November 2012 - Bring out the paddling pools

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/2124734-November-2012-Roll-call

YW I keep meaning to ask you but then forgetting... Way back when your J was first struggling with dairy intolerance you mentioned something about possibly cutting dairy in the third trimester as a method of preventing dairy intolerance. Did you ever do any research into whether that was an effective approach?

Luckily it appears everyone is still speaking to me.

I feel ok, but a bit like i am floating. I am having some eggs and hot water and lemon as we speak. My plan was to go to church but I am not sure whether humongous hangover might steam roller me half way through.

Wanda

And hi-5s VQ for it all coming the fuck together

Off to bed now

Stunt no there doesn't seem anything to suggest it makes a significant difference but there's not a lot of research out there. I was going to try but thanks to diabetes won't be! One exclusion diet plan at a time is enough for me. To be fair I'm obviously not eating chocolate, much bread etc so am cutting down dairy ignores cheese which I'm snacking on with gay abandon!.

Yes YW it would be a bit much to cut dairy while dealing with the GD at the same time. Are you going to go dairy free once the baby is born as a precautionary measure? I can't wait to find out what name you and Mr YW choose for the new sprog, I think it must be hard to come up with something as cool as J's name, especially when you have to pick a boy's name and a girl's name.

I think I would be tempted to start off bf dairy free next time - not sure I could go through the initial days of reflux hell and the ensuing damage - although it wouldn't be as bad as with F because I like to think I would spot it earlier...

Quiet on here today - anyone got any nice plans for bank holiday?

I'm taking nutramigen with me to the hospital so if baby can't initially suckle they don't get dumped full of moo juice formula! The paed reckoned that primed J's system as much as any dairy I ate. If the baby has any other midline defects (tongue tie, double crown, cleft chin, sacral dimple - J had them all!) then yes I will go dairy free from day one. Otherwise I'm going to exclude everything but dairy traces and maybe try and have a dairy treat once a week to see if they react. I have to say I'm finding eating for GD easier than dairy free. But that's because I can still have my beloved cheese . We have names picked

Not a bank holiday here. My plans for tomorrow are coaching related plus mapping out my trip into town for Tuesday. Going to see a new gastro specialist and he's based in town, not at the hospital, so need to work out how to get there as I have never actually driven into town, just round it iyswim.

I didn't know they were midline defects. LO had tongue tie (they both did), a sacral dimple and a heart murmur. I assumed she just hadn't finished cooking properly.

The hospital didn't point out the sacral dimple or the heart murmur. When I noticed the sacral dimple and googled it you imagine the panic

DH had one too actually and his caused problems later on. Also had heart issues due to a murmur in his youth, though LO's heart murmur cleared up on its own.

I assumed all these things were genetic (he had eczema and asthma too) and that LO had drawn the short straw in our genepool - DD1 has nothing except for a semi permanent cough, thanks to that arseholing pneumonia. LO also has teeth issues DH had (enamel not great quality).

PR the MWs didn't tell me about the dimple either! When I went to change his nappy the first time and saw the great big hole in his back I thought I was tripping off my tits on diamorphine still! I daren't tell the MWs in case they thought I had PP psychosis .

Not a bank holiday here either. Plan for tmrw is to survive, I run the half marathon last night and I am very very sore. Too sore actually. 21km, I must be mad. And I'm doing it again in 3 weeks time. Got a cool aeroplane/shoe shaped medal though as the run was on the runway.

Actually LO had a weird nose issue and they did point out something which they said would right itself on her genitals. As I couldn't work out what they were pointing out I have no idea if it did right itself.

I didn't realise all these things were linked in a category like that. Glad I didn't know when she was born.

Lily very well done that is a huge achievement I understand why you are sore!

Good work lily! I am very impressed.

Were we to have another I would plan to phase out dairy in the last trimester. Or at least that is whati say now!

Looking back I am not sure about p having signs and am not sure if she had full on intolerance or that she simply had a immature gut system. She does have the stork mark but that only shows itself when she is very tired.

No bank holiday here but I can't exactly complain!

We have had a lovely weekend. The kind that makes me very very grateful for my lovely and simple little family. Yesterday we made a pilgrimage to the safari park in the morning and had a curry out for linner. Today we had a lovely, lazy start cuddled up together watching cartoons then out for shopping and brekkie. Nap followed by pottering around, car washing and soup making. P demanded her bed at 6pm. I ironed for an hour and a bit and we are now watching The Bridge.

And I have more property porn for you.

How cool lily. Very impressed.

pikz I hope you manage to enjoy some alone time in between working.
Back home after a nice break away. Couple of quiet days lined up before another very mini break on Wednesday. only going away for a night but feels almost like I have to take as much stuff.

That's very interesting about the midline defects YW. All three of mine have a double crown and J had quite a bad tongue tie when he was born which made bf quite difficult at first. It's so weird to see him sticking his tongue out now he's older. Obviously J has problems with dairy, eggs and soya but looking back I'm pretty sure DS2 had a problem with dairy. His sleep was terrible, he didn't sleep through reliably until age 6. When he self-weaned off the breast at nine months (I was back at work and I think my supply wasn't up to it as there was no possibility of pumping at work back in the dark ages) he wouldn't drink formula or cow's milk at all. Now he loves cow's milk and can't get enough of it which is apparently another sign of a previous intolerance. DS1 had terrible colic and screamed for hours a day for the first few months. So I think it's safe to assume they may all have had food intolerances, especially as my DH has food allergies (prawns, scampi, lobster etc.) and I was allergic to eggs as a baby. The big question for me would be what to do if I had another and I guess going dairy and egg free from at least a couple of weeks before birth would be a must. In terms of developing allergies then you can't be allergic to something you haven't been exposed to. On that basis I don't let my kids have peanuts or prawns until they are five in the hope of preventing allergy. A lot of food for thought anyway.

I am also intrigued by the midline defect. LO seems to have had quite a selection of them as I mentioned yesterday. Am now wondering if her skin issues arent related. I also remember we had a worry when at the first scan at 7w there was no hb. I have always wondered if that was linked to the murmur and and now wondering if there is a further link.

Not worried as everything is ok now but curious. Am seeing the paed soon for her 2y check up so will ask about it. There's not much online about it. Do you have any interesting links yw ?

Interesting talk re allergys. E didn't have any midline defects whereas my DN did and she doesn't have any allergy issues, that we know of yet.

I'm thinking of trying to get E an referral to a nose ear and throat specialist. I'm getting to the end of my wits with this lump eating issue and think perhaps they can help. Nobody else I see is any use.

F had (sometimes still has) a stork mark, tongue tie and sacral dimple. Shall be watching out like a hawk when dc2 comes along!

Nights finished so a few days off now, phew.

L had tongue tie plus milk intolerance, but no allergy and his is almost 100% fine now - he has dry skin which may be a very mild intolerance but it's treatable topically so doesn't interfere with anything. He had no sacral dimple, cleft chin or double crown.

The midline defect is linked to both intolerances and allergies, and folks can have anything from one to all of the attributed characteristics - stork marks, cleft chins, sacral dimples, double crowns, tongue ties, allergies and intolerances (including eczema and asthma). It's also linked to poor uptake of folic acid in foetal development - hence its recommended to go on the super dooper (most blimmin expensive) Pregnacare which contains the most bio-available form of folic acid. So if anyone's planning a pregnancy and thinks they might be affected bear it in mind. All of these features can also develop without having the midline defect but if you or your child has more than one, it's pretty likely that it's a midline defect. In later life it increases the risk of bowel cancer and depression - so family histories of these are also another indicator.

PR I'll try to find you a link. My sister (a geneticist by training) got me onto this as she realised that with all of our and our cousins babies affected by CMPI there might be a genetic component, so she dug around online and found that there has been some very interesting research conducted on the topic.

Thanks that would be great :)

Evening.

Very busy day here.

P came face to face with a animatronic dinosaur today and it seems to have shaken her to her core. At various junctures since I picked her up at CM she has informed me "no like saurs". Please don't let her have nightmares!

Fuck. I have been really really bad at taking pregnacare this pregnancy. As in I'm averaging one tablet a week. In fact I haven't even finished the pack I first bought when I found out I was pregnant.

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I stopped taking my pregnacare at about 18 weeks because it made me throw up.

Pregnacare Max is the only one with the most readily available source of folic acid in it.