September 2006 babies

[Lysettes]

Start of our september 2006 post natal thread!

Thank you for your advice. I will make the suggestions to her and encourage her that this stage won't last forever.

Help!

I've had an eventful few days here. On Monday, DS started crying and crying and was inconsolable and we didn't know what to do with him. He just wouldn't sleep and we were exhausted. The same happened on Tuesday. Saw HV on Wednesday and she thought it might be colic so got some infacol and so far he has been much better. Then I came down with a cold on Tuesday and now I think DS has it too. Last night he sounded so congested and cloggy and has been sleeping more often that usual today and not feeding very well. We took him to DR this morning who listened to his chest and she said she thought he was fine but this afternoon he sounds really cloggy again, keeps sneezing and sleeping loads. He usually has about 30 mins breatfeeding every 3 hours but is only doing about 5 or 10 mins when I wake him up evey few hours and then that is a struggle to get him interested. I'm so worried and scared he'll lose loads of weight or get dehydrated if he carries on like this.

Myrtle - ring your GP/out of hours service/NHS direct if you have serious worries and especially if your DS goes really floppy/won't wake up at all/is having difficulty breathing. It's normal ime for them to want to eat less when they feel poorly but I've always tried to persevere and get them to have something every few hours.

If LO's nose is congested you can get a little device from boots and other similar shops that you use to suck the gunk out from their airways, alternatively filling your bathroom/shower with steam and sitting in there for a while may help ease congestion, and sterimar (a nasal spray available from chemists - you have to ask for it at the counter usually) is safe for babies.

If you're worried about dehydration then nappy checking is a good way to tell - there should be a minimum of 6 wet nappies per day.

Useful checklist here .

Myrtle- if you're worried go back to the gp or the hospitals triage nurse. Nothing is worth the risk even if you're being a fretful mother. You know your baby best.

Hoping- I also try to 'fill' DS up during the day, feeding every three hours regardless if awake or not and I did this with DD. It worked with DD and we are making progress with DS but he is only five weeks, sometimes going 3 hours/4 hours/5hours/ once or twice 6!!! It seems so bad but it does end.

Here we have had a screaming day from both DD and DS!!! Been drove mad and DD did not even sleep today so feeling very stressed!

Myrtle, I echo what everyone else is saying. F had a cold too a couple of weeks ago, and we found putting him to bed in his chair (in the cot!) helped him as it kept him a bit more upright, and the snot could kind of slide out... Poor thing, and poor you. Hope he's better tomorrow.

We've had a good day, and I've just put them both to bed on my own without many tears - even F didn't really cry while I left him to read to DS1 - he had had half his feed in the bathroom with DS1 in the bath, so that must have kept him going for 15 mins while I had Mummy time with DS1. Rewarding myself again with a Becks!! We spent the afternoon at my grandparents, and F was awake there for the first time - they took hundreds of photos, which was really lovely. He just lay on the floor kicking and gurgling away, and I felt v. proud

Pol, I hope tomorrow's better...!!

Claire- v.jealous about that becks again, here we have nothing but spirits in the acohol cupboard and could murder a glass of wine. I daren't have a vodka or gin as i'm sure i'd be tiddled as it would be my first strong alcoholic drink...

Watching whatnot to wear- oh its not the same without trinny and suzannah

I had a lovely time at my friends on Monday, thanks. Dd has been really settled for the past 5 evenings - woohoo! Last night she did her longest stretch from 7.15pm to 12.45am!! She also specialises at the moment in going straight back to sleep after her 6/7am feed and not starting the day until about 9am which is very civilised. (I'm finding it quite liberating not to be following a certain ladies book this time...)

Claire - how's your ds1?

Compo - hope the jaundice clears. great that she's feeding a lot (I think that can "flush it out"). is there any sunshine in your area? it was lovely here today. you know to stick her in the sun any time you can?

Liquid - LOL re your ds1 drinking the EBM!!

HopingCat - nothing really to add to what Claire's already said... really hope things get better for your friend.

Myrtle - that sounds tough...do contact your GP or HV if you're still worried.

Same goes Myrtle..

Well, went to be bed at 9pm last night. DH gave DS a bottle of ebm at 11 which was great...but I heard him crying waiting for the bottle to be heated etc so als my sleep was broken...grrr! However, still felt great not getting out of bed, traisping to his room & sitting in a chair willing the clock to move forward!! He then went till 3am so I've felt much better today We're going to try the same tonight too... thank heavens for my Avent pump!

Cori - have you tried giving the EBM unheated? DS will take it at room temperature with no probs and since there's a 6hr 'shelf life' I just express before I go to bed and leave it out for DH

Good luck tonight!

Wow Corinader - great result with the expressed bottle
Tassis - yes, we've ben taking dd out in the sunshine so hopefully that will help, can't believe how lovely and sunny it was yesterday.
Clairemow - great advice for Hopingcat. Great reminder for the rest of us too.
Dd fed at 7pm, 2am and 5am last night so feel like we're sort of getting there. Still feeding loads in the day and resisting sleep as well, not sure what's goig on there but she slept well in the pushchair yesterday so I guess going out lots will be the answewr - will hopefully help with the weightloss

wow what a huge amount of messages - we are a talkative lot! have just had a skim through, not a proper read yet but we all seem to be getting on really well don't we!

jake is 3 months old this weekend, and we have been advised to think about weaning from 4 months as he is growing so much and eating so much! we are doing formula feeds all through the night and if he wakes up properly he will take 160ml in one go which keeps him going for around 4-5 hours. although he's tending not to wake properly so is only taking half feeds and we're back on 2 hourly for the past few nights. he is still having real problems with wind though.....we've started using infacol probiotic drops so that should help his sore tummy.
DH keeps asking if I can cope - does anyone else get this and feel really shitty about being asked that? I kind of feel that I should be able to cope easily and if so many other women can why couldn't I and does it lok like I can't cope - is that why he keeps asking me???

sorry, long wingey post

Good Morning Everyone,

Adam was born on 2nd October at 3am weighing 8lb 4 (3.74kg)exactly 1 week late. This is after I was told by everyone that he couldn't possibly be bigger than 7lb and that I would be early!!!

Is it still ok to be on this thread, he is an october baby after all!!!!!

DP has gone back to work today, his boss called him back a week early and I'm really scared. DP has been so good with him and now hes not here.

Anyway, had him weighed yesturday and instead of losing weight he has gained and is now 8lb 13 (3.99kg) apparently I have Gold top milk

Hope everything is going well for everyone else.

Still can't believe I'm a Mummy

Hi all,

Congrats petrified

just thought i would pop on and say hello, finding it extremely hard to get on at the mo as we are having a few teething probs with lo.

She is quite clingy, been hving trouble with wind heath visitor thinks its the start of colic poor thing. Only place she will sleep is in pram if in motion or the car seat, yep she is sleeping in car seat between ourselves on a night. I also have a infection from the birth grrrr

Hope you and your cuties are all well, will be back on when things are more settled

Take care

puppy xx

great to hear from you Lysettes. My dh is the same - convinced that as I was a mess after ds that the same will happen this time but he seems to be cheered by the fact that I'm much better this time
Congratulations Petrified - of course you should stay with us
Good to hear from you too Puppy - sorry to hear about the sleeping though. hope you are managing to get some rest as that sounds really tiring for you

Hello -thanks for all your messages and advice.
After my post last night I phoned the doctor again and she referred us to paediatric unit at the hospital. They checked Edward and confirmed it was a cold and suctioned his snot out. They kept us in overnight as they wanted to observe him in case it spreads to his chest and causes bronchialitis. So far it hasn't spread and he had his snot suctioned again this morning. He fed really well in the night - I think he was trying to make up for all the missed feeds yesterday so I am much happier now but exhausted after his breast feeding marathon. On the way home we picked up a snot sucker from boots so feel a little more in control now if he gets cloggy again and can't breathe.

Lysettes- nice to hear from you! Glad your little one, or not so little now is doing well!

Myrtle- glad you sought out more advice for your little one. Glad you're all ok.

Here Ben is under his play gym grunting about, He is starting to try and coo and chat but doesn't yet understand how he does it when he does. Went out with DD on the buggy board this morning and she was a nightmare for hoping on and off! Drove me potty and so we did sainsburys and then came home. did manage to get her something in there to wear for party tomorrow that we have been invited too. Gods knows what i'll wear... feeling fat and blobbish today.

After 3 & half hours of feeding Jack has finally gone to sleep....I am at a loss to explain why tonight was so difficult. Started feeding him at 6 & after every 25 mins of so he'd be fast asleep, or so I thought only to wake screaming & only be comfoted by more food. Have tried putting my finger in but that doesn't statisfy him at all.....I also tripped up the stairs going up to him (when I thought at 7.50 that was it) & hurt my tummy..which because I'm so tired made me cry (you know how it is). DH has also driven me mad today as well....playing the martyr even more because he's so tired having done the 11pm feed again last night....men...honestly

Sorry for the rant...

Hello ladies, my name is Salma, i am 24 yrs old, and i have a wonderful baby girl called Maya she's 14 weeks old, andshe just started smiling a couple of times today for the first time.
Yaaaay!

Pol, agree about what not to wear - I just didn't believe it without T and S.. Won't be watching again. It was almost like they were reading T and S's script and they haven't changed the formula at all, which I think is a mistake. It just didn't work for me.

DS1 is still a bit off colour. I keep thinking perhaps I should take him to the doctor, but not sure what I would say - "yes, he seems ok now, but he keeps being really tired, doesn't want to eat much and is just not himself". Not much to go on. He does keep sucking his fingers and dribbling, so I just keep thinking it must be the back molars, and he isn't off colour every day. Also wonder whether he hears Fraser in the night and it disturbs him, even if it doesn't wake him up. He slept until 8.50 this morning, which is VERY unusual!!! If we hadn't had to get up with F at 7.30 we'd have had a lie in!!!

Puppy, I hope you are getting a little more rest now and LO is more settled? Thinking of you anyway.

Lysettes, blimey, 3 months! Well done - that seems like a magic milestone... It does seem a bit early to be weaning though at 4 months as Jake was premature? I don't know but I'd be a bit cautious. There are quite a few people on MN who have v. strong views on this I've noticed, who'd advise just upping his milk intake instead of weaning - it has more calories than solids, or so I've read. I did start to wean DS1 at 4 1/2 months, but he wasn't early like Jake - surely his digestive system is really only like that of a month old baby? I'd def get advice from a second opinion if I were you.

Cori, DH and I have been having a "competition" to see who's the most tired... I'm sure I win, but he thinks not... Yesterday he was working from home, which was a disaster, at one point he said it was like trying to work in Piccadilly Circus - I just said welcome to my life... Also F seems to be growth spurting (he's 6 weeks today, and I think that's normal), so he's gone back to waking twice in the night. I think it's just survival until you get more sleep! Yawn.

hi all, havent had chance to catch up with messages but hope everyone is ok. georgia is now 8lb 9oz and doing really well. She slept through from 11pm last night till 7.30 this morning which was fab! I;ve just been buying her some toys from amazon. I;ve bought one of those dream shows for her cot. Are they any good?

My ex has been causing loads of trouble to the point where we are gettin the police involved. I could do without the stress but there's nothing much I can do. Other than that I'm still feeling quite low but have managed to get out a couple of times with Georgia which has been good for both of us.

I'm finding it hard to get on the computer these days so am losing track of the posts. Where does time go??? [Grin]

Mandaz- sooooo of your peaceful night and sleep!!! DD had a light show- a gloworm one and still has it on her cotbed! She is 2! We brought one for DS and we were given one as a gift too, they both love them and I know they'll be squabbles over the new ones when they go onto DS's cot.

Being drove insane by DP AGAIN!!! DS was unsettled last night and was up everyhour with him grunting about and crying with wind and farting like a trooper... DP was ignoring it all. When I got back into bed each time he just muttered about how unsettled he was Also my sister was back from her hols yesterday and hadn't spoke to her for ages and so wanted to talk to her and guess what DP wouldn't even feed B while I was on the phone So managed to feed B and talk to her but was cross with it. He did no night feeds and hasn't fed him since Wed, I think... Went to a friends sons fourth birthday today (the one who has had three miscarriges- if you remember) and her hubbie said how do you cope with B in the night and DD in the day!!! He hit the nail on the head and he then said oh I suppose DP has to help this time alot... I didn't say anything. Which said it all. DP has now gone out too round hids brothers (not WB) and so left in to do B all on my own again. Really fed up with it.... I have had enough of him not helping and generally wanting to just laze about- he shouldn't of had children if he wanted an easy life!

poor you Pol26, so sorry dp is still being so unhelpful. Do you think it's worth getting someone to babysit for a couple of hours (I think you're ff?) and going out with him on his own and laying down the law? Otherwise I really don't see how you can go on unless perhaps he would agreee to some kind of relationship counselling so you can air your grievances?
Mandaz - wow, what a great night!! How old is your lo again?! We had quite a oodnight after a crapy day of feeding, snozzing and no proper sleeping. She went down at 7pm after exhausting herself during the day, then fed at 12am and 4.30am. I was wondering if we should be putting her upstairs for daytime naps as she didn't seem to be able to sleep in her bouncy chair yesterday. Does anyone else do that?

wow Lysettes, I can't believe Jake is 3 months already!

petrified - caongratualtions on the birth of Adam. how did you get on on your own on Friday?

puppy - really hope your infection clears and that your dd's colic settles soon.

myrtle - how's Edward doing?

Pol - we find the buggy board incredibly difficult to steer...ds loves using it, but we keep "forgetting" to take it with us!

claire - how's your ds1?

compo - 7pm. 12am and 4.30am is very like what Lucy's doing at the moment. I keep wondering about lifting her at 10ish like we did with ds, but will give it another week I think. We often put her in her crib upstairs for her daytime sleeps, depends what's going on. She's sleeping beside me in her pram at the moment.

Can't believe Lucy is a month old today. It's flying by! She is cuter by the day and we reckon she's smiling! Very lovely. I left her in creche at church for the first time today and felt quite lost without her!

I'm really enjoying being a family of 4 - we went for a lovley walk yesterday with the pram and ds on his bike.

Dh, ds and dd are all asleep...for once I really don't feel up for going for a rest...

Hi everyone - so shattered today! had my first migraine on Friday night and had the 'hangover' part of it yesterday and still felt it today - must be lack of sleep making the recovery period twice as long, but at least the actual pain part was only for an evening. Alex is still being a dream though - so happy (or dare I say contented... ) compared to DS1 at this age. I still can't believe the difference between the two of them, both in terms of looks and temperament - hard to believe they're from the same parents!

Pol - at your DP again - perhaps he needs to be given a dictionary so he can look up the word 'partner'!!!

Compo - we've been putting Alex in our room in his carrycot for all of his daytime naps since we got home from the hospital, partly for his protection as well as the peace and quiet as DS1 is very keen on stroking him - thinks he's some sort of pet

Mandaz - sorry to hear your ex is being a pain in the a*se again, hope the police can help. Glad to hear how well Georgia is doing and that you're getting sleep. Re baby toys like light shows/mobiles etc - I'm not sure how much of an impact they have when they're very little but they seem to grow in and out of them periodically - at the moment DS1 is back to his safari mobile and music boxes, I'm sure next month it'll be something else we've got out for the new one - and he seems to get as much enjoyment from them now as ever.

Lysettes - can't bellieve how old Jake is already! I'm unsure though about the weaning too, I thought with prem babies you had to use their 'adjusted' age to compensate a bit? Can you get a second opinion at all just to be sure?

Clairemow - DS1 has those phases where he sleeps longer into the morning quite a lot, if you get to like it we found we could keep it going by shaving half an hour off the end of the lunch nap! - just a shame it doesn't fit in with when we need to get up for work.

Tassis - well done for braving the congregation, I'm going in for my first attempt next week...

hi all,

Pol, re your situation with DP etc. You do put up with a lot I think. I get arsey if DH hasn't seen that the washing machine needs emptying, or the dishes need washing - I can't imagine how cross I'd be in your shoes. I think Compo has some good ideas in her post.

Compo, I've been putting F upstairs for daytime naps from day 1 home. Not always, but if we're at home that's where he goes! Otherwise DS wants to wake him up all the time, or inspect his nappy to see if he's done a poo.. If we're out he sleeps in the pram, or in his car seat, and he seems able to pretty much sleep through just about anything, including 5 toddlers charging about on Friday afternoon. Didn't even stir!!

Liquid, sorry to hear about the migraine. Hope you're completely recovered now?

Mandaz, what a nightmare re. your ex. But great news about Georgia's sleeping!! That's brilliant!

Fraser slept last night from 11 to 3.30, but was only awake for 10 mins, so he woke again at about 5.30, but again only for about 15 mins. So not too bad. We had visitors this weekend and their two children (very easy guests!), so were back in with F, and I went to him as soon as he made any noise for fear of everyone getting woken up, so he probably wasn't really awake each time. I hope the 3.30 waking means teh 6 week growth spurt might have finished... Fingers crossed!!!

DS1 has been fine this afternoon, but really grotty this morning. I'm now sure it's teeth, he had 3 fingers in his mouth all morning and kept saying his mouth hurt... Calpol again...

Had tea tonight in Pizza Express - how lovely not to cook?! And seeing as we had 3 toddlers and a tiny baby, we got served dead quick!!