September 2006 babies

[Lysettes]

Start of our september 2006 post natal thread!

hey compo. Don't worry about DD using you as a human dummy - bet you she finds her thumb before you stop...

Hey everyone- So many posts now i'm too busy to check reg!

Claire- very of your all nighter (nearly) We have managed 7 hours once, so I know he can do it! And usually (like last night) goes from 11pm feed until 5am... but he does protest and usually is in bed with me at 2/3am... which is driving me mad but if it means we have sleep...

The house hunting is just hopless!!! The one we liked was sstc the day we went to view, other one we saw the area was just awful!!! And then we went back to the one which needed work doing to it and that is also sstc but you can gazzump them as it is a repo and so we could potentially have it done to us if we went for it. So that one is no longer an option as 1, I couldn't do it to who ever thinks they have brought it and 2, it could happen to us and then we would have no where to live and lost money through surveys, solicitors fees etc... DP and I are frantically looking for somewhere as we want to move for Jan 4th- which is leaving it v.late although we have a mortgage agreed in priciple all ready to go, but still there is christmas etc... inbetween. Desperate to find somewhere but anywhere decent is sold Why can't things be simple???

May try the boiled water during a night feed- let me know how it goes for those who are trying it/ think of it as i'm so knackered being up with him in the night and DD in the day!

Will try and put some more piccies on our yahoo thingie tonight.

Hi all - Jameson's now 11 lbs 12 oz and all looks well. Received three immunizations today: DTP, Hib, & pneumococcal. I think the worst was that look of betrayal.

Dr. said he's now able to go nearly 12 hours without food at night. In fact, suggested we start - in next few days - feeding him at 7 or 8pm, then putting him to bed for the night - cutting out both his 11pm and 3am feedings at the same time. Gave us a huge pamphlet on how to do this. Basically it's controlled crying.

Said might take 1-2 weeks to work, and he recommends putting baby in separate room with white noisemaker so he won't wake the entire house. Also says not to give him anything in bottle at night, i.e. don't make it worth his while to wake up. Don't take him out of crib or hold him. Soothe him every 10 or so minutes. Says we all go through light-to-heavy sleep cycles at night and J. needs to learn to soothe himself back into a deep sleep cycle when he wakes up.

Because J. puts himself to sleep without needing comforting during day & can be put awake into crib at night and drift off noiselessly ... and mostly b/c Dr. says it's time ... we're going to do this once we work out logistics.

wow marls good luck!

jacob only gained 1 oz last week - so much for my growth suprt suggestion as to the ridiculous night waking and huge feedings!

we are now going 6pm or thereabouts after bathtime until around 2/3am, then till 6ish, when more often than not he won't settle so he comes in with us (very bad I know!) - it's getting better and today he fed 530am, 830, 1230, then 230, 5pm then after bath at 645 - so fingers crossed we have a good night.....

last lot of jabs last monday - three injections! poor little man stuck his lower lip out and howled at me - just broke my heart , but a few cuddles and he was ok!

we are using gripe water for the wind, whoever it was that was asking, and we give it in a syringe (half a dose at night feeds only) so if DH does do a feed then jacob definitely burps properly, otherwise it never happens....

had a sneaky glass of wine tonight

Crikey Marls, that sounds quite drastic? I don't think I could do it... in fact, know I couldn't. I'd rather have a few more weeks of getting up once a night than hours of crying for a few days. Let us know how it goes...

Pol, what a shame about the houses - it sounds like you're having a nightmare.

Lysettes, no about the sneaky glass of wine - it's fine! I've been known to have a couple...

Thanks Lysettes!

Claire - I know; he seemed much more gung-ho than the Dr. in Houston about DS1. Dr. in Houston had one child whome she'd adopted ... this Dr. has done this with all 3 of his own children ... Did say to be flexible though, and that although we could do it now, could also wait - but to do it somewhere between month 2 & 6 if baby's not doing it on his own by then. Said if you wait too late it'll be that much harder. Had a talk with DH and we're going to drop one feeding at a time. The 3am feeding first ... and then 11 pm. We'll see how it goes.

thanks for your help re the medicine, lysettes. will try again today!

Think you're right to do it a bit more gently Marls - they're only 10 weeks and under after all! My health visitor was amazed when I said DS1 slept through from 11 pm at 9 weeks on breastmilk, and from 7pm at 13 weeks. Said it was usual to still be having 2 wakings at this age. So I guess I'm lucky to be having only one - 3.40 this morning, so no weird coincidences of sleeping through at the same age as DS1... Shame! SWMNBN doesn't recommend you drop the late feed until the baby is on solids, as they may start waking earlier again in the morning (although DS1 had no trouble...).

Going to try and get a swim in today. It's a bit difficult getting any exercise in with two of them isn't it?!

time for a winge I'm afraid!!!!

We had been doing really well with jacob sleeping from around 730 till 2/3 but DH is intent on going into his room when he gets home from work (around 10, so the worst time for jacob to wake up as he then thinks he can have a top up feed), and talking to him, etc etc etc. I know he needs to spend time with him and he doesn't get to see jacob very much as he works long hours, but last night really took the biscuit.

Jacob had been snuffling on and off and I had left him to re-settle himself, which had worked. I told DH when he got in to be very very quiet as Jacob would probably wake up, and if he is on his own, he'll go back to sleep, but if someone else is there he will wake up.... you can guess what is coming next!!! We finally got him back to sleep at 1130 [very tired mummy emoticon] and DH then wanted to check he was ok

do they just not understand????????

oh Lysettes, how annoying!! Can't he just go in and have a look - why does he need to talk and play? Sounds like you'll have to have a stern word with DH... We had this discussion with DS1 - if DH is home late from work, he just doesn't get to see them that day - sad for DH but it's so important that the LOs get their sleep, and learn how to sleep independently.

Or maybe if DH did actually do a feed when he gets in, Jacob might then sleep longer in the night and gradually go from 10 to 7?

well the good news is ds2 slept til 6.30am this morning, so no colled boiled water required.
bad news i am having MAJOR problems with ds1. since sunday, he has got hysterical at bed time and nap time almost as if he has a fear of his room. i have started a thread about it as i am at my wits end and he is so tired. i can only relate it to bonfire night, as that's when it started. I am having to give him a dose of medised as it's the only way he will sleep, and at the moment i am having to let him fall asleep downstairs and then transfer him to his room.

Poor you, and poor DS1 - he must be knackered! does he sleep in the total dark? Would it help him if you got a couple of little plug in night-lights? DS1 was scared of the dark a while ago, and these sorted it out - they are his "special lights that keep him safe all night"... He has them on whether it's day or night and he's going to sleep.

Marls - I agree that your docs advice sounds drastic! You must do as you see fit....how old is jameson? Also with you on the 'look of betrayal' after jabs. I felt terrible! .

Lysettes - totally sympathise re: dh ... mine had to have a very stern talking to a couple of weeks ago. even dd told him off!! it is sooooo irritating isn't it? Mine is better now - good luck with yours!. Don't fret about the glass of wine, I have one every night. . I believe it's good for the soul. . What happened re: starting new thread?

mabel - i hope you have a better nite tonite. Could you assign a special teddy to 'stand guard' over him as he sleeps? Just an idea..

clairmow - my ds has been sleeping around 9 -9.5 hrs at nite (usually 9:30pm - 6:30am ish)since 8 weeks ~(he's 9 wks today) and is exclusively bf. Had him weighed today and he is exactly 13lbs - maybe the baby's weight has an influence on night feeding???? I shall look forward to 13 wks!

QUESTION ds been feeding 2 hourly all day and non stop for abt 3 hrs now - another growth spurt?????????? He seems very cranky too - is that normal? He has just crashed out in my arms, bless...x

Hi everyone! Have finally managed to get on the computer but have some serious catching up to do . Alexander has such wind problems that mean he is so tired but needs to feed but can't keep it down or rest properly in between. He also had a cold which made him even worse re sleep. DH is being more helpful now esp on the night feeds because I had a bit of a 'melt down'. As a result am no longer trying to BF and in spite of my strong feelings of wanting to carry on I do feel emotionally and physically much better - I guess you never can tell until you try these things!

So far we are on a roughly 3hrly routine, dream feeding at 10-11pm and having to still feed at 2 or 3 and 5 or 6am - so sleep deprivation is still an issue! He just doesn't seem to store enough energy to tide him through, in spite of polishing off at least 5floz of formula at a hit. He will be 8 weeks on Sunday and must weigh around 11lb already.... Next week we are registering him and getting his first shots - arrghh!

Hugs to all and I'll go back and read the posts - amazing how different we all do this parenting lark!

Marls - I prefer your 'toned down' version of sorting out the night times than your docs - let us know how it goes!

For those of you that gove gripe water - do you give it before or after feeds?

I'm thinking though that really it isn't the burping that's the problem, more the sucking, it's like he can't get his mouth to mould to the teat/breast - even cnsidering trying one of those super pricey haberman bottles. Now (as a consequence of this bl*^dy thrush!!!) I'm doing mainly EBM and one formula I can see he's only taking about 3-4oz each feed where he really should be having about 5oz - and has very occasionally so I know he can. It's so frustrating, I just feel if I caould get him eting properly in the day we'd be getting better nights.

Woodelf - before we lost the plot with the feeding thing we had just started a lslights change in our Alex's routine where the 10pm dreamfeed became an awake time until 11.15pm when he got a top up from the 10pm feed then straight to bed - when we did this he went from waking at 3am and 5.30am to just 3.30-4am. might be worth a go?

Lysettes - Don't worry too much about your DH, while it comes quite naturally to most mums one of the hardest things for these fellas to learn is that as a parent you have to put your child's needs before your own - he'll get there. Though, you might speed the process by saying that if he disturbs Jake then it's his job to settle him too without your help - which, if he does then perhaps ask yourself where's the harm? After all, they're both getting quality time they wouldn't have otherwise.

Woodelf - Edward is the same, he has about a 10pm feed then 2:30amish then about 5am.
He has also come down with another cold but neither me or DH has a cold. He is all snuffly and was sick all over himself and his car seat this morning and has only taken a few small feeds during the rest of the day. He seems so exhausted and has just slept most of today. I can't believe he has got another cold so soon after the last one! I expressed this morning as I was engorged and leaking, but before bed tonight he had 3 feeds lasting about 10 mintues each so I feel a little better that he has had something poor thing.

hi everyone - wil lstart new thread today - promise!

had words with dh and suggested that less talking and playing and more looking would be good - also to look at him through the bars of the cot rather than over the top as you still can se but if ds wakes, he doesn't notice you there!
dh can't settle him as he panics if he doesn't go to sleep straight away or starts wimpering at all! nice idea though thanks!

we are back on the nutriprem formula for his night feeds so he keeps putting on weight - the flip side is that we are back on 1am wakes and then 330 then 630 this morning! and we have tried feed at 10 but he still wakes hungry at 1! little monkey

have a great weekend everyone

o'h and we give gripe water before the feeds - seems to work although as he's getting a bit older we aren't needing to give it so much

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