September 2006 babies

[Lysettes]

Start of our september 2006 post natal thread!

is anyone watching the 'live birth' on channel 5 tonight?
I am intrigued beause it's coming from the hospital where i had Freddie.
Not sure how they can know when she's going to give birth though??

Liquid, don't worry about infacol - my FIL is a Biochemist, and he explained to me that it keeps sterile because of one of the ingredients (can't remember which), and it also does not get absorbed by their systems at all, just passes through and out again. So I have no qualms whatsoever about using gallons of the stuff. And it can only be good if it makes Alex comfortable.

live birth, no thanks!!! only just forgetting my own, let alone watching someone else's!!!

Hey ladies...

Well the DP helping was short lived and was supposed to be going out today with Ben and DD was supposed to be staying with DP. I get up with Ben at 7am and then get him ready, feed him etc. DP gets up and doesn't get DD who is moaning now as she gets up between 7:30/8am, so I get her up and give her breakfast etc... manage to nip in a shower as I take Ben with me as DP not watching them. Anyhow, to ct it short I ask him to take DD upstairs when he has a shower so I can leave with Ben without upsetting her as I know she will be jealous and want to come. He shouts at me telling me that I can't tell him what to do! I finally snapped and told him that was it, I can't carry on anymore. He doesn't respect me or help me at all and after all it's not just me he's helping its his kids too. He tells me he HAS helped he fed him yesterday which I agreed was nice but it was one feed out of god knows how many!!! He went on, 'oh, i'm never right, you know it all, I do nothing etc...' and I stood there in tears He said he was fed up of being nagged, he's tired (he doesn't know the meaning!!!) and when he comes in from work he wants a rest not to have stuff to do!!! I said fine and said I wouldn't go out then and he wouldn't have to do anything other than pack a bag and go to his bloody mothers. Then he said 'sorry' which by now I really think it's fell on deaf ears. He begged me to go and not to make him leave which I said ok to and to see how we go. Although I really am fed up of it all, i've done it all on my own for nearly five weeks now so what difference would it be? Plus DD wouldn't be shouted at by him all the time for the slightest thing.
Came back and he had brought a bunch of lilies for me and had chopped up stuff to make a rissotto tonight. And call me a bitch but a little all too late. Seething inside but having to bite my tongue. Would much prefer him to help than buy me flowers and make a nice tea. Am I being really really ungrateful???

Pol - you are not being ungrateful at all - I'm afraid if your DP wanted to come in from work and sit down and have a rest - then he shouldn't have had kids!!!! Excuse me if I'm speaking out of turn, but he needs to live in the real world, you aren't getting any rest from it all day, and he needs to recognise that!

Claire - I didn't watch the live birth - as you saythings are still a little 'raw' - besides I never liked watching them at ante-natal classes, so I'm ceratinly not going to watch it when I've just been through it!

hv has been this morning for the 1st time. Fred weighs 11lb 8oz and he's only 3 weeks! must be doing something right! he managed a 6 hour stretch last night from 10.30pm til 4.30am, which was bliss.

6 hour stretch??!!!! HOW ENVIOUS!!!!! HV coming tm to weigh Jack...from the amount he has been guzzling I'm sure he must have put on at least a lb...well that's what he feels like anyhow!! Do you know if they have a 3 week growth spurt? He's feeding constantly at the moment & last night was every two hours when he was going every 3 sometimes 3 & half...so today am feeling extremley wacked!

Pol, what planet is your DP on?? Christ, welcome to my life you should have printed on your forehead!!!!! Honestly......

Mabel - 6 hours - wow, lucky you!

Cori - I definately read that they have a 3 week growth sprut. We had a ropey weekend with Lucy and I was blaming that!

Pol - sorry your DP is being so hopeless and insensitive.

Better night for us last night - 7pm, midnight, 3.30am and 7am. Settled very quickly at midnight and 3.30am. I reluctantly gave up on the swaddle last night. Ds had loved being swaddled and we did it until there was a heatwave when he was 4 months and I worried he'd overheat! Lucy fights it and gets so worked up about it and then eventually gets out of it and lies there possibly getting cold with no covers on! So we looked out the sleeping bag. Cute!

Thanks for the reassurance about infacol Clairemow, I'll tell my mum next time she's here!

Pol - not ungrateful at all, you need long-term effort and help, not just the occasional bunch of flowers (which should come from time to time anyway, not just after arguments IMO!). Lets hope you gave him a wake up call and he pulls his socks up. Sometimes it's better I think to have no help than half hearted help so maybe sending him away isn't such a bad idea if it makes a point (and then he comes back and everthings good again of course!).

Our HV came this morning too, I'm so pleased to have the same lady again, she's so nice but also she knows what she's doing. I've read some awful tales of bad HVs, I consider myself and the boys very lucky! We did feeds last night at 10.30pm, 2am, 5am and then 7.30am so he's fitting the 'routine' quite well at present - just need to keep it up! Hopefully we can drop one of the night feeds next week too as he's hardly having anything at the second one now. We're having such a 'happy' day today as well and I'm sure it's thanks to the infacol, he's just so much more settled - hope it continues!

2b0b - not seen you on here for a bit but did notice one of your other threads - hope things are getting better for you.

hi all,

Pol, I agree with the others - DP is being insensitive, and needs to experience a day and night of being you for a wake up call.

Liquid, sounds like Alex is doing well - funnily enough F fed at 2, 5.30 and 7.30 last night, so same as you - snap! Only we're 3 weeks older..!! Frustrating since the night before, he went from 10.30 to 4.30. Why does it vary so much??

How jealous am I of six hours!!!!!!! Ben did manage 4 hours last night though but has done six hours twice but at weird times - 7:30-1:30am and jobs haven't all been done by 7:30pm so I had missed out on 'good' sleep then. We did four hours last night though so I had a little bit more sleep and feel better for it.

Things with DP aren't great as you can imagine. DD has sensed the atmosphere and is clinging to me and DP is trying to make her want to be with him and play with her, which not sure if it's him helping or trying to prove he is wanted after yesterday me telling him we were all fine without him as I had been doing it all. I will give him the benefit of the doubt but tonight will be the acid test when he comes in from work and we'll see if he helps or just flops in the chair. Usually his mum rings (at the most inconvienant time- 6:30pm) when everyone is getting ready for bed and he'll sit chatting to her for an hour while I do the pair of them, maybe tonight will be different and he will help... [fingers crossed emoticon]

Pol, why don't you answer the phone when it rings and politely say that it isn't a convenient time as you are both bathing the children and reading them stories, and DP is enjoying helping you, so could she please ring back in an hour and a half. Then put the phone down and the answer machine on, and if possible, turn off the ringer, so you can't tell if it rings again.

Great idea Clairemow - hope your dp is more helpful tonight Pol26
Okay night last night, I fed dd at around 8pmish, dh topped her up at midnight and then I fed her at 3.30am. First day today with the 2 of them on my own so I took them into town and met dh for lunch - then they both fell asleep on the way home and are in the double pushchair in the garden which is why I'm on here

Glad your first day alone is going well Compo- I know how paniced I was intially thinking how will I cope with two! We have our moments but we are generally ok.

Claire- have decided to switch ringer off already... that way I can plead igonrance to it being switched off- 'I did it when both were asleep' and DP has no excuse for not helping tonight,Great idea!!! Thankyou!

compo, sent package today by recorded - so you'll have to be in to sign!....

Pol, hope all goes well - stick to your guns!! Why not try going to bed early incase Ben does another stint to 1.30? Jack has gone down at 6 tonight which going by his recent pattern means he'll feed probably at 9ish so maybe I'll manage to stay awake for it then head to bed?! Gosh, I hate this time of day.....MIL took him for a walk this afternoon so I could sleep....trouble is I couldn't. I lay in bed willing myself to sleep & just got hugely frustrated that I couldn't so feel like that was an opportunity wasted...

Good one Pol!!! Aren't we crafty!!!!

Well done on your first day Compo - glad to hear it wasn't too stressful, and hope you got a good sleep out of them both! I managed to have them both in bed today for half an hour - just enough time to eat something.

F just gone down, hopefully for the evening. Having some trouble at this evening feed - he gets really het up and can't seem to latch on properly. Think I have a bit of over active letdown on my left side (esp after having to use it a lot last week to fight off the mastitis...), and it always seems to be that one we're onto at bedtime - maybe when he's tired he just can't cope with the volume. He keeps pulling his head off and screaming, while I spray him all over with milk and end up having to change all his clothes. It's a bit distressing for both of us. Tonight I ended up feeding him lying down and that seemed to work better. Maybe the lack of gravity helped as the milk was coming out sideways rather than downwards into his mouth. I keep trying to plan it so that he's drinking from the right at bedtime, but it doesn't seem to work out as I can't accurately predict when he'll feed during the day.

Sorry to go on about it.

So, dd is down...has been for 20 mins...do I nip out for hour at good friends house or stay in and go to bed early??

What if she wakes? Do I risk it and come home if necessary or lift her and take her with me?

Very tired so complete inability to decide what I want to do...

Hi WW (hoped someone would reply in time...)

Yes, dh is actually in and I'm thinking of nipping out to a former flatmates.

The sensible part of me thinks I should go to bed as I'm VERY tired.

dh is on the phone so need to wait for him to get off to leave instructions (like it's difficult...)

nice day?

ok, i'm going...

goodnight all

hope the little ones sleep well

Coriander - they just arrived Thanks so much. let me know if you need any boy's stuff won't you?
Brilliant night last night. Dh gave dd a top up feed at 2am I think and she slept through til almost 7am So I had lots of sleep. Ds is being okay moslty with dd except if I leave the room he takes her dummy away or her blanket. Find myself getting cross with him loads so I'm trying to calm it down a bit as feel like all i do is shout at him

hey Compo, great night!! Bet you feel like a million dollars this morning (ok, maybe half a milllion!). You got a whole night's sleep! Hurrah for your dh! You know I bet that F would wake up twice last night after his mammoth 4.30 am marathon the night before - well, he did - 2.20 and then 6. I hate the 6 am one..., esp as us moving around then usually wakes up DS1 as well... DH brought him in bed and put him on his chest, and he went back to sleep, thank goodness. Which to me proves he didn't really need the feed then....!!!

My DS1 is still a bit under the weather. he's gone to bed again now without eating lunch, and his eyes look really tired. I am wondering whether he is being woken in the night by DS2, but not complaining at the time, just being shattered, like me and DH! He wanted medicine again. I keep thinking he's going to grow some chickenpox spots any time now as he's been off colour for about a week. Could just be the last molar teeth though, as he's really dribbly and snotty.

Anyway, the upside of him going to bed now is they are both in bed and asleep. I might even get an hour to myself to watch Loose Women!!!

Tassis, I hope you had a lovely time out last night with your friend? You deserved it! I went out with my post natal group from last time last Weds night, and it was just what I needed - although I was home by 10.30 feeling knackered, it meant a break for the evening. Left DH with a bottle of expressed milk just in case, but everything was totally fine.

Tassis- did you have a great night???

Compo- well done on the sleeping front!!!

Claire- DD was like that two weeks ago I think it was a combination of a rotten cold and her teeth.

Well B slept well last night compared to other ones, I woke him and fed him at 10:30pm, then he woke at 3:10am then 7:10am... Yeah!!! maybe the nights thing is settling now just had me worried as he has taken much longer than DD to get the hang of it!

Can't moan about DP, hasn't done a night feed but fingers crossed he did the bottles last night and he fed B while I put DD to bed. Yeah!!!