The 9th Broadly Gemini Bus - the one with first birthdays!

[Lorelei353]

Ooh Inge to start a new thread. So if the last one was the one where they don't sleep, then they'll start to sleep now, yes?

I go back to work next Weds Kitty. DS started properly today. Full day today, tomorrow and Friday. I've just done a lovely yoga class and am using the next few days to have lunches, get hair cut etc. miss DS though.

pear definitely want to hear all TTC details! I'm beginning to accept that I will do it all again but not yet!

Where has my lovely sleeper gone? woke at 1 and now 3.30. In fact every night at 3.30/4 at the moment and can take up to 2 hours to go back to sleep. Waaaahhh!

Lor ~ can you imagine having a newborn on top of that? I just don't know how people do it!! I know people keep saying you just DO IT but seriously?! I feel for you. Sleep depravation never gets easier in my eyes

Pear that's one of the reasons dh aren't sure if we'll have another one. Just don't know if we can bear going back to the start again!

dh and I aren't sure I mean.

When Calf was this age I was nearly 8 months pregnant. It was around this age that I first made him walk a mile. It took us an hour but he managed it! No way would Runt do that. We can't walk for 1 minute holding hands without him collapsing to the floor & screaming because I won't let him wander by himself!

I think Runt is teething but can't find any evidence of imminent teeth. He woke up crying at 4ish. Brought him in with me & dozed while trying to stop him climbing off the bed. No idea what time he went back to his cot - I poked DH until he put him back!

We're visiting the local pre-school tomorrow. Hopefully I'll either love it or be reminded why I was so determined not to send him!

Today they're busy watching Minibeast Adventure on CBeebies autocorrected to cheesiest. It's creepy but less disturbing to learn about snails than pick bits of one out of Runt's mouth!

Teething just blows chunks. It's a good thing that Mother Nature makes it easy for us to forget these hellish nights once they grow out of them and makes us think babies are cute and that we want more. Phooey!

The thing I'm battling with is that I do want another, but I don't want them to be too far apart in age or I'm just going to be in nappy/breastfeeding/teething hell again after the blissful sleeping-through-the-night stage has finally been reached and I'm not looking forward to that. I'd rather just DO IT as pear put it rather than get another taste of the good life, iykwim. I guess we will see in March if I get an interview for nursing graduate school... if not then I'm thinking it may be TTC for #4 time now to just convince DH . I've already starting thinking up names and throwing them at him and he's taking the bait (kinda). We'll see .

Ew agnu! Have you actually pulled a snail out of his mouth? M is really, really good at throwing herself on the ground/floor/pavement/cement with absolutely no regard of her head in the process. She's a screamer too. Never had one be so LOUD before! Geesh!

I'm not sure of the details bring but DH said he'd been "eating snails" in the garden on Saturday. I didn't inquire any further, in fact, I told him to stop talking! I can't stand looking at snails, let alone picturing half chewed ones hanging out of my baby's mouth! Bleugh!

I think everyone should get pregnant. Except me because I can't cope with the 2 I have already! I will have to stop talking to you all though. It makes me sad to think that DH may keep refusing to have anymore & I'm going through a phase where I really struggle knowing other people are pregnant or have newborns. I want a soft snuggly one too! It's making me realise how much I do want a girl. I don't want to deal with the teenage years but it bothers me to think that if/when I have grandchildren I'll always be "the MIL" when it comes to the pregnancy. Once I'm past child-bearing age, I want someone I can gestate vicariously through!

DS slept through the night last night. Hallelujah! I'm glad actually because today's his first day in the toddler room and I think his napping might be a bit disrupted there as it'll be different - no cosy cots to go down in, just everyone lying on mats on the floor together. Might be a bit of an adjustment.

Agnu everyone should not get pregnant

Ha ha I was pretty pregnant this time too, what I will say though is that after 12wks I never had one bad night with tiger, no teething no illness she just was a sleeper always like 13hours so I never felt like how can I do this I was like this is easy lol in fairness kittens not bad, a bad night to me is waking up at all, I dont have to rock her or anything the worst I have to do is get up and give her a quick cuddle and put her down again although we had a few nights where she seemed to be up 5/6 times a night crying with those dam molars, tiger spoiled me!!!
Her sleeping went down hill when we potty trained her at 2 and I think the consciousness of weeing woke her because shed been tought to register it even though she had a nappy at night, that and she was at that point in her own bed she an get out of!!
I'd still do it all again though

It's annoying that there is no virtual slap symbol on here! Just Joking I'm sure you get enough RL evils for having good sleeper/sleepers and eaters kitty

Woop woop Lor!! Let us know how he got on. I bet he adjusted better then you expect!

My friend is expecting DC2 any day now. I'm about to post her a pressie so she has something to cheer on her waiting days. I remember how tiresome the last few days are and the impatience and last minute terror that kicks in...well for me anyway She brought me tulips close to my Dd and that really cheered me up. Friends are so important at this time in life aren't they.

TTC news. Cycle day 18 and my CBFM finally moved up a bar so I'm about to hatch...woop woop Can't get too excited though as I'm not TTC this month...remember. Still, good to know and tempting none the less

Pre-school visit was surprisingly good! There were only maybe 2 dozen children there across 2 rooms & they had another 2 rooms that they'd shut up for the session because they were quiet. They won't be winning any awards for having a super modern or snazzy environment but it's sweet & quite homely. Nothing like any of the nurseries I've been in! The lady who showed us around was nice, although she didn't actually stop talking in a faintly patronising tone the entire time! Both boys adored it! We even left Calf in what will be his room while we went to check out the rooms for the older ones & had to drag him away. The lady kept joking about how we have 'problems' with his confidence as if she'd never come across a child who was happy to be left like that. Made me even more aware of his differences. We mentioned a few of his concerning behaviours as a sowing seeds tactic but have decided we want them to get to know him before we raise any issues. All in all, fairly positive so he'll be starting in January for 2 mornings & one afternoon a week! ---- Also, we saw one of our friend's children there who's a few weeks younger than Calf & one of the teenagers from church who, I assume, is doing a placement/training there!

pear you might as well give it a go... It's obviously going to take a few months so you can cross one of those months off when you don't really want it to happen anyway... Love the present for your friend - that's such a sweet idea! I've got a friend due in Jan so I'll steal the idea for her!

Lor how are you feeling about him moving up now? The change to a no-sides nap is definitely interesting... We took the sides off Calf's bed a year ago but it's only been a few weeks since we put him into a proper height single bed that he's started staying in it. No way would he be persuaded just to lie down on a mat & stay there! I guess they'll be used to that & be quite good at encouraging them to stay put.

Pear I get woken up atleast once every night these days or atleast 5 times a week. I'm a light sleeper anyway and kitten usually has a little moan or tiger needs the toilet or has a bad dream or just try's to sneak in bed I have to be up for work at 5:50 anyway so although I know I dont have it terrible I'm not sniggering at everyone don't worry there were a few months though where a little smug though
Agnu that sounds promising, glad you weren't put off, just to ease your mind I've found that children who have never had childminders / been to nursery are quite happy to be left. I've put it down to the fact that as there parents havnt dropped them off somewhere for a long period they are not worried/ have no fear of abandonment. The test will be when he starts and he realises it's regular, it's great if he's happy and stays that way. Believe me there's no joy going off to work with your child prised off you screaming no mummy no don't leave me

He's been left for an hour every Sunday since he was 4 months old pear, plus when we went away for a week he went to the children's sessions every morning with people he'd never met before. Runt grizzled a little each day during the sessions, Calf wandered off as soon as we arrived every day & was led out by his hand at the end without so much as looking at who's taking him! He's genuinely never been concerned about whether we're in the room or not, or even if we're the one's taking him out again. It's always scared me - he'd happily go with a complete stranger. There's 'happy to be left' & there's 'oblivious'!

Kitty ~ I hope you know I was only pulling your leg

I do pear

Sorry I didn't update last night. Had a vicious migraine. At my desk in work in the afternoon and the aura started. Total misery. Had to wait for 30 mins in work for the aura to pass and then dash home to bed before the migraine kicked in. Still feel wobbly today.

DS got on great yesterday. He slept for an hour and 35 minutes which is as good as he ever sleeps at nursery (and sometimes at home). He was in great form last night, if a bit tired which he always is after nursery.

This morning actually I ran into someone I used to meet at our local clinic's post-natal group/baby massage and down the library for baby songs. I'd ran into her at the nursery open day when I'd signed up DS and knew she'd signed her DD up too but she quit her job and was deferring her DD's place. I'd figured she wasn't coming now but she started last week. She mentioned that she'd been doing settling in sessions recently so was in the nursery for a few hours over three days. She said my DS is so happy there - she couldn't believe it - and so affectionate with everyone, which I knew. Was nice to hear her say she'd seen him be really happy when I'm not around though.

Welcome back frus! I was just going to type out about how I'd been missing your posts :)

Hmm, not sure how long that will take. Are there any other cuddling/bonding things that you could introduce to help replace the previous soothing that came with feeds? Bottle with water or dummy or something like that? I wish I had the answer. This part is tough. I think M will want to continue bf'ing until she's 10 if I let her. She's still extremely into having a feed in the morning, one when she gets back from nursery, and one before bed. Am I the last one still whipping the girls out on our thread then ??

So sorry to hear about the migraine Lor Hope that you are feeling better soon! Also great to hear that your LO is having fun at nursery! Such a massive relief when you know they are having a good day while you get on with yours.

Your eldest sounds so similar to my eldest agnu He's always been Mr. Independent and would just happily go off and explore on his own without a care if anyone he knew was around him. He's gotten much more clingy at 6, but he was so, so gung-ho about preschool when he was little. He LOVED it and thrived and had his own little group of friends there. We have not regretted one minute of starting him in preschool early as he always seemed to have a great time and now he's just having a great time in Kindergarten as well. I hope your little guy loves it when he starts.... and I think you're going to love the break! Plus you get the extra little time with your #2 and building that separate relationship with him. Please keep us updated!

Aww Kitty bummer to hear you've been waking up at night. M had a great stretch last week of sleeping (probably because she had a horrible cold...) but this week we are back to waking at least 1x/night. I'm tired. Zzzzzzz.

Ooooooooh pear! Exciting! I get excited about knowing when I'm ovulating even though I've got a coil and am totally not trying TTC right now. Maybe just the knowledge of knowing that I work is exciting? Speaking of, DH told me tonight that he wants to have another! Squee! Now what am I gonna do? I'm applying to nursing school.... if I get in, then it's definitely NOT going to be baby time for a long time. If I don't... then I guess it's something to consider for Plan B ? Maybe?

Jealous of your DH's willingness Bring! Definitely sounds like a good back up plan!

Y'know how Friend 2 died the day before Friend 1's funeral & I wanted a cancer/death-free fortnight? It's Friend 2's funeral today & yesterday my gran had a cystoscopy which showed 'something'... Highly likely that means her cancer's back. I'm not liking this pattern.

Interesting that he got clingy around 6 Bring. Maybe I'll get willing, if not entirely spontaneous, cuddles from Calf yet!

Frus we missed you! Good to have you back!

Ooohh so of brings DH's baby attitude too Why can't my man have a burning desire for a baby or just desire I even said to DH that if it wasn't for me he would probably be well into his 50's before we started having a children It's not that he doesn't want them...he's just always got other stuff on his mind Anyway, he's been told. It's happening. The TTC mission in our house is fast approaching December 2nd to be precise

Agnu ~ sorry to hear about your gran's news. It really is time you had some positive news so let's believe it's coming your way any minute now

Lor ~ I bet you're so happy to hear that DS is doing well in nursery from a friend. What lovely confirmation for you!

Kitty ~ hope the teething has settled?

Frus ~ Thinking on my feet...could you scent your bra with some strong smell that doesn't smell like milk? Olbas oil, lavender oil...any oil? I might give that a go when it's my turn! Regularly change tops? Where a sumo wresting outfit?

Bring ~ you're not alone. I am still bf. 7am and 7pm. No chance Bpear will give it up anytime soon! He was crying a lot one morning this week and when I went to collect him from his cot he said "Mama" "Milk". First time I've heard him say milk! When I said "Ahhh do you want some milk?" He quickly replied "Yeah" Kind of cute.

Agnu ~ sorry to hear about your gran's news. It really is time you had some positive news so let's believe it's coming your way any minute now

Lor ~ I bet you're so happy to hear that DS is doing well in nursery from a friend. What lovely confirmation for you!

Kitty ~ hope the teething has settled?

Frus ~ Thinking on my feet...could you scent your bra with some strong smell that doesn't smell like milk? Olbas oil, lavender oil...any oil? I might give that a go when it's my turn! Regularly change tops? Where a sumo wresting outfit?

Bring ~ you're not alone. I am still bf. 7am and 7pm. No chance Bpear will give it up anytime soon! He was crying a lot one morning this week and when I went to collect him from his cot he said "Mama" "Milk". First time I've heard him say milk! When I said "Ahhh do you want some milk?" He quickly replied "Yeah" Kind of cute.

Oh yeah! Sorry, I totally forgot that you were still "in the club". And then there were two...

Good idea on the stinky smelling oil!

So sorry to hear about this devastating news Agnu It's just not fair. Cancer sucks. I hope they are just saying that to be cautious and that it's not really back. Sending thoughts your way.

I'm in de club

Pear I thought you were pregnant when I first read that last post ( comes up first on my phone) it was a cruel trick to play!!
In da club Indead! Idont know how you can hold off when you know it's the right time, I'm tempted to now and I'm not surposed to have another
So sorry to hear your news Agnu but let's hope it's not the worst, I know it must feel likely with what's been going on recently but it could be something else, fx