October 2013 Bus Graduates: the one where we're not pregnant anymore

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Welcome Squirrel and Stinker! Congrats on your LOs.

Pink - we're starting to think about DTD again ... Not sure when we'll find the time though! I'm sure you'll get there soon but it's not something you can rush. The advice I've read advocates lots of lube, particularly if bf.

Rox - I have also PMd you re Facebook - I hope that is ok and thankyou.
Hello squirrel and stinker.
Having a nightmare night - feeding and crying in circles from 9 - 3. 2 hr sleep now feeding again.

Morning - early morning feed going on. Sore throat and runny nose and from the sound of his snuggles, C has something similar. He's been wanting to feed quite a bit which makes sense as I've been drinking lots to soothe my throat. Thank goodness DH has three days off later this week.

squirrel thanks for your details - I can't seem to find you on Facebook, and for some reason Mumsnet won't let me reply to your PM with my details (so you can find me on there instead). It also won't let me send you a message on here - all very strange! So we'll go to plan B; can you send me a PM with your email address (the one that your FB account is linked to)?

ruby and kiwee I have sent you both PMs on Facebook x

Thanks for your efforts Roxvox, your msg got through so I've looked you up on fb.
Still up from our middle of the night feed, which started 2 hours ago!

hi stinker of course you can join? how is ur baby doing considering their early arrival?
squirrel we sound very much in the same place, I had baby boy H on 4th oct and he's my first too!! how are you doing?

all ok here, had a bit of a fussy trumpy night but hopefully he'll drop off again now!!

I bet you got loads of messages from me all saying the same thing! I have now added you to the group on there

By the way squirrel I too am up on a looooong night feed. A is usually pretty good with night time feeding and it's over and done with (including a nappy change) in about 40 minutes, but we've been up for a good 90 minutes now. She has had 2 nappy changes, both boobs, and is now just refusing to settle!

Hi roofio. I think we're doing well, all things considered! He is putting on weight and is generally a happy baby. Sleep is our main problem, he's not one for sleeping in the day, or of he does will only sleep on someone-mostly me but do get to palm him off on my mum sometimes so I can rest. The minute he's put down he's wide awake and grumpy! He's also awake for a long stint at night.

Thanks rox x

Welome squirrel and stinker.

Thanks for the Amazon link roxvox.

Imp I'm 5 and a half wks post natal and my c-section scar is open and weepy in 2 places. I've had to collect dressings from the health centre twice but still no difference. I've had it swabbed and not heard back so presuming it's ok. I think you should have it checked just incase.

I'm feeling very rested this morning. Yesterday morning after making the dc's breakfast I went back to bed to join Dp for some "alone time". When he got up I told him I'd be downstairs in 5 mins. I fell asleep though and didn't wake up til 5.30pm by which time Dp was cooking dinner for the dc and ordering us a takeaway.That one unbroken sleep has made all the difference.

The first eight days were really hard Roof, we were in hospital and the little one had a feeding tube (suckle reflex develops between 34 and 36 weeks and he was born at 35+1), was quite vomity and under a jaundice lamp for two days. Both of the latter meant that we were advised not to cuddle our touch him too much, to make sure he kept his tube feeds down and to maximise his lamp exposure. This was horribly hard, being unable to snuggle with your pfb, along with the practicalities of living with the sleeping patterns of six newborns and the traffic of a busy postnatal ward.

I had gone nearly batshit crazy by the time we escaped (as in visual and aural hallucinations) through lack of sleep, but we did it in the end. The nurses were lovely,but it is quite a medical environment (obviously) and quite easy to get bogged down in. Managed to get breastfeeding established tho (hand expressing colostrum was truly soul destroying) and more we are home the little guy (and me) are getting into the swing of demand breast feeding. And I'm ecstatic to be getting 2-3 bouts of 3 hours sleep a night. He was definitely early rather than poorly, think he's just an impatient little wotsit as much as anything else. Anyone else have a similar experience?

Thankyou Rox.

Oooooo I feel inspired by all the mums fitting into pre-pregnancy clothes....May go for a dig in the sheds later today....

I don't really even fit my maternity jeans yet but they became too small around 5 months so going in the right direction.

Just had a break to clear up poo explosion on hand, bed, clothes... So forgot who I wanted to name check.

Welcome squirrel and stinker.
Flyer, do you warm up the ebm in the bottle for A? She might prefer that to room temperature and less likely to cause wind according to midwife. Just put in bowl of warm water or run under hot tap. Never microwave.

Tom was wide awake in the middle of the night. Not always crying, just eyes wide open and mouth in an 'ooh' shape ready to play some of the time. Our usual tricks of feeding and cuddling on chest didn't work but swaddling and hypno birthing music did the trick in the end.

Probably tmi... I have small tears around my anus and perenium still feels sore above them. They bleed and hurt every time I poo but don't think its piles as no itching/lumps and not constipated. Thinking should have gone away three weeks in, is this something I ask HV about or GP? Or pharmacist? Or is it normal?

(To be clear, the poo explosion in my last post was Thomas, not me! When did my life become all about poo...?!)

Stinker - my DD wasn't early (she was too comfy and evicted via ARM in the end!) but we had ten nights in hospital, firstly tube feeding for low blood sugars, then two stints under a lamp to treat jaundice. It's so hard keeping them under the lamp when they're so tiny and needing a cuddle.

I second your experience in the overly medicalised environment. I worried it'd push me into PND - it was so risk averse and process driven. Life is so much better now we're home!

Welcome squirrel and stinker.

Orange I would talk to GP or mw about it.

My parents' flight has landed and DH is at the airport. I'm still in bed after a particularly bad night, wondering if they'll notice if I skip a shower. I'm just so tired.

Orange no I will try heating them. Thanks for the tip.

Very tired here also.

Orange I said the same to dp yesterday about poo my life revolves around poo and getting my baps out constantly

Welcome stinker glad your home and sounds like your doing amazingly well.

ana sure they wont mind, you may even get chance to have one while they have their first cuddle enjoy x

orange i have the same, one is particularly sore and still feel like I have to hold down there while I poo. 4 weeks here and was planning to discuss it at my 6 week check if not better by then. alhough dont know if thats the right thing to do.

Warning to all those with refluxy babies. Dont change your bedding just as you think baby reflux is improving, it will encourage baby to prove you wrong and do spectacular vomit all over the bed at 4 am , including both pillows and sleeping DHs hair...

Pink we had the same the other night. Vomit all over the freshly cleaned duvet

Hi stinker

I can sympathise with you on baby being in special care. Even though Isaac was born at 37+1 he was born with pneumonia and a numathorax (air leak in his lung) and spent 7 days in neonatal. 5 of those in an incubator in intensive care on antibiotics and oxygen. Also being tube fed. Expressing colostrom was awful too, gettihg one deop out on various occasions. We've had a rocky road with bf since I could begin feeding him. He struggled to maintain his latch so we were given a nipple shield. That worked for a while but have spent lots of time weaning him off it. Even now at 7 weeks his latch isn't right but the shield has started hurting.

I too thought it would contribute to pnd. I got to day 3 and wondered how I was going to bond with my son when I could only touch him through a porthole!

Wouldn't wish it on anyone :-(

Sympathies to those who's babies were in special care. A bear also ended up in scbu and it does make things harder to deal with bonding and to me it seemed surreal like I'd never really had a baby.

I feel I have PND in fact I know I have. I'm really struggling with things and was going to go to the gp's today but we have an appointment for A's possible tongue tie at Alder Hey this afternoon so I know I won't get there today.

Everyday is a massive struggle and I have to be honest I'm getting very little enjoyment out of motherhood at the moment. I look at my daughter and love her very much she's so defenceless but I'm really finding it hard adjusting to my new life and the major sleep deprivation. Everything is getting me down and I feel like a pale shadow of my former self! I just hope medication can pick me out of this dark place which I feel I'm in at the moment.

flyer I'm so sorry you're feeling so rubbish but really glad you've acknowledged it. I'm not surprised with everything going on with A that you're finding it hard to enjoy it. I feel the same sometimes and actually have quite a happy baby. Definitely get to the go tomorrow if you can. You just need time and some help,maybe from medication, and I'm sure it'll all pick up. Hope it appointment at alder hay goes well today. We are lucky that that is our local children's hospital as I do think they are good.

I'm back off to the hospital today for my 6 week check with the gynaecologist to check how I've healed after my tear. It's still a bit painful especially when I poo so will get her to check that out. Also find it very hard to control when I pass wind so worried I'm going to fart in her face! Why would you want to be a gynaecologist?!? Ha