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AGnu · 11/10/2013 19:21

Old thread here

Bibs at the ready, things are about to get very messy! Grin

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kittykatsforever · 02/11/2013 17:45

Ahhh pear, good to see you, I too was just about to write that I miss you and lib and hoped you were both ok Smile
Lib lib lib < shouts around empty thread>
We take kitten up at 6 for a bath nappy free time extra and she's normally having her bottle around 6:45/7 asleep as soon as it's finished
I think you are right not to bring him down pear ( disclaimer, that's what I'd do anyway) best to signify it's not play time now and you "should" be asleep.... Fx he does get the msg and his wind improves!
Does he still sleep on his tum now he can roll? Kitten sleeps on her side now I think its so she can suck her thumb

FrussoNeedsGin · 02/11/2013 18:07

Sorry ladies I have to moan. I am sick sick sick of DH doing sod all. He thinks if he holds ds for 5 minutes or until he starts whinging then that's okay he's done his bit.
Or he sticks something in the microwave for the dds for tea. And that's okay. And he swans off out on his day off saying "I'll only be 2 hours" and comes back 4 hours later.
It's then end of half term and he has done nothing to help. He hasn't even walked the dog. And I'm sick of it. I'm sick d shouting because the dds won't do as they're told, and the house is a mess, any nobody else tidies up. Aaahhhhhhhhhhh
It's times like this that I wish I could just swan off to the pub.

FrussoNeedsGin · 02/11/2013 18:12

if anyone needs me I'm in a hot hot bath not in.

bringonthetrumpets · 02/11/2013 19:21

Feel for you Frus.

peardrop2 · 02/11/2013 19:32

Frus. Have you ever actually walked out and gone to the pub? I wonder what your DH would do he hee Grin it's hard. I hope the moan helped let it out!

Kitty ~ thanks. Agree with you that baby pear needs to learn. It's bad enough that he can't self settle. It does mean I'm only getting 30 minutes to myself every night because he only stays down from 7-7:30 and then it's up down up down. He will next stay down properly at 10:30-11pm when I'm very ready for bed!

kittykatsforever · 02/11/2013 19:51

Pear- I remember doing that all night with dd1 only hers went on till anything between 10 ( lucky and 3am ( want to kill myself) when it clicked we never looked back but man those months were hard
Frus- I think we can all empathise, I would love to just walk out and go to the pub, I'm not sure what dh would do but I'd shock him, I hope you get abit of peace in your bath mine are always ruined

FrussoNeedsGin · 02/11/2013 20:28

It used to be a big production with DS1, and it's just gone down hill in terms of structure as we continue to have children. you're tired? ok, you can just clean your teeth tomorrow. so true bring Grin

Peace? In the bathroom (which has no lock as dd2 can't be trusted) hahahaha. I ran the bath, sat on the loo and had dd1 trying to get in loo is close enough to the door to just about hold the door shut, but it was a bit heres Johnny or zombie invaders trying to reach in the door to ask me what I wanted for tea. I just wanted a bath. Alone.
Was lovely and hot. And I have to admit I lay there with my ears under the water and ignored ds whinging downstairs, helped by knowing I'd just fed him he doesn't nap well when the dds are off school. because they wake him up all the time. And I got shout today. Which he hates

I've not actually just upped and gone to the pub. It's only round the corner. I'd worry about ds. But if I took him with me then that would be pointless. I might do it next time.

peardrop2 · 02/11/2013 20:42

Kitty ~ sadly 10:30 is not the last of it he then wakes up at 11:30, 12:30, 1:30 for a feed and then 5am. It's really tough Sad

peardrop2 · 02/11/2013 20:43

Hence why I've been very quiet lately!

peardrop2 · 02/11/2013 20:50

Everybody told me it's tough looking after a baby but nobody mentions what it does to your marriage! Hopefully makes you stronger long term but wow is it testing!!

Frus ~ I am very Envy of your hot bath. Even though it's an interrupted one. I can't do anything at night anymore due to constantly having to settle baby pear back to sleep. I miss hot baths, reading books, watching TV, talking on the phone and even going to the loo Grin It's all worth it though right?

peardrop2 · 02/11/2013 20:53

Kitty ~ will it click soon? Please say yes :-)

peardrop2 · 02/11/2013 21:33

Bring ~ I forgot to say...nothing wrong with using a dummy! Baby pear won't take a dummy still however if he's teething really badly then he will and it's a great help to get him off to sleep when he does so I can totally understand my mums use pacifiers to help soothe!

Has anyone introduced pushed one that you like a soft cuddly toy to your lo? Baby pear mummy has befriended a monkey. Both the monkey and baby pear have big hamster cheeks so it's just too cute for words!!

FrussoNeedsGin · 02/11/2013 23:48

Grin at pears monkey. Ds has a few rabbits and monkeys, but his ultimate favourite is dd2s scabby simba. It's scabby and her ultimate it goes everywhere favourite. Even the dog's chewed on it. (Is been repeatedly hot washed). I must buy a new non scabby identical one for ds. Grin
pear I can recommend a strop followed by hiding in the bathroom.
I know how you feel. Ds' attempts at taking a dummy seemed to have lasted a total of 2.5hours. Clearly went the same way as his attempts at sleeping through. (That would be out the window Wink )
I don't get it. I've had 2 that I've had to wrestle away from their dummies. And now I have one who won't even consider one. He's nearly 6 months, what's the chance of him taking one now?

bringonthetrumpets · 03/11/2013 00:45

Oh god. I just got the image of little fingers coming in from under the door. That is the ultimate bath-wrecker. Sorry Frusso. Hopefully you can have a peaceful hot bath round #2 soon.

It gets better Pear. Promise! Does he take naps during the day at all? I'm sure you're getting all sorts of unsolicited advice about how to help him... so please ignore at will have you tested him for food allergies? I have been hearing so much discussion in my birthy-community about food allergies and reflux. Yes, we gave ds1 a stuffed animal and the manky thing is still being dragged around to this day (5 years later). He also insists on having his baby blanket with him as well. I'm curious to see what M decides to attach herself to!

peardrop2 · 03/11/2013 02:51

Bring ~ I'm all ears to any advice! It's interesting to hear what others say. Most know nothing about reflux so just go 'oh that's a shame' and then walk away or tilt their heads to one side in pity for me Grin I did try and get him tested for allergies 3x but the machine kept breaking at the testing place and is now permanatly broken which I find very suspicious! Other dieticians I've asked for advice from Allergy UK say you can't test a child so young. His reflux is getting better as I have halfed the amount of medicine we give him so no doubt age is on our side. But his wind is just such a struggle. He winds wonderfully in the day with complete ease but at night he fights it and I end up taking 1 hour to settle him after a feed which is tough. I know though...it will get better... One day Wink

peardrop2 · 03/11/2013 02:54

Forgot to say he does take naps at 10:30, 1:30, 3:30 and if he's really tired 5:30. They only last 30-45 minutes long and sadly they're only on me as he refuses to go in his bed during the day but will go down from 7pm when it's really dark. I have blackout curtains in our bedroom but they don't fool him Hmm

kittykatsforever · 03/11/2013 07:36

Pear age will be on your side! How is his feeding now ( food in the day?) when he wakes at night do you always bf him or will he settle without milk? I only ask as we used to have the endless battle of feed/ scream/ wind/ feed/ scream..... And it goes on, not feeding actually helps a windy baby as your adding fuel to it, the 2 things I thought that helped were colief and abit of gripe water, also with kitten when she started waking more and more in the night but I was confident she was getting enough food but then started to not be hungry for waking I stoped feeding her, I called it sleep training but essentially it was me not feeding and trying to settle her, I did try not to pick her up aswell and just patted her bum and soothed but you could do anything but try not to feed, the first night she woke up every hour but it did get better each night and only lasted 3
as bring said, feel free to ignore, nothing worse when your thinking ahhhh I've already tried that!!
Love the thought of two little monkeys ahhh I'm abit dubious about pushing the teddy now as dd1 has hers that we did and now the manky thing goes everywhere, yes we did buy another as we saw her love grow but the next one isn't the real one and she will not consider it, hers is "real" bubby and the other is "soft" bubby which she now gives to kitten ( who does like it actually) half the time I love it because it is soo cute but when you see how dirty the rag now is after many washes.....and god forbid the times we've lost it!
Grin As frus's fingers trying to claw in, I can just imagine lol

peardrop2 · 03/11/2013 10:03

Kitty ~ he wakes for food twice. Around 2am and then 5ish. I call him my bluebird because when I pick him up he keeps his eyes firmly shut, tilts his head back and opens his mouth in the triangle shape. He's done this since the very beginning. It's very cute and makes me being awake a little easier. He's a big tall boy (now 18lbs), takes after his dad (6ft5) so I feel that bf is just not enough for him in the day. I now give him 3x ice cubes break, lunch and tea. I normally give apple & porridge for breakfast, root veg or butter squash for lunch and pear & porridge for tea. Anyway, if he wakes up outside the 2 slots I normally pick him up, give him a cuddle and put him down again. So I try and do your way as much as possible. I am getting better at working him out a bit more. The reflux has made that side tricky for me but now that I have that a bit more under control I'm beginning to be better at reading his signals. I tried the pat bum shhh technique but it made him cry too much and began to aggravate his reflux so I don't do that anymore. However, I now don't play music to send him to sleep. I make sssshhhhh noises which he responds very well too. I'm hoping this will help when we're ready to try that ssshhh pat method again. It's all a massive learning curve isn't it :-)

How's weaning or breastfeeding going for everyone else? I tried giving pear Papaya yesterday and he was not impressed! I'm not surprised as I don't even like it. It's expensive and smells like feet Smile I don't feel like I've been experimenting enough with vegetables. However, pear has been so constipated I'm trying to focus on foods that will digest easily and upping his water intake instead.

That's so funny to hear about the manky toys! I've really set myself up as I wouldn't even know where to find another monkey as it was a gift. I'm not looking forward to carrying around a dirty monkey...perhaps it's a good thing he's brown Grin

peardrop2 · 03/11/2013 10:15

Hahah just looked up the label on the monkey and found him mummyrated.co.uk/2012/soft-toys-by-air-puppy-review/

kittykatsforever · 03/11/2013 10:47

Ha ha pear, yes everyone thinks dd1 is cute with her bunny but it started out a £20 kaloo bunny and now looks like an old blue smelly rag
Wow pear is a big boy! He's only a lb off the forward facing car seat, kitten was only 12.5 last time I weighed her, she must be a lb more now, kitten got abit constipated too so I try to give her water with it and prunes lol

FrussoNeedsGin · 03/11/2013 15:29

It's funny pear because they might randomly change their favourite toy. Or pick one that you can't replace. And by the time you realise you need to replace it you can't find one anywhere.

peardrop2 · 03/11/2013 16:48

Hmmm I now have visions of monkey being tossed aside and giraffe taking his place. I really have no I idea where the giraffe came from!

Kitty ~ I may have over exaggerated Smile he was 17.8 two weeks ago so I'm guessing he's now 18. Big though huh...feels too big to still be rocked!!

Our maxi cosi from birth car seat goes up to 29lbs so we've still got a fair amount of use to get out of it. BPear only goes in his car seat in the pram attachment like yours kitty so I'm in no rush to change it but we're thinking about buying one in the new year. His legs will outgrow it soon. We will see how he looks in the forward facing pram too. All these things make them look very grown up Hmm really need to get over the idea that he can't stay a baby forever

kittykatsforever · 03/11/2013 18:47

That's when you have another pear Wink

peardrop2 · 03/11/2013 21:18

Hahhah. It won't be the same though will it. It must feel different second time round.

Oh dear. Baby pear is struggling to settle tonight and is refusing to go down. DH is mad because he's missing TV time. Sigh Hmm

bringonthetrumpets · 03/11/2013 22:37

DS1 has this and the fur is all matted, he's kinda brown all over, and the little eyes have sharp corners while all the fur is smooshed down around the eyes from all the rubbing that DS has done. He's affectionately called "Kitty" (haha, sorry Kitty). We tried buying a second one to put into rotation but he saw through the plan and he still only wants the original. DS2 has adopted Kitty #2 so he can be like big brother.

They are never too big to be rocked! I still love rocking my boys. They are very cuddly even if they are all lanky limbs and sharp elbows

I know it's controversial, but muscle testing for allergies is a good way to check out little ones. Incredibly minimal and non-invasive. Usually a herbalist, chinese medicine provider, chiropractor, or naturopath will be trained in how to do it. I keep thinking of what I would do for a gassy tummy and I take fennel tea to help it pass. It's something you could give him after meals. (Cooled of course). Easy to find in the spices section, just let it steep for 15 mins, cool it and add it to his sippy cup. Or like Kitty mentioned, gripe water works too!