The 6th Broadly Gemini Luxury Bus - this way ladies.

[FrussoHathor]

Welcome aboard our 6th bus ladies.

Please don't leave, pear I'm just going to put it out there: My baby is a freak. Babies really aren't meant to sleep through the night. They are so tiny with freakishly fast metabolisms and they are supposed to wake up multiple times through the night. M would be up every hour if I put her on her back like we're "supposed" to.

Ooooh you can do it frus! 1 more day, 1 more day, 1 more day.

Getting nervous now bring it's 1st day at school all over again. Only this time I hope it's the right school.
Oh and ds has his jabs on Thursday, need to check when, and I still haven't phoned the doctors to get an appointment.
Bother and I forgot batteries today too.

Pear, look at the time of my post, kitten has turned too

And bring that's still on her tummy like I'm not " surposed " too

Is she moving schools frus?

Thanks for trying to make me feel better ladies. Baby pear also sleeps on his tummy. Has done since week 3 when I finally caved in. Sorry for moaning, I'm just really feeling sorry for myself as I could cope with the reflux and the milk allergy but to add teething to the mix is damn harsh

Interesting how many babies do actually sleep on their tummy isn't it!

Your allowed to feel pissed off pear, sometimes it's like that, you seem to hit milestone after milestone, it's also hard hearing when other babies are so "good" or never wake etc but I promise you everyone I know had hit a rough patch or had different problems, do you think you will wein early? Baby pear can only be a few weeks off 17wks which seems to be the key age they say not before, I did dd1 I think a few days before 17wks, wondering if dd2 will be the same, she definatly has a little cold as was coughing this morning

Yes I think we will have to wean early in a couple of weeks. I'm very very sad about it as I enjoy breast feeding so much. Obviously though I'm not enjoying watching baby pear be in so much discomfort. I think if this hasn't happened I would have carried on breast feeding a lot longer then I ever imagined. At the moment I don't know how much you can give solids and breast so maybe I'll feel better when I'm told the facts.

Sorry baby kitten has a cold

To start with pear you pretty much give them the identical amount of milk and just add one small amount of food then this Increases every few weeks, when dd1 was having a good amount of food at around 6 months that's when I started giving her water with meals but she was still on 3 milk feeds aday that 3rd droped around 9 months but I know people who still did three or four milk feeds for alot longer, it may be abit different with your case but as in abit faster for food but I think the milk would still be the same so don't worry about loosing your part, you definatly don't! Dd1 is 2 now and still has 2 bottles kf milk aday even though she's not ment to have bottles now

Really? I can carry on feeding him? That makes me really happy to hear! What will happen if he carries on refusing a bottle. He won't be able to take water will he? Is this why people keep telling me that I'm going to have problems giving him water? Sorry lots of questions

Yes you definatly need to keep feeding him aswel, I think Agnu said they recomend bf till 2 but babies need food from 1 at the latest so at the beginning you won't even notice the difference in your feeding, it's more as a addition as apposed to substitute! Yes that's why people will be saying it and I did have a friend who's daughter refused a bottle and she used a cup or tippee cup, but had to bf at night and things longer then she planned ( she got teeth!!)you will get around it plus he may not see it as the same thing when he's eating and enjoying food, my dd loved water and I mean loved! My friends nick named her miss evian, I always gave her it in a bottle but think ill try to give it in a cup this time as she became obsessed with her bottle of water like a dummy, shed get through 4/5 bottles if you let her although she still drinks loads now even in cups she drains the glass as soon as you give it her

doidy cups are good for non bottle takers apparently pear

Honestly, I take a 24 hour break from MN-ing & have several pages to catch up on! Chatterboxes!

Right, sleeping... Last night I held DS2 for an hour while he screamed. No idea what the matter was but he eventually dropped off while I sang to him. No before waking DS1 though! Might be something to do with us now being on our 5th poo-free day... The night before I woke up at 4.30 needing to express because I'd had a get-off-my-nipples moment & given him a bottle instead before bed. I'd hoped I'd just be a bit swollen come the morning & could feed to relieve it. Instead I was woken up in pain & with a soggy top!
Nights when both DSs go down easily, DH insists on staying up late to make sure the kitchen is spotless & I have to stay up too or he'll sit down with a coffee at some point & get distracted looking at videos of old planes on YouTube. It's not all roses in the Gnu stable!

The WHO recommendation is that babies are breastfed until at least 2 years & you can continue beyond that for as long as you both want to. Might want to stop when they leave home... Until they're 1 they get most of their nutrients from milk & food is just for the experience of it so don't feel you have to give a certain amount. As long as you're still breastfeeding he'll take what he needs from you. We always gave water in a beaker so he got used to milk coming in a bottle & water in a beaker. I think it made it easier to drop the bottle for milk.

DS2 had his second lot of jabs this morning. I'm hoping they make him poo. But not until tonight when I can make DH deal with the 5-day backlog!

Yes, please keep breastfeeding baby pear. Until the age of 2 is ideal and like agnu and kitty said, food is an add-on to the amount of breastmilk that he's getting in the day. The just call it "weaning" because he's not getting strictly breastmilk anymore. It may be frustrating in the beginning with giving them food because they tend to wear more of it than actually getting it down.... but they get the hang of it eventually. You can start out by making it an experience to have during playtime and then once he is used to the idea of solids, you can start increasing the amount and the number of times a day that he eats. They generally recommend to breastfeed first to fill them up, and then add food after that. They still need all of the fats, vitamins, and minerals that are in breastmilk that can't be found in the small amount of foods that they are taking in initially.

Can I just say " PRAISE DA LAWD " the little monsters have left the building. Love them, but oh mama is happy to have the day with the little lady!!

I know it's recommended till 2 but just incase anyone feels I wasn't planning on doing it that long, can I be the first to say it may be ok but for me when there's teeth......lol

Hmm, see if dont have a problem with teeth.

I would have loved to feed dds to 2, but they both self weaned at 18mths and 13mths. And nothing I could do to make them go longer.
I have a friend or sorts who I think was still feeding alot rising3.

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I don't really either. When it came to biting, it happened once with each of the boys and after I told them "no" and smashed their faces into my boob so they couldn't breathe they got the idea. Ds1 was about 7 mths when I switched to formula (biggest mistake ever as now he's allergic to cow's milk) and ds2 self-weaned at 1 month shy of 2yrs.

Anyone know how I can be in 2 places at once? Say for the foreseeable future until dd1 is old enough to be a latch-key kid

I'll be going back to work when ds is a year old so I don't know what I'll do about bf then. Anyone else done this? I'm not sure I'm up for expressing at work.

I'm going back at 9mths. No idea what I'm going to do. or even if I'll be able to go back to work

Lor my dd only had one in the morning and one at night by 9 months anyway so at a year old if you are there for those two times id say thats all shed need/want but I had already stoped by then, as I went back to work at 9 months so started cutting down at 6 then stoped completely at 8ish, to be honest I was ready for it, I may do it abit longer this time but I don't regret stoping when I did last time, I was ready for me back iyswim, plus I also wanted to try for dd2 and my periods just wernt returning while I fed, the other thing is they can go onto cows milk from 1 so bear that in mind aswell, if she still liked a drink in the afternoon or your not there for the morning for example you could use cows milk then

Morning. Tired. You ladies with non-schoolies are lucky.