December 2012: the little monsters continue to surprise us.

[MaMaPo]

I for one have a very surprising baby.

Dd was a year old but she never liked her milk and by then was only having some at bedtime. I think it's different with bf as its more than just food. If I was ff though I would aim to only be doing morning and night milk after a year

I only completely stopped feeding DS1 when I was pg with N, so he was 2.5. It wasn't a massive part of his diet by then, and was just more of a comfort thing really. I had never intended to feed for so long but it just worked out like that. I went back to work when he was 1, and he was fine with cows milk during the day. I also went away overnight when he was about 20 months without any problems.

Not sure what will happen with N. He doesn't seem to feed nearly as much as DS1 did, and I've got a feeling he'll self-wean way before he's two.

Dp wants to stay away for the night when we go to see Micky Flanagan. I'm not sure how I feel about that though. I don't think I'd be able to express enough for a day and a night

stacks good luck resigning! I hope they sort your holidays without too much fuss.

spotty I have a new (well new but second hand) iPhone 5 and the keyboard is in slightly the wrong place on the MN app isn't it. There is a big black bar at the bottom of the screen

I spoke to mum about my oldest brother and she was pretty angry too. She said that wasn't really on, so she will see what she can do. It's also the only time my brother is ever likely to meet DP's family. Mum said that even though my bro and SIL both earn good money it just runs through their hands like water.

I gave DS Rice Krispies as finger food. I'm an idiot! My living room is bloody covered. Sob.

Hope your mum bollocks talks to him Nutella.

Good news on the pay Utopian.

We have a 5 and a 9 month check but not an 8 month check here.

We had a fabulous night. He monkeyed around at bedtime for DH (at one point DP thought he was asleep and he then threw himself backwards off his chest onto the floor ) and only went to sleep at 9, but then he slept straight through until 7!

I really need to adjust DP's expectations of DS' sleep though. This week he's slept through three out of four nights but on Tuesday night he slept 7-4, 4:30-7 and he says that doesn't count as sleeping through. He doesn't get how lucky we are. Apologies to those suffering with terrible sleep for the this story may cause

And good luck Stacks

I always forget something.

Good luck stacks!

Exactly Nutella I'm constantly missing the space

Oops WillYou at least it's clean mess tell your dh that sleeping through is five hours in baby terms

Does anyone with a girl want two reusable swim nappies? They're the Konfidence ones and are 3-24 months dd only used them on holiday last year. You can have them for postage costs

Oh spotty, I'd snap them up but we're going on a beachy holiday on Monday so I'd not get them in time! Shame. Thanks for the offer.

Nutella - I am with you on feeling upset. If it's your brother I think they should be able to find the money - it's a one-off, important event! I hope your mum gets through to them.

Willyou, why is your husband so obsessed with sleeping through! Tell him to be more relaxed, they don't give out awards to the parents whose child has slept through most often.

After some weird nights last night C slept well - finally fell asleep about 7.15pm after playing in her cot for a while, squawked at 2am and I woke up thinking she'd need a feed but she fell asleep again, then awake for a feed at 5am and up for the day at 6.45am. Nice work C! Husband got home about 3am and I am so happy he slept in the other room - I could hear epic snoring.

Just worked out that we need to leave the house before 5.30am on Monday morning to get to the airport. Eep.

Good luck today Stacks.

Good work little C! Thank goodness for sofas! Eek that is an early start, hope it goes smoothly - if it was I wouldn't sleep the night before worrying about getting up on time! I'm an ejit I know!

Good luck Stacks

I'm glad that you enjoyed Peppa Pig world

Spotty thanks for the christmas thread tip.

We have another HV check between 7 and 9 months but i think the HV has forgotten to arrange it. They've asked whether its been arranged the last 2 weigh ins but for some reason we always manage to get the shit HV not our HV.

Nutella i hope your Mum manages to sort your brother out.

Willyou i'm ignoring your sleep through haha tell your DP he can lend H for a night if he doesn't think J's doing well. He'll be begging for J back the next night.

We had a terrible night last night. I think T has been slightly constipated for a week or so - really straining to go, but managing still. Well last night was a whole different story! He woke up loads crying, would only settle if I held his legs up in the air. Changed a dirty nappy at 3:30 but he was still unsettled and straining after. Finally got up tired and grumpy at 6:45 but refused to nap at all till 10:30. He's also been refusing to feed most of the night and this morning. I thought I was going to pop! He fed to sleep finally at 10:30 after I practically forced him had to hold him down and shove boob in.

If I resign tomorrow I lose some holiday pay? We get holidays pro-rata, so if I resign early I have less holidays to get reimbursed for. Stupid system encouraging me to keep work waiting. I'll work out how much money it is in real terms and see if its worth putting off resigning.

I'll go read back again now, I've forgotten everything I read. I always feel like I sound selfish not commenting on others, but I find it so hard to remember anything these days.

That should say resign today, not tomorrow.

Nutella - I'd be really annoyed if any of my siblings used an excuse like that not to come to my wedding. It's an event you make an effort for! I hope your mum can help sort it out.

I've no idea if we get another HV check. I'll ask next time I get T weighed I guess.

I always find it strange when people don't mind their children in public. I'd be concerned what people thought of me and my parenting skills. I guess done people don't care what others think though, or don't think it's their fault/responsibility. Shocked at the smacking comment though - a little too far in the other direction.

Really glad some good nights were had. I'd swap most of you for even one of your bad nights. It's hard not to expect 'sleeping through' to be 7-7 if you've not had a baby that doesn't sleep. I always thought babies slept once they got past newborn stage. It's only through you guys and mums at baby groups that I've learned just how much variation there can be, and how lucky some people are :) I also know as bad as I have it, there are still others putting up with worse.

I hate early morning airport runs. Good luck!

Oh dear, Tabs just sprayed dd2 with wee. It did not go down well!

Did someone report that weird post? How did mn know to delete it? Loved that we all just quietly ignored it!

Good luck stacks, hope its not too stressful.

I reported it

Poor dd2 WL!

Stacks I handed only notice after nine months so will only get three weeks holiday pay but I wanted to get it over with

I found you all, I got lost for a while there. Will try to catch up later.

DH is home in about half an hour! Yay!

Nice work spotty, twas a cheeky wasn't it.

What was the cheeky deleted post? Selling something?

Welcome back Isthat! Easy to get lost around here.

Stacks, I completely agree about the variation in sleeping. I would hope that my second baby would be a better sleeper but all things considered C has been ok, so maybe the 2nd would be worse? Don't want that! I think a lot of mums work out the degree of variation pretty quickly. Not sure if I mentioned it but someone I know who has a 10 week old put up a smug post on Facebook announcing that she'd slept through. My first thought was 'that's just not done!' She's a bit the same when we meet in person - she's sort of a friend of a friend so I don't know her so well, but I think she just hasn't picked up on the best way to talk about the travails of motherhood - ie. don't assume everyone else is like you and never assume you have it the worst. And try try try not to be smug about something that you have by pure luck.

It was someone wanting us to fill in a questionnaire including name and address

Thanks ladies! Good to know I wasn't BU . I have three brothers and the other two didn't question the expense at all ( one of them probably earns 1/4 of what eldest earns). But oldest bro is also the only one that hasn't met DS! I was really looking forward to introducing DS to his cousins (and vice versa). Anyway... FX they figure it out.

Now will read back and try for a less me me me post

willyou we can form an orderly queue for your DH to experience the true meaning of sleeping through or not

mama I don't like early airport runs either and I'm the same as wl I wouldn't be able to sleep I'd probably also be a bit excited

And well done spotty for taking care of the thread for us you can have a good mummy award - I've forgotten who mentioned that you don't get awards, that made me actually LOL!

That was me, Nutella! I'm impressed I actually made someone LOL! And no, you are definitely not being U about your brother - especially if he hasn't met your little one! Even more reason to come! You're only in Germany, we had plenty of people come to Australia for our wedding (v v lucky us) and will ourselves be back in Europe next year for a wedding. I kind of don't want to come back so soon, but weddings are Important and I'd feel dreadful if I missed it.

Yes, I am also one of those who can't sleep when facing an early morning, for fear the alarm won't go off or something like that. It'll be the first time since C was born that we'll have to actually worry about alarms.But we're off to Bordeaux and my friend there just emailed to say that she has organised a tour around a Chateau in the Medoc for us on Monday afternoon - so we'd better not miss our flight!