DECEMBER 2012: The start of crawling and the end of maternity leave

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Ah, reading comprehension is hard! It's always difficult explaining this kind of stuff online, and everyone is so different - in your situation I'd be glad my MIL spoke to her son, not to me, but that's not your experience. So it can be hard to give a definitive opinion.

Tired today! But C slept 6.45-6.10 with one wake around midnight. However, stupid me jumped up and fed her too quickly - by the time she was in my arms she was asleep again. Our guests left today; I think we'll sleep in the living room again and see how she gets on. That way I'll only feed her if she really needs it, not because I sleep lightly and jump up at the first sign of rousing. I feel like we could be on the cusp of sleeping through - the other night she managed 9.30-5, but I know she can do better than that. I just want one night of sleeping through, so I know it does exist!

Sorry to see our guests leave today. They love London so much, they're wonderful to have to stay because they enjoy themselves so thoroughly. They're getting married next year, and while he is ready to have a baby ASAP, she wants to wait a few years and has been upfront about being daunted and a bit scared. But today she said 'Seeing you with C makes me want a baby.' So that's pretty cool! They'll make wonderful parents, I can't wait.

Thanks for the water tips Spotty and Utopian, he drank a bit more today. I gave him a bit less food so he would drink more milk (extra fluid) plus I don't think he wants to eat as much in this heat.

IsThat, I use aveeno bath oil in H's baths, it has oat in it and I get it on repeat prescription with the cream to. Nutella, you could always ask for the weleda on prescription if it works for you.
Ha ha willyou. Tell them to fuck off! I'm going over to find that tread now
Hope you are all coping in the heat

I'm so jealous of all the sleep. I'm going to try again to stop the night feeds.
Sports day went well, we managed to find a spot under a shady tree, T was very well behaved, dd1 came 2nd and 3rd in her races and dd2 managed to pull my skirt down and show my under crackers to everyone!
This heat is dreadful, 29 in Ts room again even though I kept the curtains shut all day. Bring on the rain I say!

Ha ha! I bet you were shocked!

Those poor other mums WL

FWIW Willyou, although they see both DC regularly my PILs haven't spent any time alone with N yet and didn't with DS1 until he was about 12 months. DM looks after N for an hour while I take DS1 swimming, but that's about as long as I can leave him with anyone due to ongoing boob attachment issues. As you know (see threads passim) MIL and I don't have the best bond, but she has never pushed to spend time with either DC on her own. She genuinely seems fine with spending time with N with me there too and knows that it won't be long before he's joining DS1 when we take him to spend the afternoon there without us. DS1 has a brilliant bond with them so lack of time alone in his first year doesn't seem to have had any effect. I don't think YABU in the slightest.

A bit of drama here today. N's had his first A&E trip. He somehow managed to twist his arm when I moved him while he was sat on my lap (I'm not entirely sure how either). He wouldn't use it properly or put any weight on it while crawling. They thought at the Walk-In that he might have pulled his elbow. Two nurses tried to pop it back (which was horrible as he got really, really upset ) to no avail. He didn't get any better throughout the afternoon despite having calpol so off to A&E we went. They gave him some ibroprophen, and typically by the time the doctor saw him he was moving his arm quite a bit. They had talked about X-raying it initially, but as there's no real sign of injury we've got to keep an eye on it and take him back to a review clinic on Friday. Really hope he's not done any lasting damage and that he can get crawling again, as he's so frustrated not being able to move around as much as he was doing.

Oh ispy the first a+e trip is always awful. I'm glad Ns arms a bit better now.

Hope N's arm is better soon ispy and that he can use it properly tomorrow.

WL glad sportsday went well, well apart from you showing everyone your downstairs. It did make me laugh though.

Willyou i agree YANBU i think that parents and inlaws should make the effort to make you feel at ease before they are allowed to spend time with our LO's. For example my mum spent a night staying over everyweek and gradually went from just coming in my room to help with H to sleeping in my room and doing the wake ups even though i was next door biting my nails It was then a couple of hours at hers before we built up to H staying overnight. I hate people thinking they have a devine right to spend time alone with a baby they didn't give birth too. You do what your comfortable with and ignore everyone else.

H's 8th tooth popped through today awww she is in so much pain with it. And her 9th is at the surface but not popped through yet. Shes really struggling has anyone got any better suggestions than teething powders and calpol? I've been putting teething rings in the freezer and she seems to like that but it doesn't calm her for long.

Anbesol liquid is a lifesaver Hales, it's a topical anaesthetic sold behind the pharmacy counter

Sorry to hear about N's arm Ispy hope it feels better soon

Thank you Willyou i will be getting some tomorrow.

I got it when we were having a bad time of it months ago on spotty's recommendation. Ask for liquid as apparently it comes another way too.

Yuck 5:30 wake up...

WL that's hilarious

ISpy I hope N's ok. My step mum dislocated my little brothers elbow once but hopefully his is just a bit sore and is better today

Hales ninth tooth?! Ds still isn't even teething!

Really need to think about moving the two dc into the same room. Dp wants to wait until the evenings are darker. Need to redecorate both rooms but I only have £150 saved and my maternity pay stops in two weeks

I've been wondering about moving O to his own room. Dh is in no rush though and while he's still not sleeping through I don't feel that bothered. Would it help though?

Not necessarily utopian. I think it only helps in that you're more likely to leave them than get straight up to them I'm hoping that dd can entertain ds when he wakes at 5:30 (as he usually chats for a while) then I can get a lay in

I wish we had a second room - C would be in there like a shot! I think we wake her and she wakes us up.

Red letter day here - C slept through for the first time. Yes!!! 6.45pm to 6.10am, no wakes, no feeds. Of course I didn't sleep nearly so well, and my boob was enormous. The disparity between supply in left and right is getting more marked - anyone know anything about this? Should I do anything in particular? I might call the bf helpline about it. I don't want to be massively lopsided!

Impressed by 9 teeth, Hales! We still have just 2.

, WL.

Ispy, hope the arm is fine today. Scary!

Rant alert!! Grrr!! If I ordered something for my son that I thought was more of a blue/purple but it turned out to be more of a pink/purple I am within my right to say I don't like it!!!! Why do people have to jump on the "well what's wrong with a boy wearing pink" band wagon?? Nothing wrong at all... But it's just not my choice. Grrrrr!!

willyou - absolutely not unreasonable - no-one has a right to expect time alone with someone else's children. That has to be agreed on when both are comfortable. My dm and mil didn't really have big 2 alone until I was preparing to go back to work and have only had T for maybe 30 mins once or twice. Mil has made a few comments over the years about if they were on the bottle I wouldn't be 'tied' to them - dd1 was bottle fed from 3 months and I still wasn't comfortable leaving her until nearly a year.
eggs rant away, if you don't like it that's your business, whatever the reason.
Poor baby ispy
mama diff between my boobs is quite marked -both T and dd2 really favoured the left side so milk is def higher in that one. I don't think there's much you can do about it and they'll settle down after you've finished feeding. I always try to offer T the right first but sometimes she won't take it. Anyway, I'm turning my back on you after your great sleep!

Hope baby ispy gets better. And they will always decide they're better just as you get seen.

We aren't moving A yet, but only because he wakes up several times a night still and would wake DD if they were sharing. I'm not rearranging other rooms to fit the cot in, so he's in with me for a while.

I've forgotten to bring the bag with my pump and cool bag to work, and I'm in the office 40 miles from home so no lunchtime dash back!

I'll have to dip into my frozen store for tomorrow, and see how long I can go without pumping. I suspect I'll end up hand expressing over the sink sometime this afternoon. Seems such a waste!.

Oh no Barbeasty! Just put it into a cup in the fridge and people can use it in their tea Hopefully you won't need to express much to relieve the engorgement so you won't be wasting much. I hate to think how much I've wasted hand expressing in the bath when trying to clear blockages...

DS is being really grumpy. He was crying at 11 so I thought maybe he wanted his lunch a bit early but he refused it (such a waste!) so I bf him and he had a good feed and started falling asleep...I put him to bed where he seemed to go straight down but ten minutes later he was screaming so I ended up getting him up again as he wouldn't settle now he's on the floor just moaning. He must be tired, my house is so dirty though I really need to sort it out....

I managed to get through the day without expressing at work. I'm doing it quickly now I'm home, and I definitely need to, but in 5 months when I don't need to do it any more, I think it will only take a couple of days to stop the engorgement.

Oh that's good engorged boobs are no fun.
Ds just ate four quavers 1/3 slice of toast and a yoghurt for tea. He's also properly drinking from his cup

My poor boy is so uncomfy. His eczema has come up awfully in his elbow creases. I wonder if its from the suncream, I bought boots soltan baby and used that but he's so much worse than yesterday :(

My teeny tiny under the 0.4th dude is now 16lb9 and over the 9th!!!

We've got no cartons of formula left so ds def can't have a bottle tonight wish me luck...