The 5th Gemini luxury bus - the one with babies!

[FrustratedSycamoresRocks]

As we have all our gorgeous babies now, welcome aboad the 5th Gemini bus.

Drinks and previously banned foods supplied in bulk, Car seats installed, slings and prams at the ready, as we head into parenthood, and all the excitement, and sleepless nights our little ones will bring along the way.

Oh and dd2 decided she was going to have her two feeds and woke at 3:30, only an hour after shed been asleep and 30 mins for me no amount of persuasion would convince her she wasn't hungry even after she's had a great feed at 1:30, you'd have thought her throat was cut from her reaction! The only positive was she then slept til 8
Dh was in the spare room last night for a good night ( just required to look after dd1 which is usually jusr her waking at 7ish or if she looses her teddy to just go in and find it then walk out again)and yet missed dd1 wakening up then waking dd2 and also missed her waking this morning at 7:30, needless to say I'm not impressed that I was looking after both of them all night on my own

The one on my right is right where he puts his fist when he's feeding. The left is purely poor latch. It does hurt as such (usually because I pick up on it early enough) its just the flu-y symptoms that drain me.
It can be caused my many things, interrupted feeds is probably my main cause.

Will be back to talk after I've been shopping for party food. Not ignoring your post kitty

My MIL is visiting with DH's brother and my 2 nephews, 8 and 11. They didn't take their shoes off when they came in and now she's making them all sandwiches while I feed Baby upstairs and noones offered me any. DH is playing Xbox with the boys and BIL is trying to give us Sky on our laptop (which I don't even want). Am I a horrid person to be feeling a bit grumpy and neglected, I thought I was supposed to be the special one!!

I would be fuming lib they would be taking the p acting like that even if you didn't have a newborn. I'm fuming for you.

kitty 4oz is a lot to express, I've only managed 3oz and ds only takes 1 1/5 max from the bottle. At 1lb every 2 weeks I wouldn't be worried about supply, that's a great gain. Ds only puts on do much cause he's a gready boobie monster. I've not known anything like it. My dds certainly didn't put on do much so quickly.
Formula fed babies always appear to drink more and put on weight quicker, but by 2 they're all the same.

4 oz is a huge amt to express!! Please don't let this put a dent in your breastfeeding confidence as many women don't express half as much as their babies take in. There is a totally different sucking mechanism involved when babies feed vs a machine using a vacuum. Having soft breasts is also a sign that your body has figured it out and you still make milk on-demand as your baby nurses. If she was always seeming to be frantic at the breast, was constantly wanting to nurse, wasn't having wet and poopy nappies, seemed lethargic and dehydrated, those would all be signs that she's not getting enough milk.....and it sounds like that's definitely not the case! If you feel like you want to boost the amount that you make, add an extra session of expressing milk after she's already fed. It won't seem like a lot, maybe an extra oz on each side, but expressing out the remaining amount of milk in your breast will signal for them to make more as it's a supply and demand system. It'll take aprox one-two days for your body to react to that extra demand.

Oh frus that's not good at all. Rest up, I hope you feel better soon! Do you think you'll go get anti-b's again? I've heard of women using grated raw potato poultices on the affected areas and having them work really well too.

Lib I would be so irritated if that was happening in my house!!! Om, hello! You're a rockstar who gave birth to another human and you're not even getting a freak'n sandwich for your efforts. Not cool.

bring what do you think about a slippery elm poultice? That should cool it.
I was given a 2wk supply of abs, and told to take for 10days, so I have enough left to start them before I get to drs.
However if there is anything I can do to deal with it and try to prevent it coming back, that's got to be better than constant abs.

I couldn't find the 2 you suggested. would aconite help with the flu-y symptoms, can I take that?

Thanks frus, that's reasurring, dd1 had almost exactly the same weight gain and she started on the 9th line and was just above the 50th by 1, she's on the 93rd now little piggy although I find it strange as its nothing to do with height and there's a good bit of difference with them at this age!
I always felt I was under supplying for her too but there must be something in them as they both went 3/4 hrs between feeds, I love breast feeding but at the same time it's frustrating that you have to do all the night feeds and that ff babies tend to go through the night quicker, still next week when dh is back at work I'd do them all anyway and it's easier then going downstairs to faf with bottles so swings and roundabouts I surpose
Lib they should be waiting on you hand and foot, you have created life, you are god

Ds is just above the 50th centile, but I think he should be corrected to 3wks early, which puts him on the 98th which ties in with his weight gains.

The 98th lol little piggy
The health visitor made me worry about dd1 going to the 93rd but you've seen her pic and she doesn't look that big does she?
I've cut down giving her as much treats and more fruit but she does love eating like her mum

No kitty not big; gorgeous. My dd1 was all skin and bone, and still is, I thought I was going to break her.

Just went to burp ds mid feed, and he sneezed milk all per my face. Yummy.

Eeew and now the nappy is being filled. [grimice]

I had baby milky sick all down my cleavage earlier lol oh the glamour!!

Nice kitty motherhood is so sexy and glamorous

Yeah frus slippery elm might work too. The lecithin may be something you'll have to order online or find in a natural food store. You need to take 3 pills of 1200mg 3x per day for the first 2 weeks, then you can slowly reduce to 1 pill 3x per day as a maintenance dose. I'm afraid I don't know much about aconite. Even just taking some ibuprofen could help reduce the aches and the fever.

Mmmm baby sick down the cleavage is just great stuff.

Oh my goodness I ache so much.

Hi, thanks for letting me winge. Turns out it was completely unnecessary. MIL had made me a big plate of sandwiches, she just didn't want to disturb me feeding to bring me them (I really wouldn't have minded!) and DH was entertaining the boys so that I could feed in peace. Anyway, after they left he carried N in the sling for a couple of hours so I could have a nap and I woke up much less grouchy!

I think we are slowly getting a pattern. Feed at 8, 10, 12, 4 and 8 again. We go t bed at 8, I do the 10 and 12pm feeds then DH takes her in the sling between 4 and 8 so I get some sleep without having half an ear open for her stirring. Those timings are vague, they could be an hour either way. It takes about an hour to feed, wind, rock her to sleep then transfer to the bednest. Now we are better at feeding, I need to help her settle and not just sleep on me or being rocked. All tips welcome!!

Oh my goodness, i am all partied out, I think I've survived. Dd2 has some lovely friends, and their mums were lovely, ds was good as gold. (And had loads of cuddles).

Sounds fun! Well done xxx

I'm feeding lying down....too tired to sit up!

M poo'd alllllll over my bed this morning. It was a silent runner as I reached for her next nappy (it even ran off the changing pad!). Urgh. Bedding in the wash for the second time in less than a week....

Dh and boys are at the zoo for the morning. I went with them yesterday and I think I over-did it. Bleeding has come back with a vengeance after completely stopping which midwives would say is a sign to lay-low again so we are cuddling on the couch in peace and quiet.

That's awesome that you guys have a little schedule going Lib. M is still all over the place in terms of when she wakes up. She slept for 4 hrs again last night and then wouldn't settle unless she was in bed with me. She's been really sleepy in the last day or so, so I'm thinking she's working on a growth spurt and we'll have a fussy day or so as she tries to increase milk intake sucks me dry.

Maybe swaddling to help her settle?

Ugh, DH has come home from work in a stroppy mood again. Tried to take over the tv when I had dd2 calmly sat down watching a film rare in itself so I sent him to bed like an over tired child. I've got no sympathy for his hard-done-by strops. Work is nothing compared to single-parenting my dcs for a day. And he doesn't do any nightshifts with ds, and at the moment is doing nothing around the house except for occasionally thinking he's bein helpful by putting a wash load of his clothes in the machine. so I've gone for a lazy walk with ds and the dog in the sun.

Flippin headache again. Seriously guys, I can't possibly drink anymore water so I don't understand why they keep coming. Owie.

Frus sounds like you've had a crazy busy day with a grumpy hubby. I'm sorry . That does not sound like a fun thing to deal with.

Need more sleep bring? Or hormones? Headaches are a nightmare when you don't know what causing them.

At least grumpy h wasn't around to grump over dds party.

I've woken up enough times to keep drinking. But ds is only on his 1st feed. I shouldn't grumble but leaky porn boobs are not the way to go. I'm so not used to easy sleeping babies. I almost wok him up to feed him an hour ago, but put him back in his bed, was in with me and he stayed asleep.

Omg does this boy sleep when he wants to. I've definitely been spoilt by him. And I'm still totally loved-up over him.

Ahhh sleep. Funny your post mentions it, I'm fuming and just sat in bed crying with a baby attached to my boob!
Dh is a wanker, in the last 4 nights he's spent 3 in the spare room, yesterday I had them both til midnight out do he could go what he wanted, he hasn't once said thanks and I'm absolutely knackered, if dd wakes at 5:30 then that's it got the day for me, I've had one nap in 6 wks!
Anyway dd was awake from 11:45 -2:30 pretty much last night then woke at 5:40, I got her to sleep at 8 then said to dh that I wanted to try and grab some sleep as I'm just so so tired, usually ofcourse at this time dd would sleep til 10/11 but no she woke at 9 so I've had less then an hour and dh downstairs has just completely ignored her crying on the monitor so I've had to get up again, why couldn't he even try to help or let me sleep I won't be able to again now as I find it hard enough to switch off anyway I have to be absolutely desperate before I do it!