Still brooking no argument for sleep, glorious sleep!

[Stacks]

This will be the thread where all brooking babies learn to self settle and sleep through the night (the real version, not that 5hr at a time thing).

Boo sounds like you're getting on great with the weaning. I've always found breakfast to be the 'worst' meal for T, as he has milk when he wakes up, so is never that hungry. We wait an hour or so, but he still doesn't eat much. Lunch is almost always enjoyed though, and he tends to eat a lot more.

T is 10 months next week, it's gone so fast! He's also become quite adorable the last few days, even if he's not sleeping as well. He's started building his tower with his stacking cups, if you give them to him in the right order and the right way up. :) He's also started showing his temper a bit, but it's still pretty cute just now.

Right, the Shiraz is poured and the chicken shish is about to arrive so no time for a post BUT I promise to post properly over the weekend - we can't let this thread die!!

10 months already, wow, it really goes so fast! I have a sneaky master plan for breakfast as K also likes a BF when she wakes up, so I will get the teen out the door, do the school run with C and after 9 when it is all quiet in Boo towers she can have her porridge/fruit then another BF I do realise this will never work in practice

Olives I will take a if there's one going

How did breakfast go Boo?

T is refusing all food and water the past couple of days. I'm giving him as much breastmilk as he wants, but not really sure it's sufficient. His sleeping has turned awful too, he was awake basically every hour last night, though he didn't need me to resettle him at all really, it's making him do tired and grumpy during the day. Me to really. I fed him at 3, 5 and 7, but he woke me up at 11, 12:30, 1, 1:30 and 2:15. He just dirt of lays there and whimpers for 5 minutes or do before going back to sleep. Not even crying really. Then in the morning he throws himself around in tiredness, occasionally collapsing on me for a cuddle out of exhaustion. I can't get him to feed back to sleep though :(

I've no real idea what to do. I'm wondering if it's because I took him off his reflux meds, so we're going to try starting those again today.

Olives how was the wine and chicken shish? We had takeout last night after T went to bed, DH just wanted chip shop though. Bit boring really, but lovely not to cook.

Putting him back on the meds sounds like a good idea, to be honest as I was reading it I thought it sounded like a poorly tummy :( Hope he feels better soon! Brooking he improves so you can get some sleep!

Breakfast was a success, we like porridge a few spoons of porridge and a nice BF was a hit :):) the poo that went up to the back of her neck, not so much of a hit though

of all the yummy take aways.

Now I know I said I'd post properly but it's going to be fairly short as I am cream crackered!
stacks any difference with T after a couple of days back on the meds? We stopped T's gaviscon a few weeks ago and his ranitidine 10 days ago - so far so good - he has been a bit grisly but I think that's due to the arrival of his first 2 teeth over the last fortnight! And any more piar action?? Has it sunk in yet that dc2 is growing away inside you?
Glad to hear K is enjoying her food boo, porridge is my favourite breakfast too!
gen hows fil doing? I hope you are all bearing up ok. Are you back at work yet?
little how did the cc go? And how is J doing on the reflux/intolerance front?
All is ticking along in the Olives household. T is very cute, he has a stubborn but loving little personality developing and is changing and growing so quickly! Some days he eats like a horse and other days he is all about the milk still! He's definitely not a fan of breakfast so any suggestions gratefully received? We have tried porridge, weetabix, mini shredded wheat, shreddies, cheerios and toast but he doesn't seem interested in any of them! Fortunately he's quite adventurous at other meals!
Well I managed a longer post than I thought! Sorry for not name checking everyone but sending a cheery brooking wave to all
Oh and my Friday kebab and wine were heavenly!

Morning all. T seems better these last couple of nights, hard to know what's done it though. He was really hot and sweaty and night, so we turned off his heater, also gave him his meds back, and it was 4 days later - which with a baby is just as likely to have been the cure! Still, we're keeping him on the meds for now, and have a review appointment at the hospital this week anyway.

Olives T has never been a fab of breakfast really. You could try fresh fruit, or maybe eggs? Also flavoured porridge, I mix in fruit purée.

We are so quiet these days!

Stacks, glad T's sleep is getting better again and you got sorted with some medication. Hope you can keep that pesky nausea under control! I was reading the other thread while putting E to bed and read with interest your thoughts about T's birthday. We obviously have a similar issue with E's birthday on 28 Dec and I'm considering a summer celebration for him too. Seems a bit weird though when it's not his real birthday. My birthday is in January and it always feels a bit too close to Christmas, nobody wants to go out as they're all skint/on diets/not drinking. Hmm.

Olives, I'm sad to say FIL died about 10 days ago. It's very sad, but things are starting to go back to normal and we're trying to look for the positives. I am back at work and just about getting into the old routine again. Re your breakfast dilemma, E has Ready Brek with fruit puree or mashed banana and loves it. He wasn't too keen on Weetabix, which I thought was a shame as it's so easy! Mind you, RB is hardly a chore!

Booooo, I'm glad K is weaning so well! She's a good girl, that 'un!

Well E is now pulling up to stand and can do several steps if you hold his hands. We are not ready for this! How can he be at this stage already!!! He also has four lower teeth, one top tooth now and three more very nearly through. That, with his full head of hair and standing up abilities means he will look like a toddler before long - aaaargh!!!

I'm sorry to hear about fil gen, it's so sad but I'm glad you are managing to think positively, are you going to be fund raising for pancreatic cancer? I love the pic of dd with her grandpa on FB, just gorgeous How is it being back at work?
Thanks for the breakfast suggestions stacks and gen - I've tried mixing fruit into the cereal but he's still not keen. I tried normal porridge rather than Ready Brek this morning as he likes texture to his food and he did actually eat more than usual (although I suspect that may have been because Max was messing about which distracted him!)

Thanks Olives! Yes, I want to. Some of the family are doing running and stuff, but I don't think I could do that! Not sure what I'll do though. It is OK being back at work, I do enjoy it. But I miss my DCs! Re breakfast, would he eat pieces of banana? E likes to feed himself and it's messy, but I always think banana is a good one as it's filling and nutritious (but horribly messy on his clothes and hands!)

Went to see the consultant yesterday for DS. He's ok but needs to put on more weight - only put on 300g in 3 months. They gave us high calorie fortified formula milk for him. I'm trying not to worry too much, but he's dropped from the 75th percentile at birth to the 10th now. He was also on the 90th percentile for height at birth, and just 25th now. I just can't make him eat :(

NC here - was Pet but fancied a change.

Stacks congratulations on the BFP! How exciting! My SIL has just announced her pregnancy and I'm a little bit jealous of you both now...

Sorry to hear about T's weight. Has he been refusing food for a while or just recently? You could try adding lots of butter / cream to his food?

Dream when your DH took S away for 3 nights of night weaning, how was it? Did DH get much sleep and did S understand that you weren't there, do you think? How is his sleep now? Any further improvement?

No time now but will try to post again soon.

Hello all,

Glad to hear of things going well. Wow, almost walking generic can't believe he is so big now!

stacks, does sound like he still needs the meds. Did the consultant think he should still be on them? You could always add in a dream feed too. Have to say, Seb is eating better since night weaning, taken about a month to see an improvement, so maybe it'll help him too.

Night weaning and indeed stopping bf has made sod all difference to sleep here, though he is a bit easier to settle. Still wakes just as often though. Sigh. He is ok when away from the house with DH. Wakes, occasionally cries in DH arms for up to 90 min, but generally a quick settle. Unfortunately in our house, if he knows I'm there, he will not accept DH, at all. I have to have him to stop him waking the others. Mission Self Settle has failed. Gah. Now what?

Morning. We put T back on the meds and he seemed to get a bit better. Still not sure if it was just coincidence though. The consultant said to phase it out more slowly if we want to try again, so miss one dose in 4, then 3, then every other day etc. We're on holiday just now visiting my dad, and he's refused to take his last two doses. Hopefully we'll get one down him today and not miss again for a while.

Being on holiday this week has been good for feeding T too. DH has been home and we've been trying new foods and strategies to get him eating. He's been doing loads better, but it basically means most of the day is now focused on making him eat. He seems to get bored of eating quite quickly, so his meals take an hour or so to finish, while he has regular play breaks. Food is going in though, I just hope it sticks to his little bones!

I've been down in London mostly to meet my no-longer-little nephew. He's 8 months, and this is the first time I've met him and his mum. You might remember me posting back in the day about my brother moving out and leaving them. Well, they're doing well without him, though are still good friends with each other and my family. It's been good meeting him, but I've really noticed lots of differences in their development. DN can't sit unaided, seems to have very little core strength or coordination. He also never cries or really makes any sound. I guess because his mum is deaf he's learnt crying doesn't work? I'm a little worried, but just need to remember children all develop at different rates.

It was a little surreal though, within an hour of meeting them we'd been left to babysit DN while they went out shopping for a couple of hours... I've still basically never left DS with anyone!

I've rambled on for ages and not checked in with anyone. I'll go back and read now.

Gen sorry to hear about FIL. It sounds like DS is really coming along. T still doesn't have any teeth, DH is impatient for him to get some, but as I'm still bf I don't mind too much :) For money raising have you hought about doing one of those 'night in' parties? You basically do a dinner party and drinks, but your friends donate what they would have spent if they'd all gone out to a restaurant. I think it's mostly talked about for raising money for breast cancer, but no reason you couldn't do it for pancreatic cancer instead. You could have some leaflets to raise awareness too.

I'm now officially making the decision that DS will have a summer half birthday celebration! Even if it's just some of our friends and family that will honor it, I think it'll be better for T to have that day all to himself, rather than sharing his birthday with that pesky Father Christmas! I just really hope dc2 isn't born on the 25th June! Ideally he/she will wait till July :)

Dream I really hoped the night weaning plan would help he sleep. Well, I hoped it'd be a bit of a miracle cure really. Are you managing a bit more sleep at least?

Nora good to see you again. How are things going? You considering another DC at any point? T's been refusing food for ages, or just not showing any interest in it. He'll happily go all day without food or bf, it's like he doesn't really feel hunger. I've noticed though that now he's eating a little more this week, he's willing to eat more. Maybe he's only just realised food makes the hunger go?

Afternoon all!
T went for his first nursery trial today, just 2 hours, and he loved it whilst I cried like a baby at leaving him! He has another 2 hours tom then full day on Thursday! I'm just so glad he was fine, allays my guilt somewhat! Although I'm not sure why I feel guilty - I'm going back to work so we can pay the mortgage and bills and not for any other reason! Well I suppose a little part of me is looking forward to not being mummy for a few hours and I do enjoy my job, I just wish we could afford for me to do less hours!!
How is everyone else? It's still very quiet in here. x

not doing too badly over here. had a horrible session doing cc with f not long ago which has worked really well but ds1 not really sleeping well despite being exhausted from starting school. think he is just a really anxious child but its difficult to constantly reassure him that its not going to rain which he seems to get really wound up about but when it actually rains he is not that bothered - go figure.

gen sorry to hear about your FIL. my mum's best friend has just died of pancreatic cancer - it seems to move so quickly its frightening. my cousin who also has terminal cancer had a much worse prognosis but is still hanging on in chemo so think really the drs have no idea how much time anyone has really. bit depressing all round. sorry

We're such a quiet bunch these days, I remember when I could barely keep up with this thread. No idea how to liven things up though.

T slept 6:30-7:30 last night, with a 1 minute resettle at 3 and a 10 min feed at 4:30. Such a far cry from our nights just a few short months ago! Just trying to get him down for a nap now.

Glad nursery trial went well Olives, how are things now?

Hinky children's anxieties are so hard to figure out and deal with. They make no sense but are so important. No advice really, just hope ds1 gets past it soon. Glad the CC worked with F, it's what finally made the difference with T. He's so much happier now after decent sleep.

Hi everyone

I fell off the thread a while back, so hope you are all well??

J is a better sleeper after doing cc, though I'm still doing a night feed. He's still dairy intolerant and I think gluten intolerant too. I've stopped bfing so he's on nutramigen formula now, which smells vile but he guzzles fine.
He had a skin prick test today to check his symptoms aren't from an allergy, but everything tested was negative. Apart from all that, he is absolutely wonderfully scrummy

Dd is also great, but testing us with her teenager-like attitude. I just don't know how to deal with her sometimes

Hello all. We've become chronically quiet on here!

I'm doing awful at mn these days, just too tired. Wanted to come check in with you all though. Also, DS is walking :)

Hey stacks, I know what you mean, I am so busy with my 2 ds's that I just don't get as much time as I used to to go online. Ds2 started nursery yesterday though so I will now have a bit more time, although he will only be going 10 hours a week, and I need to reinvent our lives so a lot of time will be going into that. We want to move house, just about given up on selling my house so now starting to investigate the prospects of renting a house elsewhere close to my family and getting a job to pay for it with DH commuting....however there is no such thing as part time work in this industry and I can't bear the idea of working full time and being away from my boys. But I need to do something ASAP as ideally we'd like to ttc number 3 in January, so need to be in work asap and then I am hoping I could negotiate part time hours when that mat leave ends.... So makes sense to work in new area as if we have number 3 when we hope, it will coincide with when we need to start applying for school for ds1, so really need to get a job in that area before dc3 is born as ds1 would then be starting school just as that mat leave ends....so a big complicated mess in my head as to how to get where we want to end up. 2 possible jobs so far, and trying to talk myself into the idea of full time work and not seeing my boys. Anyone got any tips? Since having Ds1 although i had income coming in throughout due to the way our industry works, I only id very much part time self employed work from nov 11 to July 12 then have been on extended mat leave ever since! Kind of got used to not actually working and being at home....

Wow, lots of plans Loopy, and how exciting about TTC #3! We're hoping to move next year, but as yet we've not really done much more than pick an area we want to move to (and a secondary school for DS, even though he's not even 1 yet!). We want to make the next area we move to be the place our kids fully grow up, if not a forever home. Realistically I think we'll move a couple more times, but stay local to the area where DS and bump go to school.

No advice for helping you leave your boys to go back to work. I handed in my notice not long ago, so am now officially a sahm. Hoping to stay home till both DC start school, or at least school + full time nursery. What industry are you thinking of moving into? I'm hoping to go into some kind of learning support in education. Perhaps in a special needs school. Still quite a long way off for me though, so don't need to think of any concrete plans yet.

Hope everyone else is well?

hales sorry to hear you're having such a tough time. I really hope the dr can help you. DS is really hard work too, he just will not play on his own. If I try and even sit in a chair in the same room as him while he plays then he'll stand at my knee and scream at me, if that doesn't work he starts bashing his head into my legs and biting my clothes. If I just get down to his level he's a bit better, but it's so uncomfortable being on the floor with him all day, and so restrictive! I expected parenting to be a full time job, but not this full time! Work usually involves at least a lunch break and a couple of coffee breaks. People at baby groups are surprised when I say he won't play on his own, and basically all end up asking some form of "have you tried just letting him play on his own". It's like they can't comprehend it :(

Our saviour is getting out, whether it's baby groups, shopping or just out for a walk. DS loves to watch other people, so even though I still have to sit and play with him, he's not as focused on the playing, so I can sneak in a couple of minutes of thinking my own thoughts. I can't imagine coping if we had to stay home all the time. I don't like noise or social situations, but it's more that I don't really know how to participate, even with friends I've had for years. Loud sounds make me cringe and jump, but it really is just a dislike, so I can handle it fine.
DH has never had DS for more than 2 hours, and never at all without me also being in the house and helping him with stuff - choosing what to feed him and when, watching him when DH wants to use the loo etc. I had a chat with him last weekend and have told him he needs to learn to deal with DS himself. I think next weekend I'll hide in the bedroom for a couple of hours, the next weekend I'll send him out somewhere. I think he's terrified of being out with DS on his own.

Not sure any of that is helpful to read, I just started waffling - sorry!

Wow, no idea how I ended up posting that on this thread! It was meant for another thread. Oops.

Marking place as you fell off my TIO! Can't post now as I'm in dire need of a sneaky nap whilst T is asleep! Hope everyone is ok