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Stacks · 18/06/2013 19:45

This will be the thread where all brooking babies learn to self settle and sleep through the night (the real version, not that 5hr at a time thing).

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TheLittleFriend · 18/09/2013 21:12

Stacks that is so exciting! I presume you're getting lots more sleep now, if you're ready for another?! Despite J only being 7 months and a terrible sleeper, I still feel broody when I see newborns Shock No way will we be trying any time soon, but I'm pretty sure I'll want a dc3 at some point.

Loopyaboutmy2boys · 19/09/2013 06:52

Good luck stacks, I have 22 months between my 2 and it was bloody hard work, still is! But they have such a great bond already. Ds1's favourite thing at the moment is holding ds2's hands and helping him walk up and down the lounge as he can't walk unaided at the moment, so cute.

Still no AF here, will be 2 weeks tomorrow since we DTD, and still convinced in my mind that I could be pregnant. Sticking my head in the sand at the moment as can't see how we would cope and would mean ds2 only being 20 months ishwhen dc3 arrives rather than the 25 months we were intending and DH doesn't know yet my worries. (25 months heaps easier to communicate with than 20 months) Assuming I ovulated on the following Monday, am I right in thinking a FRER would work tomorrow?

EverythingIsTicketyBoo · 25/09/2013 13:29

Crikey, I had completely lost this thread, you haven't been that chatty of late. So how is everyone? Stacks how exciting you are ttc again, I have 3 lovely children now and I keep trying to tell myself and that's us all done Wink

Loopy are you ttc again too? I think a frer should work tommorow good luck!

Well I thought I would find you all again, it's nearly weaning time in the boo house and I've never done this while BFing (actually both boys were well on the way to being weaned by now) and have decided to BLW along side some mush and puree. We're 5 weeks away and I don't want my baby girl to grow up I feel a bit un prepared Wink

hinkyhonk · 25/09/2013 14:10

thought id drop back in here too. f is not speaking and not seeming inclined to start trying, i mean why bother when you have a mum who anticipates everything you do...

we are finally getting somw sleep after moving house which is a relief and ds1 seems to be settling into school ok which brings us to the next issue - do we go for no. 3 or not?

i'm pretty sure that i definitely do want another baby. when i imagine our future i see us as a family of three always but we're just getting onto a good track with the boys getting on better, us coping with two, i've lost the baby weight and everything running smoothly so what on earth am i thinking about no. 3 for?!

we have said that we won't make a decision until 2014 and we wouldn't start to ttc until march due to our history and a bonkers comment from a consultant that has stuck with me.

dh is not so keen as we've not had great luck so far with either of our boys health wise although all is fine now. some rude people think that we are mad to try for another given the things that have gone wrong for us in teh past but both those seem to be down to bad luck rather than linked.

sorry i guess i just wanted to get some thoughts down somewhere and i find it a bit difficult to discuss with rl people.

TheLittleFriend · 25/09/2013 19:17

Hurray, people are here posting! Lets get the thread going again!

Loopy, did you try a frer?

Boo, I wouldn't worry about being unprepared if its 5 wks away. That is a long time in the life of a baby, and there's not loads you can do before you start anyway :)

Hunky, glad to hear you've settled in to your new home. I think its common to feel you are upsetting the apple cart when you start ttc, as generally you wait til older children are at an 'easier' age. I know I am going to want a third dc at fine point, just hope ds has learnt to sleep by then!

We finally had ds's paediatrician appt today. His ranitidine has been upped and I have been given nutramigen formula so I can wean him off bfing. He will be having a skin prick test to check for allergy, though the dr is pretty sure it is just an intolerance.

How is everyone else? Green, Gen, Dino, are you all out there???

TheLittleFriend · 25/09/2013 19:17

Err, I meant hinky, not hunky Blush

hinkyhonk · 25/09/2013 19:59

I am totally hunky I'll have you know

GreenOlives · 25/09/2013 21:28

Waves to all. I'm still here little! Great news about paed appt finally! Hopefully J will improve nicely with the new formula and increased ranitidine and it may help with sleep too! Smile
Not posting much as my smart phone met with a watery grave so I can only catch up on the laptop at the mo. All is ok here, M is still waking lots at night and T is still sleeping like a baby (apart from this week - teething I think but no teeth yet!)
I'm off to Majorca on Friday for a 3 night hen do Shock Very excited and a little nervous about leaving the boys but DH will do fine I'm sure! Grin
All I can think of is sleep though but I'm fairly sure that will be in short supply this weekend - at least for a different reason than normal Wink

TheLittleFriend · 26/09/2013 06:39

Have you had M's paed appt yet Green?

Loopyaboutmy2boys · 26/09/2013 09:07

I am fairly certain that I was pregnant but lost it this week. Not trying to sound melodramatic or anything, just that I know my body. I never ever cramp unless its ovulation/implantation or stretching pains. I have never had period pains and I never have heavy periods. I had cramping that I thought was ovulation (which by the fact i have been bleeding must be true) and then cramping which would have been bang on for implantation. I then had a fall late last week, leant over a stair gate and it gave way and I crashed forward flat to the floor and was very shaken, which I guess may have caused the loss. I decided i wouldnt test until the Monday but then i had really bad pains Sunday night and started pink spotting (my periods never spot they just start with very deep red blood) and then had really bad cramps from Monday and the bleeding got extremely heavy, I was having to change tampons after an hour, and had to use a hot water bottle to try to ease the cramping. Still bleeding now but the pain seems to be easing. In a way something good has come of this, as DH is now fully committed to the idea of ttc from January for dc3, he was a bit uncertain until this all happened. So lesson learned, we will be very careful between now and January. The age gap will be much better, as if we were to have dc3 born oct 14 ds1 would be 4 the next month and ds2 would be 25months, which makes it easier for me to cope with 3 (DH is out of the house from 7.15-after the boys have gone to bed so I am basically a single mom in the week with no family at all nearby)

EverythingIsTicketyBoo · 26/09/2013 09:26

Oh Loopy :(Thanks

GreenOlives · 26/09/2013 09:48

little Yes we have had M's paed appt. All is well physically so it's probably a combination of his age, new sibling and an element of the trauma when we had to hold him down for the sutures on holiday. The doctor said to just keep reassuring him and sleep in his room for as long as he needs us to! We have bought him a bunk bed so now when he wakes in the night one of us goes in and sleeps on the bottom bunk. It's definitely helping as most nights he goes back to sleep quite quickly once he knows there's someone with him - it's just occasionally that we have 2 hours of him being wide awake and whispering to us! We are also giving him a magnesium supplement which does seem to have helped with him going back off to sleep again quickly after the wake ups.
loopy Sorry to hear that but good to have DH keen on ttc in the new year.

TheLittleFriend · 26/09/2013 13:30

Really sorry to hear that loopy, hope you're ok.

Green, the bunk beds sound like a brilliant idea. And good to know there is nothing physically wrong. Hope he grows out if the behaviour soon x

Loopyaboutmy2boys · 26/09/2013 20:01

Seriously all I'm fine about it. It wasn't like we were trying, or have gone through any fertility issues or delays like a lot of brookers, we were very lucky to fall pregnant with our boys first month of trying both times so i have no doubt we will have a dc3 in the future. If this one had made it then it would have been loved no matter what, but things happen for a reason and it might sound daft but waiting just those few months till January to try now means dc3 won't cripple us financially as i can secure maternity rights by then and I'm less likely to go crazy as that would have meant 3 children 3 and under. Plus with my issues with spd and sacroiliac joints that ongoing physio hasn't fixed, the more independent dc2 is when I am heavily pregnant the better! Especially as he already weighs 2 stone at 12 months! If it wasn't for my age I would never have children this close in age anyhow but it is what it is.

DreamingOfAFullNightsSleep · 28/09/2013 08:05

Hello everyone.

I'm glad you're ok loopy . I'm another who's been very lucky. I had one early loss before I got pg with dd, at 5 weeks, but then have been blessed with 3 healthy children from 2 pregnancies so I am lucky indeed. I still think of the early loss though, but I'm glad you're not absolutely devastated about it.

olives glad to hear the bunk beds help. I'm so soft if I thought it was trauma from being held for stitches and changes in his life I'd be in there til he begged me to leave him alone Blush . I think if it is that you going in will solve it the fastest though as that's the ultimate in reassurance surely?!

Night 7 of night weaning here. S is now almost 18 months. He weighs 10.3kg (clothed) He does not need 3-4 night feeds!!! He has made some improvements but is still a very. Long. Way from sleeping through . Oh, and he's not in his cot even for this, he's still co sleeping....

PetWoman · 29/09/2013 20:08

Loving Hunky Hinky! It doesn't sound like there's any reason to anticipate similar problems with another baby - how rude of someone to insinuate that there might be! Btw re talking, does DS1 interpret F for you? A friend's sons did that and apparently they never heard their second son talk if the first was there to do it for him! Glad all is more settled after the move. Roll on March and TTC number 3!

Stacks exciting about TTC number 2! What's T up to these days? Hope he's still sleeping well.

Loopy :( if you did lose a pregnancy, but at least you can now stick to your plan and hopefully conceive at a better time for your family. Was this your first AF since DS2? Could that be why it was different? DS1 sounds so cute helping DS2 to walk!

Little any improvements with DS's sleep since the medication was changed?

Green hope you had a great time in Majorca!

Dream what method are you using to night wean? How is S responding? No vomming, I hope. Is B sleeping through now?

All fine here. Loving my new job - the school and department are so much better and nicer than the last place. Though I'm meant to be marking now - oops. DS is still co-sleeping and night feeding but we seem to be mostly getting enough sleep so I'm not stressing about it any more. And occasionally he has good nights when he only feeds a couple of times, which makes me think he may will cut down eventually. Right?! He is talking, but not properly: 'bu' for bus, 'eesh' for fish and so on. And still only 6 teeth (and a fang cutting through) at 18 months! I am too busy to worry though. He mostly seems a happy, bright boy so I figure these things will develop in their own time. :)

Stacks · 30/09/2013 13:28

Hello everyone! Fully intending on posting more often and keeping up with the thread from now on.

T has started crawling, but doesn't seem to want his independence. If I put him down among his toys and walk away, he just crawls over to me, climbs up me and insists I walk him back over to his toys, where he'll stand holding my hand and bend over to play with his toys while standing! His crawl is super cute though, and he walks with his walker and had such an adorable bum waddle Grin
We're getting 10-11 hours a night consistently, though he can slip into bad habits quite easily. He goes down at 7 and up at between 5 and 6, however his waking tends to get earlier and earlier over a week or so till it hits 3/4am and we have to do a bit of CC again. Next night he'll sleep til 6 or 7 again. This morning he did 7-5, played happily in his cot while I desperately tried to be asleep, then fed him and put him back down at 6 and we overslept till 8! DH had to rush around to get to work on time.
He's been really sleepy the last couple of days, with 2 hour morning naps and being tired again an hour or so after waking. Unfortunately he'll only sleep in my arms during the day again. I tried CC and gave up after an hour or more of non stop screaming, unfortunately he was overtired then, so it was 3 hours of screaming before I got him sleeping. :( I'm hoping it's just another phase that'll pass soon. He feeds to sleep but wakes up on transfer and just screams, yet at night I can put him down awake and leave and he won't cry at all Hmm.

He's whinging and rubbing his eyes again, so time for another nap I think. Will try to catch up again today and comment on other people's news.

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TheLittleFriend · 30/09/2013 18:54

Stacks, really glad to hear you're getting 10-11 hrs a night now. We 're starting cc tomorrow as J is waking every 1-2 hrs and we are miserable. Will try to check in again later

DreamingOfAFullNightsSleep · 30/09/2013 23:13

Hello all,

Good luck little, hope it helps.

We decided together we will never be able to do cc, either from a vomming point of view and waking B (dd doesn't wake but he almost always does) or emotional one for us. We did sleep train, night 10 tonight. DH took him away for 3 nights. My mum has a static caravan 10 min from us which she bought after I had the dts. It meant we could definitely succeed at night weaning this time. Which we have. However, it has not improved his sleep much. He did one amazing night, of 7:30-5, but every other night he wakes between 11-1am, and then frequently from then til the morning. Can't resettle him in his cot, so still co sleeping. It has helped his appetite in the day, which will hopefully help build up his iron stores. Not managed to get the iron meds down yet, he voms them up!

Anyway, glad you're getting some sleep stacks and hope you're in that camp soon little. Wonderful about the new job pet As for me, I know s will never be a good sleeper, but hope we will continue gently persuading him into his cot, and I'll live with the wakings- no choice really!

Stacks · 07/10/2013 11:39

I'm fed up with T today. I know I shouldn't complain as he sleeps so well at night now. Daytime naps re a constant source of frustration though. Why will tired babies not sleep?

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EverythingIsTicketyBoo · 08/10/2013 08:25

You all fell off my threads Shock

How is everyone? Me and K are trying to get rid of thrush at the mo, it's a stubborn bloody bacteria!! Getting her ready for moving into her bot bed too, she'll be sharing with C :) We're also gearing up for the big wean Grin she is starting to look more ready, watching us eat and pretend chewing with us too :) can't believe she's getting so big!

What's news with all you?

GenericDietCola · 11/10/2013 10:52

Hello! It's a bit quiet in here lately and I haven't been finding much time to post.

Boo, so exciting re weaning! I felt really anxious both times with mine, but in actual fact they took to it really well. DS loves feeding himself and eats loads. Hope the thrush clears up soon.

Little how is the cc going?

Dream well done on the night weaning. Brooking that better sleep follows.

Stacks, great that T sleeps so well at night now! Brooking his day time naps improve. We have the opposite problem. He sleeps well for naps, but still wakes at night and I usually end up feeding. I'm now thinking he sleeps better in the travel cot, so may move the normal cot out and use the travel cot all the time. He likes snuggling up against the side of it.

Pet I'm glad your new job is giong well Smile

Loopy sorry to hear re your loss, but wishing you the best of brooking for January.

Olives glad M is well and hope the sleep problems improve very soon.

Hinky I don't know your background re health problems, but am brooking you have plain sailing with DC3 if and when you decide to try.

All good here. DS now over 9 months, crawling, pulling to stand (well trying to) and babbling away. Lots of fun!

GreenOlives · 13/10/2013 22:04

marking place, will try and post properly soon! Smile

Stacks · 18/10/2013 09:48

Time to get back on the thread. It's a real shame it's so quiet these days, but it's hard to find time to post with LOs.

T is doing well, naps are still a bit of an issue, but not too bad really. He's stopped sleeping through the night though :( Just this week, waking 3-5 times a night got no apparent reason. Hoping whatever it is will pass by next week.

As you've probably seen somewhere already, I got a real BFP yesterday, so we're expecting DC 2. Due date should be end of June, but we'll see at the first scan, as I'm not really sure when I ovulated. Tiny bit scared/nervous, trying to keep that in check alongside excitement.

How's everyone else?

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EverythingIsTicketyBoo · 18/10/2013 18:06

It is very quiet over here isn't it, you nearly dropped off my threads again Shock

K has started weaning (much to my horror) I actually feel very proud that I did the 6 months (give or take a week) EBF, and she has taken to food so well, she loves it :) So far her faves are mini sweetcorn, chicken and banana. Broccoli didn't go down so wellbut the organix banana biscuits got very well gummed indeed and she has been having a bit of puree along side her BLW stuff. She is also looking at everything we're eating with hope on her face Grin so far she has only been having food in the evening, from tomorrow she will be having breakfast too.

Stacks I meant to ask, how old is T now? SO pleased for you getting your BFP :):)

Evening everyone else, how are you all doing?