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November 2012 - The weaning adventure continues

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StuntNun · 14/06/2013 19:25

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1772925-November-2012-Adventurous-eaters-food-refusers-and-everything-in-between

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MsJupiterJones · 17/06/2013 22:27

Ooh we had salmon tonight too! I didn't know it was good for calcium.

I'd really like a simple guide to nutrition and what foods are good sources of which vitamins, minerals, protein etc so I can make sure we are getting a well rounded diet. If anyone has a recommendation please share.

That's tough news Izzy, hope the Neocate works out.

Det that sounds revolting! Was it really nice?

I think coconut milk is fine Pidj, one of the popular dairy substitute milks is Koko which is made from coconuts.

PetiteRaleuse · 17/06/2013 22:28

I have put on a ridiculous amount of weight the last week and I still have three more days of Englush food to scoff. Not forgetting the stuff I'm taking home :)

Discovered Matalan and Dunelm Mill (sp?) today. Wow. Good job there is a limit in my in car space.

Elizadoesdolittle · 17/06/2013 22:30

stunt Hope you have a better night. It sounds like it would take some going to have a worse one than last night!

PetiteRaleuse · 17/06/2013 22:31

I don't have the book here but there is a great AK salmon recipe which dd1 loved.

LO has cracked weaning, but I discovered today that trifle is too rich for her. Custard vom, yum :o

Night all.

GTbaby · 17/06/2013 22:34

I can't remember what AK is Blush

GTbaby · 17/06/2013 22:35

Annaba Karmel. Will head to library to pick up book

YellowWellies · 17/06/2013 22:38

MM it was really good. The photography team were amazing at capturing lots of images per 5 - 10 second underwater swim and pulling themselves out of shot super quick without disturbing water or baby for the shot - so quite a faff! He did 4 swims with no upset despite total nap avoidance. They also had a neutral backdrop and lighting rigs - so I'm not sure how a homemade version would compare. The prices are daft but the in laws are paying as a father's day pressie for DH. £60 per pic is crazy. Ads has an underwater camera and housing (I think) if you want to borrow it?

Oh I meant to say the downside of salmon is that it makes your baby smell rank!

TheDetective · 17/06/2013 22:40

Annabel Karmel or whatever her name is GT!

JJ It filled a massive cake shaped hole in my life, by about 1/10th lol! I'd do them again, but I'd rather have cake, thanks!!

PR Envy. Tut. I want foods. Good foods. Yummy foods. WAAAAAAH!

I have a confession to make. I can't give O fish. I just can't do it. I have a fish phobia. I'd not only not be able to cook it, or give it to him. I'd not be able to hold him, cuddle him, kiss him, without being affected. I'm that bad. I just can't. Couldn't with DS1. He doesn't like fish now, after trying some when he was older. Assume it is my fault. And I feel bad. But I just can't do it. Mental block. Even DP doesn't eat it because I won't come near him for a long time after. Blush Blush Blush Sounds so childish. But I've been this way as long as I can remember. And worse from the time my mums ex husband forced salmon in my mouth. I ran away from home after that, when I was 11.

TheDetective · 17/06/2013 22:43

Kirrin You just described our recent nights to a tee. Down to the scratching, pulling, hitting, and general fuss making and arching. Then when you think you have finally got him to sleep, and lower to the cot, round 2/3/4/5/6/7/8/100 starts all over again.

He only learned to fucking self settle properly 3 bastarding weeks ago. FFS!

Passmethecrisps · 17/06/2013 22:44

Hola wimmens and mans.

pikz I loved your post earlier about L never being happier. Awesome, awesome, awesome.

Hi 5 to yellowbear. Good job wee man. Good job.

Any word from izzy? Saw on Facebook that things were pretty busy with the paed. Would be good to hear the full story.

We had a lovely day in the end after my blubbing about napping. I spoke to our new childminder on the phone and ended up spilling all my anxieties about sleep and feeding. She was very relaxed but also really reassuring about it all. She advise just leaving P a bit longer between naps and seeing how she coped. Well, I did this and after a tense wee while after my parents arrived where I was clock watching and thinking she must need a nap P just rallied and did really well.

Ok.

I just took a 1.5 hour break in the middle of posting. Anything could have happened!!

izzybizzybuzzybees · 17/06/2013 22:46

I posted a shortish version pass! You mistake missed it!

izzybizzybuzzybees · 17/06/2013 22:46

Must have not mistake missed it!

Kyzordz · 17/06/2013 22:49

gt sounds like you're having no fun at all! Fh sounds like he's being a real knobber!! Hugs

lily please feel free to vent on here whenever you need to, huge hugs, I can't begin to imagine what you're going through

No advice for day naps pass but hope you get them sorted soon. With e he is awake longer now he's older and usually does 2.5-3 hours now and then has a nap and if I try to put him down too awake like we have trouble. Perhaps if you try to keep her awake a tiny bit more and see what happens?

izzy my mum has reflux wedges for elyza and they seem to help her :)

Hope you feel better soon evil

jj the ak book is good and so are the blw books. I have lots of books and still don't know what I'm doing and they do have stuff about nutrition, the ak one looks pretty good, I think I need to have another read through

chasing not unreasonable, babies cry! Was she saying it in jest? Glad o liked salmon! E liked cod but not salmon, or perhaps it's the tomato based sauce it was in... Who knows?! I could try a different one I guess, or I froze four portions of that so I could try once every so often and see.

bplp e likes pear too, I've never given it other than a wee bit of pear juice in water to drink on an odd occasion, and pear purée or a whole pear with a bite out of to gnaw on. I need to trust him with pear in other ways but god knows how you cook one to make it suitable for him to eat!

pp he eats like a horse!! Have not tried rice here yet but tbh with how he eats I doubt he'd like it. Can but try though I suppose!

Today hasn't been too bad eating wise, he had a fruit pot and 2 scoops breakfast, offered toast and banana too but he didn't really eat either, lunch was puréed broccoli and cauliflower with sweet potato and he wouldn't touch it but did have a chew on some chicken and green beans and ate some custard off a spoon. I was late with tea so did him a Heinz steamed pot thing, 190g thing of sweet potato pork and apple and he ate at least half plus a yoghurt! Off a spoon! Ok so it's not home cooking but it's food! This is progress right?

Been a busy day today and I really hope everyone gets a good night sleep, night 4 of sleeping hopefully without a df, so I'm gonna grab a bit of shut eye I think! I might pick lo up some more of the steam pot things, if he likes them I will feed them and we can go from there, but I'll keep trying with proper home cooked things too and hope we get a healthy balance!

Hugs and g'night

Elizadoesdolittle · 17/06/2013 22:52

Think pass was busy scoffing pizza when you updated izzy.

Oh I meant to say to pikz I loved your post earlier too. Such a happy post. Twas lovely to read.

izzybizzybuzzybees · 17/06/2013 23:24

It looks that way doesn't it eliza? I'm jealous! No pizza for me now as dairy free from tomorrow. I'm channeling yellowwellies if she can do it for her J I can do it for mine!

ChasingDaisy · 17/06/2013 23:39

I wish I knew why O doesn't sleep well. I have no idea what to do to try and fix things.

FatimaLovesBread · 18/06/2013 00:04

Evening/Morning all!
I've been meaning to post all day but I've got a baby that you can't take an eye off at the moment. She also seems to have regressed Sad
Took 2 hours to get her to sleep tonight.

Will post properly tomorrow

LuisGarcia · 18/06/2013 00:45

I wish I knew why O doesn't sleep well.

Because he's a baby.

YellowWellies · 18/06/2013 01:30

Apologies but begging to disagree there Luis Chasing if your wee ones sleep is extremely disrupted ie they sleep minutes not hours and it takes hours to get them to sleep - there is often a medical reason. Don't dismiss not sleeping as normal or proof you need to instigate sleep training until you've kept a food diary to see if there is an intolerance. Extreme sleep issues like Izzy's J are rarely just behavioural - babies want to sleep for longer than 20 minutes normally other than in the midst of a growth spurt or teething. It would be useful to understand what a typical O night is like sleep wise?

LuisGarcia · 18/06/2013 01:30

Maybe that was a bit dismissive, sorry. J is 2 3/4, and was 2.2 when L was born. He hadn't slept well in that 2.2 years, and until maybe March this year they were both as bad as each other. I've barely slept in a bed since mid 2010. It's mostly been floors and chairs.

The thing is, what became obvious over time is J has high needs. And that my kids don't sleep well. And that society's expectations are wacky. And that they are babies. They don't mean it, and they are not being mean, it's just sleep is hard. And unless you are Izzy, time helps more than you think.

There may not be a fix other than accepting you're doing everything to help him that you can already.

LuisGarcia · 18/06/2013 01:34

interesting cross post

YellowWellies · 18/06/2013 01:37

Though Chasing if O's sleeplessness was an issue prem weaning its unlikely to be an intolerance (he's FF isn't he?) - if he's not screeching in pain its unlikely to be CMPI.... you'd definitely have noticed more symptoms than just sleeplessness. He's not got smelly vom, back arching, lots of vom, choking noises in his throat, fighting feeds etc?

YellowWellies · 18/06/2013 01:38

Pre weaning - fecking autocorrect... Wink

YellowWellies · 18/06/2013 01:44

High needs definitely is an option to consider - but IMHO make sure its not pain first. V 'colicky' babies seem IME to often have reflux or CMPI rather than being high needs or overstimulated though they fit the description of both.

Luis since 2010???!!!

Right rolling bear now righted in cot - back to bed.... (am loving this development leap!)

Bryzoan · 18/06/2013 01:47

Realised today that hovis best of both bread has no dairy - and added calcium. G was in heaven with that and humous (sp?). Yw - how are you giving the tinned salmon?