March 2013: Smiles, sleep & excellent feeding.....the thread of wishful thinking!

[SoYo]

Well we may as well start the thread on a positive note before the grumbling about the little darlings begins!!!

Much as I want to come on here and read how everyone's nipples are perky and happy, babies are gurgling contentedly on their play mats, sleeping through the night and eating gallons it is kind of reassuring to hear that everyone else in baby land is going through same stuff and wondering same things with regards possible answers.
Bottle fussiness (understatement) and changing poo habits here too.
Anyhow, had nice picnic in bluebell woods today with another hypno birthing couple and their baby. Three al fresco feeds? Check! They were the hoody hoiked up, belly out, not very sophisticated type but baby didn't care. The national trust crowd looked a bit stunned though.
Anyone still going to watch voice now blind auditions over? Or have I admitted to already?
Dd in bed, I'm in bath, dh making risotto, going to open my first bottle of wine soon :-) I'll probably fall asleep on sofa as per....

Yes leni it could be the dreaded six week growth spurt. Apparently if you can get through six weeks BFing then it's a lot better afterwards. DD has also discovered muscles in her little arms so I'm getting lots of pushing and pummelling of the boobs but no kicking yet, although if her feet are next to the sofa arm, she'll push herself off it. I'd forgotten how much they can do at six weeks.

The bottles are getting harder to give here. I think it might be though because she's knackered and in the witching hour anyway but taking advice from above ^^ I tried to give it to her when ash was out of the room with lots of eye contact and singing to her and it was better. BT the whole point is for others to be able to feed her so I don't want to be the one bottle feeding her too!

It was hard trying to work out where the teat goes in her mouth too. Just the end, held in her lips or with as wide a mouth as she takes the nipple? I don't remember being at all with DS!

ash = DH

Yeah Eco it's so reassur g t

Worsester glad it's normal then?! I thought maybe the levonelle was to blame...
Wing my DS sucks bottles pretty much the same as boobs, lips right down almost to the base of the teat.

Eco - i was asked to go on The Voice this series but said no!

Ahem. Bastard phone.

It's reassuring to come on here and know we're all experiencing similar problems. Makes me that we're 100% normal.

Wing we just offer the end of the teat. DS sucks as much into his mouth as he needs to. At least he does when he's behaving.

Am now a bit worried that I've not yet had a period, and that we've been using the fucking stupid withdrawal method. Method my arse! I know I said I wanted another but...but.... I stopped BFing nearly 7 weeks ago!! Where the hell is it? Having a silent panic in the bath, really don't want to alert DP!

Also Leni :

1. If all four judges turned round, who would you pick?
2. Can you go on it next year so we can put a face to the name/experience your talent? Pleeeeease?

Leni, you were asked to go on the Voice?! Wow! Does that mean it's all a bloody fix?

Plonko, where's SoYo when you need her

I've just realised that that sentence I wrote in my post could have been lifted from a porn story?! I think that's where it's proving slightly difficult in that I'm not sure DD knows how to drink from the bottle but that's the point of keeping trying her with it, isn't it? DH is out at the footy again tomorrow afternoon/night (well, I couldn't not let him go to Fergie's last match and see the trophy presentation) so it'll be down to me to try to give it to her again. I'll be asking for luck!

It took me half hour of swaddled feeding earlier and she went down at 9ish. I am determined to wake her for a feed at 10:30 tonight!

Gosh, impressed Leni!

Having a panicky day today. Think it's because DH not been around much lately and I don't trust his 'don't worries' as he doesn't really know what normal looks like at the moment and I think it's changed... Worried my supply is dropping again now I'm off the Domperidone and that having got him almost exclusively bfing, he is now not getting enough and even possibly going a bit jaundiced again as a result. I know I could phone docs or health visitors, but worried I am either A - paranoid or B- not paranoid. Does that make any sense? No, not really... I know. Jabs on tues so will talk to docs then.

In the meantime I seem to have accidentally put him to bed early tonight, what was supposed to be a pre bath nap turned into the most angelic deep sleep which I didn't like to disturb. So now trying to pump and do dream feed as otherwise he'll be too long without or waking up at stupid times. Wish me luck...

Good luck pud! You could well be paranoid but always best to get these things checked out? Don't forget, pumped amounts are no real indication of amounts actually being produced...

I heard DD stirring over the monitor at 10 and I reckoned it's be easier to wake her if she's in a period of lighter sleep as opposed to trying to wake her at 10:30 regardless so I've just changed and reswaddled her and am now giving her (hopefully) a last feed for a few hours. She's definitely falling asleep on me again but at least she's had 7 mins so far.

Hope you all have good nights...

Hi ladies. I feel a bit sheepish joining this so late- I've been lurking since shortly after my DD was born 7/3/2013, 37+2, 6lb1oz, but for some reason I never joined in and then it got too late iykwim... Anyway, wanted to say you lot have kept me going! It's so nice knowing others are going through the same thing, especially bloody bfing which still makes me grumpy 9 weeks in! 3am wouldn't be the same, so I hope you don't mind me butting in now? :)

leni no nothing here, was expecting something now I am giving a bit of formula but so far nothing. My doctor did say something though that in about 80 per cent of women who bf no periods, so that would be 20 per cent who have some?

Re periods. I've only just begun one now because I've started back up on the pill and it's 12 weeks so don't stress too much yet plonko. There was no sign of them before that so I think they begin again at different times for different people.

same as plonko here with the bottle teat. I put it near his lips and he sucks it in himself. It all goes in like a latch on the boob.

THings here are slowly getting better. LO is on a stupid amount of drugs but is much happier. Now he's hit 12 weeks I'm praying it will gradually start to get better as his body gears up for weaning. uh oh speak of the waking baby, bottle time.

vjhist85 welcome! I agree this group has kept me sane too... You me plonko and stormy all have babies v close in age! wingd after failed naps all day we had a spectacular failed bedtime but she went down at 9.30. Hubbie going to dream feed at 11 anyway ...

Plonko, ridiculously irregular is norm for up to 6 months even if you had never breastfed. However, you can get pregnant from day 21 (rare but I've definitely seen it) & the withdrawal method isn't very effective! If I were you I'd pee on a stick just to put my mind at rest. So unlikely but best be sure! Sorry to not be more reassuring!

Wing we got her down to bed ok at 8.30 but at 9 she woke screaming the place down & it took bloody ages to settle her. She's now asleep on my chest & I can feel the drool dribbling down into my bra....lovely!

I'm going for dinner with friends on Wednesday (yay) & the restaurants at the bottom of my road so was planning to feed Miss Madam then try to leave her for a couple of hours but just realised DH is on nights. Looks like she'll be joining the party!

This is definitely a good thread for keeping sanity, as much as we all wish ours was the perfect baby, it's good to know nobody has one so we're all in it together!

Catching up on some Grey's before bed while Madam snoozes. At least all is quiet while the milk supplies get chance to regenerate!

Thanks for the advice SoYo, looks like ill be off to the chemist on Monday then. I've told DP so panic shared. Good luck with your meal, I hope dd behaves for you.

Zig did you start the pill to kick start things? I've got a prescription but been advised to wait until the first day of my period. You'd have thought after taking them for 8 years I'd have it sussed.

pud I'm of the opinion that a mothers instinct is best not ignored. You know your baby best. Hope all is well but if it means going back on the meds to fix it at least you know it works.

vjhist85 hello! Can I offer you a glass of ?

Thanks for the warm welcome! plonko I'd love a glass or 5, thanks. Was meant to be going out tonight (second time since dd was born) but she had a major meltdown, fairly unusual for her so couldn't bring myself to leave...

Very quick intro to us then I must go to sleep as she's sparko! 2 years ttc due to PCOS, then got BFP the month I was supposed to be starting clomid! Lovely 5 hr sneeze birth, managed 30 mins in the pool-bliss, 2 pushes and there she was... Great until the retained placenta, heavy blood loss and brutal hour long d&c with epidural! Since then our trials and tribulations have been similar to yours, feeding comes and goes and tends to regress just as I feel I've got the hang of things, DH is lovely but useless, away with work a lot, and acts like a glorified babysitter when he's here. Sleep at night is pretty good and we've just dropped the dream feed (tried to get her to drop 3am but she was having none of it, woke up at 3am whether she fed at 10 or not!) and we're very slowly getting the hang if daytime napping but only using techniques that would definitely be frowned upon!

Anyway, bedtime for me, see you all at 3am!

Welcome VJ wow, are you all healed after your birth experience?

Re The Voice - yes it's basically all a fix! They saw me on another TV show and 'scouted' me. Doing a show like that would ruin my career, anyone worth their salt who's worked hard playing the toilet venues and spending every last hard earned penny on music as well as working full time will tell you that winning a show like that is more a death sentence than a prize unless you want to be a puppet that is... (I know, controversial eh?!).

So I needn't have bothered with the levonelle then! Damn. I read a few stories of ladies falling pg 4 weeks after birth and panicked frankly it would be a miracle anyway but everyone keeps saying that after you do it once, the body suddenly figures it out and a natural conception is much more likely.

Soyo do you think this heavy bleed is the Levonelle perhaps?

My hormones are anything but normal so it doesn't surprise me I'm in the 20% who get periods whilst BFing. Shame periods don't mean eggs really or I'd be very fertile!

I wish there was a way to keep some eggs now if there are any, without needing surgery and £7K... DS is so gorgeous and it's hard always thinking each milestone is the first and last I'll get to experience. Hard work as it is I'd do it again in a heartbeat!

On third feed of the night already - Ewan the sheep has gone all distorted so it's like trying to sleep through Bladerunner.
Tiiiiiired.... DS can shift himself around the cot so putting him feet to end seems useless, much more physically able than I was!

Yes, up for 3am feed and she is back in cot. Fingers crossed we get to at least 6 am tomorrow morning.....

Dream feed total failure - tried to actually do a bottle feed but he wouldn't suckle enough (with the Medela bottles he does have to suck) so ended up waking him and having the biggest feed ever!

Now up again (!) I genuinely think he wakes more often when DH is in with us and he's been a nightmare to sleep next to tonight even for me as tossing and turning makes bed creak.

Another TV show eh... anything still available online? Who knew we had a schleb in our virtual midst.

Poor Ewan, he's becoming part of an android sleep cycle is he? Always loved the book title... Right, think little man might be losing focus in favour of gong sleepy...

Leni I think we may be in middle of six week growth spurt too. Every two hours during day and up twice so far tonight. Dd just very 'thrashy' during her feed and my right boob feels violated!
Vjh welcome! Is dd your first? Envious of sneeze birth! It is a tiring old game isn't it? And you're further on than me.
Wing interesting that you are giving the bottle. And that you had some success. Books suggest banishing mummy many rooms away. I've not tried offering bottle myself. Maybe that's worth a go. I'd like to.
Pud each time I've asked doc or hv things (and started with 'I'm probably being cautious but can you tell me if...' they have been very reassuring and have said with young babies they'd much rather be consulted about our concerns. Yes because babies are delicate but also because they don't want new mums worrying. So I'd say just get things checked out.
I am so tired I'm going to check out now and allow my eyelids to close. May we all now sleep through til at least eight!

Morning all and welcome vj! (Anyone else keep forgetting this is all public?!

Sorry to hear some of you are having rubbish nights. Thankfully out dream feed worked and although I bloomin woke up at 1:30, 2 something and 3 something, DD went through till 4 :) But even then I got her up when she was just straining in her swaddle and making noises - DH and I discussed putting her in her own room earlier than we did with DS (12 weeks) because I'm possibly getting her up too early

And v interesting Leni with the insider knowledge!

Plonko will we have a live POAS tomorrow?!

Argh no sleep for me supposed to be braving the tube fir the first time and BFing in public for the first time tomorrow - please universe let DS sleep!! No poo tonight, just a green tinged skid mark, lovely.

TV show was a doc on the BBC so not remotely schleby... Probably the most exciting thing I've done was live Sky News! Had my face airbrushed and seriously wish I could do that at home, makes one look flawless Almost like a shop dummy in fact. A bit odd now I think about it...

Urgh, my brain hurts.