January 2013 - part 3 - where we have to stop them rolling off the changing mats!

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Ok, here we go with the new thread - we got to exactly 1000! Hope everyone enjoyed this balmy day. I got Felix out loads in the buggy :)

Re: tummy time, my DS hates just lying on his front in the floor but is quite happy on his front across my lap - I guess he can see more! So that might be option for others?

Meringue I know what you mean about dreading napping. Sometimes DS goes down on the first yawn and sleeps according to the routine perfectly. Other times no amount of yawn catching, rocking, swaying, nursing, hair dryer blasting (!) will settle him
Talking of rude people, a friend of a friend was out with her DD recently when an old lady came over and said 'I'm just sprinkling some good behaviour dust on her' (DD) and did 'the actions' too

God that's brilliant Creepy! :)

at the good behaviour lady Woody. Did it work??

Meringue what book you following about 90 mins etc?? I follow Gina Ford but Ds never stays awake for the times he "should" - he still sleeps really well at night though, so he's obviously on the right track.

Happy I hope your day got better & u have a good night to make up for it - well done on still getting out when you having a day like that!!

Must be honest - I LOVE routine...DH had to go out to a black tie event tonight - both kids are fast asleep (1 will sleep till 7, the other till 6:30ish with a dream feed at 9:30/10)...I'm getting out some chocolate, putting on masterchef and completely ignoring the housework until after my hot bubble bath...It's been hard work getting the DC to this stage, but so worth it (for me - I know routine isn't for everyone!!)

Got viewings for houses lined up - really excited coz I hate this house and can't wait to find a better one in a area that suits us. Just sucks having to stay on top of housework for viewing here (so I can't go to bed without a tidy just in case)... maybe a good thing

I had to go out for my own sanity! He woke up the second I took him out if the car but has been in a very good mood since then, chatting and giggling away. He is now feeding every 2 hrs since then though so think the growth spurt is hitting. Might explain some of this mornings behaviour.

Hubby and his friend are trying to lay laminate in the hall. So looking forward to actually having flooring down so that my slippers don't get trashed even more! For hubby being a trained joiner and his mate being a decorator, they are making such a song and dance about it... Hubby is very particular about finishes though so I suspect that's most of the problem.

Sounds like a lovely night ahead of you Louise! I haven't been able to have a bath since I did my back in when B was 8 weeks old and that was at 1am to try and relieve some of the pain. I'd love a relaxing bath...

Sorry Happy

Me and DS have had such a lovely day today (he's been full of giggles and smiles all day) so much so that as DH is away I've been naughty and kept him snuggling sleeping with me, how sad is that.

We had our first roll over today, I was giving him a bit of tummy/naked time (I read somewhere on mums net that they can roll over better this way, it was the first time I tried it) I went upstairs to run his bath came down to check on him and he was rolled over looking a little shocked, lol! Gutted I missed it (relieved I hadn't left him on the sofa like I normally do, naughty mummy) I tried to sneakily record him by leaving the iPad on video why I snuck around the corner but he was having none of doing if again, lol!

I'm the same with loving the cuddles - hubby calls me a snuggle monster but every other mum tells me to enjoy this time so that's what I'm doing!

They are babies for such a short time - get your cuddles in while you can girls!!

What rude people you've been coming across! Creepy Molly is also breastfed and sleeps 9.30-7 (although this morning she did a poonami at 5.30 so we got an early start followed by a mega-nap to catch up).

I'm with you on routine Louise. It's amazing to be able to plan a bit sometimes... and when the DCs are both asleep after a hectic day, that tastes so good

Bernie that's hilarious - babies don't wait for us to watch to reach their milestones do they? I'll have to try naked tummy time and get my little one rolling. I actually remembered about tummy time today (thanks to you lot ) and she mainly looked surprised, but did her best to shuffle forward, pushing her little feet against my hands. So cute.

Have a great night everyone

Ah Bernie that's so sweet! I can't wait till mine rolls or giggles.

I drove to London to see DP for lunch and some friends for tea.
Lunch was supposed to be a relaxing picnic in the park. What it actually was, was LO screaming like a banshee, refusing the boob, and either I or DP pushing him round the picnic blanket in circles while the other ate. All nearby lunchers vacated quite quickly....

However at tea he was very well behaved! But then I spent an hr on the North End Rd stuck in traffic and he howled all the way back to the M3....

Hey ho!

Creepy / Woody can't believe those women said/did that. I am however extremely jealous of babies that sleep, mine has been close to going on ebay.

Apples loving the chat story, so cute. Lois is a real talker too which I just love. She bobs off the breast smiles, babbles then pops back on, makes me giggle.

Lois did a classic in the doc's this morn, it was maternity day and she proceeded to have an all gun's blazing screaming fit. The look of doom dawned on many a face and naughty of me, but i did say out loud that she doesn't sleep either.

Got baby sensory tomorrow and then have to rush off to do a fun run walk with DD1 at school. Hoping it doesn't rain as I want to put Lois in the baby bjorn but report is not looking good.

I didn't realise before that some people were getting their babies' height measured! It's never, ever been offered by the HV, but I would be curious as DD is sliding down the percentile chart for weight, and have realised I have no idea whatsoever if she's tall, short or medium. Anyone got any advice for how to do it reasonably accurately at home?

Saw a different HV today and in response to the drop on the chart she said I should be feeding more at night - last 2 nights DD has slept 9pm - 5am approximately and don't fancy waking her up! Am trying to BF every 2.5/3 hours during the day - hope this is enough to get her to maintain weight.

Sorry you encountered a rude person Creepy - I think for a lot of people things such as sleeping, feeding etc are very sensitive subjects, hence the tetchy response. I'm very encouraged on your sleeping/through BF progress myself as hoping to get there myself one day as am certain the last two nights have been a fluke

Lostbobbles loving your meltdown in the surgery! I would have been v tempted to play it up too

Louise I would love some routine too but as you say can't force it. Also I'm not going to set my alarm for seven am and get us both up if we've been up already feeding and resettling from five to six am!

Am "informed by" both GF and the Baby Whisperer but not trying to rigidly follow as too hard. He can only manage about 90 mins of awake time before he needs another nap and he definitely still needs am afternoon nap around 4pm or will be very tired and cranky in evening. Sometimes he will not settle until after the dream feed been bringing that forward slightly as suspect my milk supply may be low in evenings and he is not full enough to sleep.

Eagle we've only had height measured at hospital as HV doesn't do it here either. At hospital they have a mat with two sliding walls, they sort of stretch baby out and push the bottom wall til it meets baby's feet to take a measurement. So you could do it at home with a metre stick, or a stiff tape measure.

A miracle has happened!! DD slept from 8.30pm - 7.45am!!!!
I'm going to ignore the fact that DS wet the bed at 4am and had to do a full change

Also felt quite sorry for DS this morning, DD nailed her bottle, she must have been starving after her long sleep, then projectiled it all up over poor DS, all 3 of us were covered in sick! ........ Cue massive meltdown from DS!

louise I kind of like the fact that dd has no set routine as it means that we can go places at different times of the day without worrying about whether it fits with her routine. I read the Gina ford book but thought it sounded v restrictive, plus dd needs to be fed more often, and sleep more, than gf suggests, or she would be miserable.

dd has fallen into a pattern of eat, play, sleep, by herself, with each cycle lasting around three hours. I can tweak it a little bit by waking her for food early if we need to go out at a specific time.

eagle our HV normally only weighs babies too, but last time I went I asked her to measure dd's head and she did. maybe yours will measure height if you ask her?

x post lolli , of your sleep, although not of the projectile vomming.

I'm sorry Lolli but the bombing story made me giggle. Your poor son!

We had movement last night! I had B on a towel on the floor massaging him and left him lying there after. He then did a bum/back shuffle that took him round in a circle! It was brilliant. Should've taken a video.

B's height got measured at his 8 wk injections but hasn't been done since. He's just been weighed all other times.

Don't worry, it was a comedy moment! DD found it hilarious,
DS is still not impressed !

D has been wet through to his sleeping bag every morning this week. Guess we're back to middle-of-the-night nappy changes for a bit.

Congrats Lolli! On the sleep, not the spew... your poor little boy!

bugsy my take on routine is exactly what you are talking about - a little cycle of eat, play, sleep, change. I don't stick to a fixed timetable - if she wakes at 6, that's when the routine starts, if she wakes at 7.30, then everything gets shifted by 90 mins. It's nice to know what to expect, but to have room for flexibility. I find GF very restrictive too, but all these theories are just out there for us to pick and choose from. What suits one baby and mum won't suit the next.

eagle here in Belgium they always measure weight, height and head size. If you have a tape measure, just put it on the floor, get someone to hold the baby's head still at 0 and see what you get.

happy the bum shuffle in a circle sounds like a classic... brilliant.

Sleep! Can someone remind me what that is?

Pascha if its just wee double the nappy

pascha we're the same. When she used to sleep 9 HOURS in a row with one feed, no nappy changes needed. Now we're at 3 or 4 feeds a night she gets soaked through. I'm bloody knackered!

eagle I wouldn't bother measuring if I was you. But if you want to, remove all clothes and nappy, line her up with her head against a hard surface and stretch one leggie out. Then mark with a pencil and measure when you've moved her and got her dressed again. It'll always be approximate though as sometimes their heads aren't quite flat or the leggy isn't stretched out fully.

creepy I love that you were able to say you're breastfeeding too, must have removed her smugness! Although, I guess if I was still getting up every 2 hours I'd be a bit jel of your full nights sleep! Which makes me wonder, what on earth is your secret?! Tell us your routine in the day - maybe we can copy what you do

lolli that's very funny!

Everyone - I attempted a dream feed last night. Picked her up, got all ready......the little mouth and eyes stayed firmly shut. Back in cot, fast asleep. Awake and starving two hours later :(

I try to do the same Angie, only problem is I keep getting it wrong eg today I'd planned to pop him in the car when nap due as we had an appointment. But then weather was nice so decided to hang washing out first. Fifteen mins later I had a screaming overtired baby on my hands!

I hate it when he cries too, it upsets me so much I always feel like crying too and hate myself for getting him so distressed. DP says I just need to accept it happens sometimes but it cuts like a knife :(

I think there must be something in the 18th of Jan date angie :)

birdies, we don't really have a routine if I'm honest. The only things that are the same every day are: bath and/or pyjamas at 6, poo between 8:15 and 8:30 pm, every night without fail (!) and then bed between 9 and half past. She doesn't sleep in the evening though, no matter what we try.

Like I said though, she's always been a good sleeper. Her third night, she slept for 5 hours straight in the night. I almost feel guilty when people ask if she sleeps all night. She's going to be a nightmare toddler I think.

That must be it creepy