December 2012: Dribbles, giggles and rolls!

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Thought we should get a new thread before the night shift

Oh guess what? Ds won't go to sleep again. Why did I have to get the faulty one? I'm so sad that I just want him to hot six months so I can start ff him so he will eventually sleep as I really wanted to keep breastfeeding.

Sorry you're having a hard time spotty. Does he have an afternoon nap that you can bring forward to help make him more tired at bedtime, or give him a good session in the door bouncer? T seems to have slept a lot today so not sure what tonight will hold for us. I know it seems that ff is the answer but try not to make any rash decisions especially if you think you'd like to continue bfing. You know what these babies are like, it can all change in an instant and once you start weaning his routine will likely change and hopefully affect his sleep in a good way. You could always try mixed feeding after 6 months with bf on the day and a ff at bedtime.

He naps as and when and it doesn't make a difference tbh. I'm feeding him over ten times in a 24 hour period he's worse than a newborn
I don't know why he won't go down after feeds anymore, or suck his thumb or even fall asleep sucking my bloody finger. He's just a nightmare really. There's such a small portion of the day when he's actually awake and happy. Dp's cough is giving me the rage oh well better go to bed...

(Sorry for moaning, again)

Bloody baby won't go to sleep!

Does he only go to sleep on the boob? That's my problem with T - it was really getting to me with excessive nighttime suckling but touch wood the last 2 nights have been better. I've wondered about persisting with the dummy but I know they can have their own problems. If it becomes too much of an issue I will have to insist she stops the boob dummy - I'd rather that than stop bfing but it is such a tough call.

T just turned herself on her side to sleep!

He falls asleep on the boob at night. In the day he feeds when he first wakes up so falls asleep in his bouncy chair, car or morning nap in his cot sucking my finger .

Once he's asleep in the evening he wakes up as soon as he goes into his cot.

It doesn't help that our rooms so light but our windows are so big we are yet to find anything that doesn't require lots of time/money.

Spotty I bought some blackout fabric off of eBay then sewed it onto our curtains. Cost me £30 for 10 metres (enough to do the stupidly large windows in our room and the nursery). I'm terrible at sewing so just borrowed a sewing machine - attached it with two lines of sewing taking about 10 minutes. It's not perfect, but much darker than without.

Could your DS have reflux? Sucking at the breast eases symptoms for them. T falls asleep on me through the day and will sleep for anywhere up to 4 hours if I leave him attached to boob. If I put him in his pram we'll get an hour if I'm lucky, but more usually 10-30m (even then only if I keep settling him by pushing the pram every few minutes).

I don't think so stacks he's always happy after a feed? What other symptoms would there be?

He's awake for his first feed already

kellymom.com/parenting/nighttime/comfortnursing/

Bin bags and duct tape, Spotty?

We had a black out blind in ds1s room that kept falling down so I just cut it to the window size and stick it on with Velcro . Is that an option spotty? Black out blinds aren't too expensive in Argos.

DS has been much happier today. He slept 10-4.40, 5-6.30, 6.45-8.45 last night! Then he had an hours nap this morning. He also went down for bed really well tonight at 7.30 and no wake ups yet. Touch wood he's turned a corner. 21 weeks today!

They don't come big enough IsThat.

Might have to do bin liners pidj our curtains are on the way out so can't out backing onto them

Just spent ten minutes with ds on his cot asleep sucking my finger but he woke everytime I took it out. I've got into bed and put him on my chest and he was asleep straight away. How am I ever going to stop this without making him sad??

Love kellymom!

Have you tried putting him in his tummy to sleep?

No I haven't, he always hated it when he was smaller though and hates tummy time. Might be worth a try though? I just got him into his cot so going to try and get some sleep before he wakes again...

Have you looked at maybe using the width as the length. Oh I'm not making sense, so undo the whole length and run it sideways across the windows? Just ignor me if your windows are bigger than that

Also DS would wake up if I tried to put him down on his back, whereas on his front I can practically dump him in the cot. Obv it's not for everyone though. (I don't let DS tummy sleep in our bed)

Yep, I think tummy sleeping is completely different from awake tummy time. T always used to wake instantly if I put her on her back, now if she's sound asleep she'll stay asleep in her back for about 30 mins but soon starts flailing and wakes up. I think perhaps they feel a bit less 'exposed' on their tummies. Obviously it's a tough decision as its not recommended but dds1&3 just would not sleep on their back leading to sleep deprivation and hysteria all round.

I bought some quite cheap blackout curtains on Amazon. Not the most beautiful looking things in the world but they do that trick.

My windows are over two metres wide even the made to measure place didn't go big enough

Hmm I will try his front then. In SCBU they put all the babies on their tummy as it's supposed to help them breath but ds never liked it and it always made his sats drop.

Ok I could be speaking too soon but I just put him down on his tummy and he's stayed asleep now how do I go about not laying here worrying?! He's already moved his head from one side to the other....

spotty I think the major concern with tummy sleeping is overheating. So check he's not too hot/doesn't get too hot and then try to relax. My dd tummy slept too so I'm pretty used to it and haven't panicked often this time around. although SIL thinks its akin to child abuse

Well he slept 7.30-12.30, 12.45-2.40, 2.55-4.45 so far. Not too bad but not as good as yesterday

Has anyone researched lip tie? DS has this and it means he doesn't splay his top lip when feeding which for us isn't an awful problem we've managed to feed really successfully even with this odd latch. But I've been reading up and it can cause problems with their teeth and/or speech. I was thinking if we were going to get it snipped it might be better now rather than when he's bigger, but although there's a lot of info about tongue tie there's not a huge amount about lip tie!

Such a fussy baby overnight. He had woken every 1.5-2 hours or do and fed for 20 mins max each time.

IsThat I was calm he woke 9,12,3&6 so thank you everyone (although I'm not counting my chickens) now if you could all stop him waking so frequently?!

Dd and ds have lip ties. Dd has no problems with her teeth, no gaps (she actually has an extra tooth!) but my niece has a gap and lip tie. I can usually get ds's lip to flange enough if I pull it anyway apparently children usually break it by falling over or something and they won't do anything unless it hasn't broken by the time their adult teeth are coming through.

FoD sorry you had a rough night I think a full English is in order

spotty I hope the lack of posts means you got some sleep? Am I right in thinking you've got a sensor mat too? Extra reassurance! I did quite a bit of research into why tummy sleeping is an issue - as stacks says there's a heat issue but also all people, including tinies have a reflex to move their heads if not getting enough oxygen - it is thought that on tummies on softer surfaces sometimes a 'well' is created where they re-breathe their own air so get less oxygen and more carbon dioxide. One theory is that the reflex to move is less developed in a few babies. Unfortunately there is no safe age to put them on their tummies but the general feeling seems to be that once they can roll its not worth fighting.
Interesting about scbu.

Well he doesn't roll but his mattress is quite firm and he moved his head a few times.

No sensor mat. My sister has one but won't let me borrow it. Dick.

Thanks for the info spotty I'm glad your DS sorta slept!