December 2012: 8 hour sleeps and chubby chops all round

[WillYouDoTheBunnyHop]

New thread for us ladies

[SpottyTeacakes]

Ds is still asleep (sorry) but I'm in so much pain I think I might explain. I think they're even too full for hand expressing.... Might have to try though ouch.

[SpottyTeacakes]

He was sucking his thumb in his sleep so I got him up. Pretty quiet on here tonight....

[SpottyTeacakes]

My earlier post should have said explode not explain

[WLmum]

Wow spotty T was up 2-2.45 then 4.30 - just settling her now hopefully. My boobs were like that this morning after she slept midnight til 7. Even though they were so full I only managed to hand express 2oz - what's that about?!
She's got 2nd lot of jabs at 11am :-(

[utopian99]

O has been having his first cold, poor little man, so has regressed to about month-old status. All he wants is cuddles and feeding, which I confess I strangely don't mind. Dh told me to give up on the cot till he's better so snuggly on and off feeds all night but this way I get plenty of sleep as I don't need to be very awake. (Also woke to find him rearranging my arm around ds - he's being lovely tonight..)

Think that cold aside we're also in sleep regression though- am buying a proper cot once we move on Friday so how long does this phase last?
We're moving with two cats, a baby seat and a pram, in a mini, for 3 hours on good Friday. Are we loopy?

[utopian99]

Also on the weaning front O is just over 14lb now at 12.5 weeks - was just planning on letting him get stuck into food once he starts showing signs of wanting to, rather than waiting for 6 months. My aunt and cousin are part of a trial to see if ebf to 6 months actually can increase the risk of developing asthma, but results aside I figured letting him play with food if not eat in a meaningful way is fine?

[EggsMichelle]

Utopian you are mad! I hate have the cats in the car, they cry constantly. Have you got a sedative for them? I'm moving in June 45mins away and will probably have two cats, dog and F in the qashqai, no lookong forward to it.

Terrible night, think its the transition to cot. Going to give some rolled up towels a try. Have ordered those breathable bumpers, but think he needs something to make the space smaller.

[SpottyTeacakes]

WL I only hand expressed a small amount down the hand basin to make it easier for him to latch. I'm not great at hand expressing as it squirts in all different directions I reckon if I'd pumped I would have got about 5oz. He's still asleep now please tell me that last week was our regression and it's not going to get worse again?!

[utopian99]

Yes eggs, 2 types - a pill for travel sickness and a gel to chill them out, which the vet said were safe for use together. The gel tastes of salmon apparently..

[HoneyMumandSon]

On the weaning front we were told on the blw course I did that the WHO guidelines state 6 months for starting as the gut is porous until then so introducing foods can lead the allergies developing. but I've heard rumours the guidelines are going to change again soon I think it's like anything to do with babies - everyone has a different but correct opinion

[halesball]

I agree with you Honey i don't think it suits every baby to wait until their 6 months old. The guidelines are just guidelines and i think instincts go a long way. I agree with the statement mums know best, H is showing signs of wanting food when she gets to a stage i'm completely comfortable with i'll give her some. I do need to do some more research though into BLW.

Utopian hope you and DS are feeling abit better today

[itsMYNutella]

pidj T was 3030g so only 200g difference When he was born the midwife said "he has a huge mouth" and maybe that's helped him he is happy when he has a boob, dummy or finger in his mouth so it really isn't a surprise that he is growing so fast.

Speaking of feeding he only slept a solid 2.5 hours last night before waking since then he has snacked rather than properly fed
hurry up and sleep better little man!!
Did others experience a growth spurt at 12 weeks? Wonder if that is what it is

[MaMaPo]

Morning all! Night here disrupted by pooing and frequent waking. C is 16 weeks today. Coincidence? I think not!

Re weaning, at last weigh in 3 weeks ago C was 15lb. She's really grown since then, but she's miles from being ready to wean. She can't sit well (still got a bobble head), still struggling to reach and grasp, and is completely uninterested in food. I'd really rather not push it until I feel confident it will be a good experience.

[SpottyTeacakes]

Ds is the same as C mamapo he's 17 weeks but only 12 corrected so still a bit wobbly. Otoh dd couldn't sit perfectly unaided until she was 7.5 months so I'd have been waiting a while with her! Plus it's much easier getting out the house with just a boob not needing any food.

Utopian I hope your move goes well did you say it was this Friday?

I popped ds into his cot so I could make the bed and he put his thumb in and went to sleep I have to take dd to nursery in five minutes though I don't think he's going to like it!

I can't believe ds was four months yesterday

[SpottyTeacakes]

Nutella ds had a few rough nights at 12 weeks

[MaMaPo]

Spotty, look at you with your fancy self-settling baby! :) Wish C could find her thumb not that it would help as she's firmly swaddled anyway

Yes, I'm not waiting until C can sit unaided, but I think she needs better head and neck control. I tried her in a bumbo a couple of weeks ago and she was very unsteady.

[WLmum]

All this talk of weaning I dreamt I gave T a banana and she shoved it all in ! I'll be taking a easy some easy go approach this time - I rushed it with dd2 (after 6 months) on advice of hv as she was still getting me up for boobs 3x a night. All it did was result in projectile vomiting as her little tummy clearly wasn't ready. Poor wee soul. I've ordered a new high chair cover so T can start to sit up with us for the social aspect but will try to wait until she's nearing 6 months before introducing food. That said, I'm sure a bit of banana to suck isn't the end of the world.

2nd set of jabs this morning :-(

[WLmum]

V jealous spotty!

[SpottyTeacakes]

Hope the jabs go well WL. The sleep is great but it's playing havoc with my boobs!

[Stacks]

T has always had excellent head and neck control, I think it comes from always facing forwards. He's almost sitting up too, he'll sit with a straight back and can balance like it for a little while. He's only 13w though, and can't really grasp or bring things to his mouth at all. He's got alot better at grasping over the last few days (reason for awful sleeping?). No one has mentioned weaning to us, and I'm not in a rush to start.
A tip though, if you can express and store milk you should try and build up a supply, once you start weaning you can use breast milk for stuff like baby porridge, and my sister found herself unable to express at this point, even though it was easy for her early on. I'm going to start trying to express and store now (and maybe try DS on a bottle some time for a real night off as opposed to 10 mins in the bath before DH says T is hungry/tired/needs to bath with me.

Nutella, I think there's a 3m and 4m growth spurt. From what I've read they're both hard going. Luckily after a couple of awful nights T has settled into a new routine of waking at 12, 3 and 5/6 am. I can handle that ok, better than every 1-2 hours like the other night!


Good luck whoever is moving house Friday (utopian?) you are crazy, yes, but I'm sure it'll be worth it. Really hope you don't hit traffic, can you plan your journey for a quiet time on the road? Even like 10/11pm? LO should sleep then, and traffic shouldn't be an issue.

Seymore, I hope you get some sleep soon. Is your DH away for long, or just a one day business trip? If he's away a couple if days, don't feel bad for accepting help last night, he can catch up on sleep while away. If he's just away for a day trip then still don't feel bad, he can go to bed early and sleep. It's just us that can't sleep just because we need it, we have to sleep to baby schedule :(

[Stacks]

Good luck with jabs.

[Clarella]

oops late to the party!

we're having terrible wakings - about 2 hourly all night tho amoxycillin poos don't help. Monday night I let him off due to tt snip, not so sure about last night

we're 15 weeks - is this sleep regression? he's suddenly regressed nap wise too - I could get him to nap easily with some bobbing when time was right, now he wakes up for more play and cat naps on the boob ! incidentally we're sitting up in bed yeay! his tongue can definitely do more. hv coming this avo for development check. v proud that g can take his. socks off

[halesball]

Good luck with the jabs.

My HV isn't coming today and i now have to go to clinic tomorrow to get H weighed. I'm abit gutted as i really wanted to talk about H not sleeping as its starting to really affect me.

[SpottyTeacakes]

Oh hales how often is she waking? How old is she? Ds was waking every three ish hours until a couple of weeks ago 1-2 hours when having a growth spurt

[halesball]

I class a good night as 4 wake ups but in reality, its 6-7 wake ups. Last week she had 2 nights were she slept for 4 hours. It wouldn't be so bad but it takes ages to settle her enough to transfer her to the cot