November 2012 - The lurker amnesty fred for our quiche

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Power to the people

Morning. I was going announce LO slept through but hace just been told she was up for a feed at 3.

But I slept through, which for all intents and purposes is in fact sufficient :o

PR yes it is!!

LO has decided to mix it all up... Not a huge fan of new routine! 7.30-11-5.15. I know I know it's not that bad but the 7.30-3-7.15 was a lot nicer! God know what will have with an hour time change and the clocks!

That's us up feeding again. I'm hoping he will go back down for an extra wee hour!

Luis nope app not psychic unfortunately but I am hoping to see a pattern to feeding and hope by increasing day feeds nights will be better :)

Will have a look for those books. Although tbh I can't see much helping! I think hes just wired not to sleep!!

vq wow!!! Just wow!!

Wow wow Valium Prince... You are ace!

I've been trying to keep up and failing miserably. I think I'm averaging at one post every 3 Fred's!

I off to try and catch up with you all, if I wait until I caught up then you would never hear from me at all.

I have spotted the discussion about another Ikea meet, count us in. Tuesday suits us best.

Still up. Had a massive vomit fest on mummy and mummy's bed. 6am bed sheet changes are not nice N!

Stoooooooooooooop. I can't keep up

Morning! Hurry the fuck up sweary Wednesday!

Yes pr that counts and is of most importance!

I are so schleepy still! Whyyyyy!! LO back in bed, some washing on, coffee has been had. Now, sleep or get dressed and wash bottles/clean. Ho hum! I should probably get him up tbh and go from there, I'm supposed to be getting him up to get bed time to be earlier especially because of that clock business!

What's everyone else doing? Changing routine slightly each day so it doesn't matter or just sticking LO to bed an hour early when clocks change and hope for the best?

kyz I will be hoping for the best here! I will follow his bedtime routine and hope he doesn't notice it is an hour earlier.

I have over a hundred books in my kindle that I haven't read yet, as many in my bookshelves here. Lots of recipe books which I never use.

So why did I just go mad on Amazon and buy eight more books? Was able to stop myself from buying a slow cooker though just because the slow cooker recipe book I saw looked nice.

Well. The inevitable happened. DP fell asleep with O in his usual way (as in not planned co-sleeping, just falling asleep with O on top of him). And O fell off the bed.

Please tell me not to be cross? I am cross because I have said time and time again not to fall asleep with him. If he is keeping him in our bed then it's fine but it should be done safely. He just doesn't do it.

I woke at 7.10 to hear a thud. DP tried to say it was just a bottle he dropped. Oscars very pissed off cry said otherwise.

He's fine. Was smiling when picked up and grabbed off DP by me but he could have hurt himself.

Glad we have very thick carpets now.

Both my children will now have in their baby books 'daddy dropped you off the bed at 4 months old' .

Both my children will now have in their baby books 'daddy dropped you off the bed at 4 months old' .

Morning.

P is still a baby made of snot. She slept better last night though and therefore so did I. She was up bright and early but is back in her basket already.

kyz I haven't decided how best to tackle the clock change. I need to get my head around it properly and work out the impact before I try to plan how to alter the routine. To be honest we will probably change nothing and just see what happens.

fatima P is now almost always in her at seat rather than the carrycot. She just gets so frustrated in the carry cot but is nowhere near ready for the push chair part. I am not too concerned about the issue with time in the car seat. I have searched and searched and can only find one study related to time spent in car seats. The sample size was 7 babies. Certainly when P was tiny I would limit the time and I wouldn't leave her in it for much longer than 2 hours anyway but I don't worry much about it anymore.

Who asked about waiting for weaning? I can see us going right up to 26 weeks. P still has a lot of hand eye development to do, still doesn't reach for things and shows absolutely no interest in food. I tried her holding a sippy cup - she held it in one hand, waved it around, tried to eat it then dropped it. There was a baby at massage yesterday who is the same age as P - she looked like she could eat a 3 course meal! She was opening her mouth for the cake her mum was eating and reaching out for the plate. Her mum lifted the plate up to eat the cake and then lowered it to baby level when she was done. The baby's face was priceless! She was staring at the plate as if to say "where did it go?"

See that made me realise just how not ready P is. She is only 19 weeks so lots of time to prepare myself for it. I noticed that Sainsbury's are selling full bibs with sleeves. They are terry towelling and looked good - I might get some.

I am very impressed with valium prince! You must feel born again vq

Watch the app use izzy! You'll turn into me! Seriously, I love my app - I am a geek though. I used it initially to log P's own patterns or note I she had any which I then nudged into a routine.

Yay pr - that definitely counts!

detective will he learn from it, that's the question? DP frequently accuses me of worrying too much when I point out things that could happen, it's like he needs to see it for himself. Which is fine if I'm pointing out that DD1 can definitely open the sudocrem (which she did on his watch, and yes dear, it is hard to clean up isn't it?! Mwahahaha), but not so fine when he's insisting she couldn't reach the work top or open the front door.

Oh no,poor Oscar.

O decided to sleep through the night with a dream feed at 1 (i woke up and decided to feed her, it worked). I feel like human again.

Can't say fairer than that Detective but I'd be fuming & making my DH feel guilty in the same boat.

Dream feed doesn't seem to be working. 8.15 - 11.15(DF) - 4 (at a push, tried everything else to get him back to sleep)- 6 (dummy) -7.20.

He used to sleep better, I swear. Or was it just that I expected him to wake then, whilst now I expect him to sleep through?

VQ glad J's sleeping better & things are working out on the formula.

As far as clocks going forward, I can't be bothered to try to pre-empt anything. IME as soon as you make plans for babies, they do the opposite...

izzy yesterday I unintentionally didn't feed F as much in the day, as we were in the car a lot, and she was therefore asleep. Last night was vile. She went to bed at 8, and was up a t 1, 3 and 5 for feeds. We've been up since 6. She's just fed again. Now I know it's not scientific but seems like quite a coincidence....today we will have a lazy day with lots of feeds and see what happens!

pr you are not alone in your book fetish. I have too many, I would happily buy lots and lots more. But as dh points out, it's not fair that his dvd collection is in boxes under the stairs, and I expect all my books out on shelves .. Books are so much nicer though!

Pig they are so much nicer. I keep meaning to have a clear out but I just can't.

Detective is it wrong that I am slightly reassured now that someone else has dropped their baby too. Very glad that O is fine though. If that had happened in our bed would have been a different story as our bedroom has a tiled floor. This will, hopefully, learn him not to just fall asleep with the baby. I would say that you should try and make him feel guilty, but when I dropped LO DH was actually very good about it, so I would advise you just let him learn from it. He will have been scared anough when he realised or when he realises how stupid he is.

if it helps detective neither Yousef or I will be ironed!

Hooray lily!

I wonder now it has happened detective if he might be more careful. I agree with kirrin that he might have needed to see it for himself to know that the risk was real. The thing is that he can help it - my DH can fall asleep on a clothes line but because he is so concerned about falling asleep with P he is really careful. Maybe your DP should shoosh O to sleep standing up.

Oh and izzy I have GF's contented first year book - it's all yours. If you are desperate for it I can post it or I can bring it to our next meet. Or we could have our own seperate meet?

Oh no poor O. Hope you give him a good telling off Detective.

My LO is so delightful, having his bottle he stops eating smiles at me, laughs,does a huge poo on my leg, grins and continues eating!

Just a quick check in. Was busy yesterday but I did read last night. Was too tired to post.

chasing just wanted to add my words of encouragement. You took a huge step going to the doctors. It is no surprise SS have been called in given your circumstances, however what they will find is a loving caring mum who is doing everything they can for their son. They will help you and hopefully give you some support. I admire the way you are handling such an awful situation. You are stronger than you know x

detective try not to be too angry. Take the moral high ground that it wasn't you. Hope O is ok.

I went to mad play yesterday which was one of the places touted for the bluewater/lakeside area meet. Was nice and quiet so think if we went out of school holidays it would be ideal for those of us with toddlers too.

Got to go....E has third set of jabs.