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StuntNun · 21/03/2013 21:21

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1710755-November-2012-Will-the-Easter-Bunny-visit-our-babies

Any remaining lurkers, would you like to de-lurk and announce yourselves? We won't bite!

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Pikz · 24/03/2013 06:56

VQ you win a massive fuck off trophy for coping with that.

We are now in quite a routine 7.30-2.45-6.30 so I cannot moan one jot.

He is finally seeming better about to pump him full of medicine again.

PR I didn't steal the baby...promise!

Kirrin hope your ok... He is getting there.

Detective I want my 5.37minutes

Chasing, MM massive hugs.

PurplePidjin · 24/03/2013 07:05

I also count anything after 6 as morning, and will be carrying that on in the toddler years as a House Rule!

I got another hour from 5:40 so I'm tentatively counting the move as a success. I'm particularly liking the 10 o'clock feed as that would give me my evening back. Up to now I've been going to bed at 7 with him just so i get at least a couple of hours in.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 24/03/2013 07:15

Thanks yw looks good I will go for that

chasing I think a fresh start would do you the power of good. New place slowly slowly build up a circle of friends and a new life fr you and O. You have us all routing for you.

mm well, it s good you ad a big talk. Would it be viable fir him to take you to the dr and come in with you. The stuff he is doing is completely unacceptable but it seems to me is just because he doesn't get it. pr is right labelling is no good, however if it gets him to assess his own behaviour then it is a means to an end.

Gush Alert

My three bigs ones were great yesterday when I took them out for tea. They were so well behaved and such good company. Ds1 is starting to talk much more in the last few weeks and s causing us all much hilarity. I luvs them they are great. Grin

StuntNun · 24/03/2013 08:10

You win the prize VQ, I had four consecutive nights with a five-hour stretch a month or two ago before it all went to pot again.

PR you really must do better since you are the sleep standard to which we all aspire. Wink

After a better night on Friday we were back to J crying in pain and hourly feedings last night. I had almost no dairy yesterday but it has been two days since he had baby rice so I might try that again. TMI His diarrhoea is terrible though, the last nappy looked like it was full of paint! /TMI

Right have to go and see what the power cut has done to the contents of the fridge. The freezer should be okay because we didn't open it. I have no broadband yet and intermittent 3G signal so I'll have to catch up later. Although from the responses I have read I'm already hoiking up my judgey-pants on MM's behalf.

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PetiteRaleuse · 24/03/2013 08:44

Ugh. Amoxycillin sharts.

Elizadoesdolittle · 24/03/2013 08:45

mm I obviously don't know you but I am too very sceptical about you having pnd. Pnd is very serious and I am in no way dismissing it but I think in your case you simply have an complete arse of a DH who is not supporting you and that along with the stresses of a newborn is making you depressed, as it would anyone! Speak to a professional but make sure you're honest about the lack of support you have.

chasing do you think you are confident enough to move to a different area? You can go wherever you like and build a lovely life for you and O. Not that you couldn't do that in Northampton but as you have no ties there a complete break could be what you need. Come to Kent, you'd have a ready made friend in me Grin

Was going to post more but E just woken....be back soon.

PetiteRaleuse · 24/03/2013 08:53

eliza are you anywhere near Maidstone? I'm looking into hotels for the night as we drive up north and was wondering if you knew anything about the Black Horse at Thurnham?

Clarella · 24/03/2013 08:56

oh hells bells too much to catch up on not enough time to post in detail.

the probiotic they're using in scbu is biogaia which has one strain in it - 2 biologists agreed less is more. t'other ologist thought 'restore' better as has more in plus the strain that is mentioned on kellymom, though conceded that the biogaia strain was good for diarrhea etc. the biogaia is being used in preemies who are just developing their flora so dunno if other one is better for older babies. but is a powder - could put on nipples. biogaia is drops.

Contradictionincarnate · 24/03/2013 08:59

wow ...left her to grizzle a bit last night as she was building to crying and everytime she made a wail sound she then went quiet think her eyes were even closed after 10 minutes she went to sleep and woke again at 7! Grin

been on the boob ever since though Sad won't let go of the nipple! I am dying to go back to sleep ... may not happen.

Clarella · 24/03/2013 09:01

kellymom has some advice on probiotics.

2 wakings till wind woke him at 6 :)

Contradictionincarnate · 24/03/2013 09:10

bry I am just outside of Cardiff just over 10 mins by train Smile
like the village feel and being near mountains ... originally from deepest darkest valleys which was a bit isolating growing up...here I have the best of both worlds as I do think Cardiff has everything!
neighbour is shouting at 2.5 ds ."..relax ! ... calm down ... I have had enough of you!" he has been crying incestently since birth all through the night until about a year ago but still lots aibu to think some of it is down to the way they respond!?

Bookwolf32 · 24/03/2013 09:21

This is me no longer lurking Smile.
Feel very refreshed today, went out for a night out, left DD with her Dad. She didn't wake up to feed until I was nearly home at 11pm and then slept for another 4 hours and then let me sleep in till 6.40 as opposed to 5.30! I'm hoping it will continue, but am not going to hold my breath Grin.

Elizadoesdolittle · 24/03/2013 09:22

pr I'm not a million miles from Maidstone (about 40 mins drive) but I don't know anything about that hotel. I can do some digging around for you. When are you going to book? There is a nice little farm in Maidstone called Kent life.

pp sorry about the job. They are fools for not wanting you.

Off to lakeside today to check out the new kiddiecare shop. I will report back glenda as its suitability for a meet. DH has found a golf course that's open thank god so we are all in better spirits here.

BigPigLittlePig · 24/03/2013 09:37

Morning all, and welcome bookwolf

Contra I left Cardiff in 2009 after 5 years there at uni - I loved it, and yesterday made me very nostalgic, seeing all my old haunts. We plan to meet up again in a few months, and hopefully I can leave F with dh that time and go out out get smashed on fancy cocktails

I think F heard my wails of despair as once she settled at 10, that was it til 6.30 Confused Just expressed 4oz in as many minutes from left boob. The little mare refused the bottle of ebm when I was in Cardiff, but wolfed down a bottle at bedtime once we were home. Strange child. It was only 4oz though and then she was sound. I'd be so intrigued to see how much she actually drinks in one day.

TooManyDicksOnTheDancefloor · 24/03/2013 10:00

Morning all, hi bookwolf!

We're not going to GTI festival pp, far too early in the year for camping! We may go away in April if the weather improves. You should definately make some boobie beanies, I'd have one Smile

chasing, it sound like you're well rid of him and his family, what a bunch of arseholes. Move up north, it's cheaper.

mm, I agree, being down because of how you are being treated and lack of sleep in not pnd. He need to support you rather than look for an excuse. Big hugs to you.

MissMummy1 · 24/03/2013 10:12

Thank you all! I am 99% sure I am not depressed. Having been down in the past I know the signs enough to know that I do not have it now. I will humour him (and my mum) and make an appointment but he will be coming with me and hearing the hard truth of what a knobber he is being.

I am NOT putting my daughter on ff while I can still feed her myself. I have nothing against ff but while I can feed her and enjoy feeding her, I see little point.

Hope everyone is having a nice sunday. We are off to my mums later for my dsis's 18th birthday. Must get my act together and finish start baking her cake!

ValiumQueen · 24/03/2013 10:37

bp I too would be interested to know how much bm they consume. Since swapping to mixed feeding I am getting a bit obsessed with numbers. This morning for example, after sleeping another 3.5 hours after bf, he only took 4oz formula, yet last night he chugged 8oz and had a bf too.

He went to bed at 8 and woke at 12, 2, 6 then again at 10. He woke up smiling Smile

PetiteRaleuse · 24/03/2013 10:40

eliza don't worry I will use trip advisor it was just in case you had some local knowledge :)

I need a place where we can eat on site and the dog is welcomed

OK anyone got any ideas on getting mud stains out of clothes? My floors are mopped daily pretty much but in this wet weather they are gettingndirty again far too quickly and dd is getting her clothes muddy. I am hoping it is good for her immune system.

PetiteRaleuse · 24/03/2013 10:40

vq which days will you be at BLS?

ValiumQueen · 24/03/2013 10:53

pr it would just be the sat and sun as DD1 is at school. Weekend 15-16 June. We would be travelling Friday evening returning Sunday evening.

PetiteRaleuse · 24/03/2013 11:25

Cool :)

Was your DH born and bred in Carnforth? I bet me or someone in my family knows him :)

MsJupiterJones · 24/03/2013 11:29

VQ I remember just one occasion when L has slept 5 hrs straight. But it's difficult to be certain as every night is different. That's what's so hard, not knowing if I will get 15 mins or 3 hrs. Ah, I remember the heady days of weeks 6-12 when he slept 4hrs+2hrs+1hr every night .

However! Last night we had... drumroll... nearly 7 hrs between feeds! He went down at 10pm. Woke up at 2 but I blearily thought I'd try the dummy just in case. Next thing it was 4am! Popped to the loo pre-feed & he'd dozed off again! So it was about ten to 5 when he fed. Amazing! Sorry for all the exclamation marks.

Please let this be the start of something. I was at breaking point last week.

MM & Daisy obviously it's impossible for us to diagnose anything on here but the two important things are to keep in touch with your GP/HCPs so they can help but also not lose sight of what an effect your partners and current situations are having - as others have said, don't let them excuse their behaviour or put your reaction down to a separate MH issue.

I'm still interested in the Lakeside or Bluewater meet if it happens btw.

YellowWellies · 24/03/2013 11:52

Well its either teeth or the boy has brought back a 4 month sleep regression revival for his 4 month EDD anniversary. He used to do 7-9 + 2 every night or even 10 hrs straight. The last few nights its been 3-5 + 2-3 + 1-2. Sod that - tonight I'm off to bed with him at 8.30 tonight to at least get that big stretch. Envy

StuntNun · 24/03/2013 12:04

Due to my electricity woes I'm a bit behind so I need to do a huge catch up...

Welcome to the quiche Limpit, Roo and Bookwolf. Roo emoillient cream is great for cradle cap - slather loads on before the bath then wash off in a plain water bath, bubble bath and shampoo are your enemy as they make cradle cap worse.

Sorry your ILs went behind your back like that Yoko. That 'I know better than you what's best for your child' attitude is annoying and undermining without them acting on it as well. My mum talked me into giving J some baby rice last week, I only let her to get her to stop banging on about it plus a little bit of curiosity as to whether it might help with his constant diarrhoea.

MM can you make your DH read the NHS guidelines on bfing and weaning and let him know that you MIL's advice is about 25 years out of date?

Sorry you're having a tough time Mona and Evil (((hug))) Please post on here if you're struggling, the quiche will back you up big time.

Mio beer actually does increase milk supply - non-alcoholic beer works just as well though dammit.

Madam that old Lamaze 'babies think things they can't see don't exist anymore' idea has been disproved by an experiment involving a train going down a ramp with a barrier over part of the track.

Yes VQ my DH can't seal a pack of wipes. Or a pack of bacon. Or a bag of bread. He has servants to do that for him don'cha know. Plus when he leaves the butter on the worktop every morning it magically migrates back into the fridge. But apparently I should be grateful he does anything at all... because some men don't. When I mentioned to him about poor Chasing's DP trouble he actually seemed to think that made him (i.e. my DH) a good husband and i should be more appreciative! Because he hasn't abused me! It's a different world for some people isn't it? Mind you his dad is a complete narc and wouldn't dream of doing women's work like cooking or changing a nappy. His role is the breadwinner and apparently even when he was unemployed and MIL was working two part-time jobs she still had to do all the cooking and cleaning and child rearing. So at least I know where DH gets it from.

Clarella I've been taking a probiotic yoghurt drink every day since the third trimester in the hope it would be good for J's gut. I did consider a baby probiotic for J when I was on antibiotics for my section wound infection but he seemed to recover pretty quickly after the course of antibiotics finished.

Pidj have you considered childminding? I think Garden is a childminder although I may be imagining that. I know I found it hard to get a childminder for my DS1 who has special needs so your skills might be in demand.

Izzy your LO is reverse cycling. You may want to start waking for feeds to get the long sleep at night rather than a long break between feeds in the daytime.

Glad to hear things are improving PR and VQ. Who last had the quiche pompoms?

Chasing I hope you can get some help with the PND and on here as well. Unfortunately your ILs will side with their son so you can't expect too much from them. What family do you have? MM you don't sound like you have PND so much as you need some support from your DH. See how the appointment goes tomorrow but don't take antidepressants because someone else is telling you to, only if you think they will help you. Equally don't not take them because you don't like taking pills, if you need them then take them. Hope that makes sense.

Bitch away Bry, that's what we're here for. Isn't it?

J is asleep next to me. He's so beautiful when he's asleep and not crying! Smile

And I have caught up! In your face powercut!

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TheDetective · 24/03/2013 12:44

VQ yes he is still on LF. Will keep him on this unless he worsens or shows repeat in symptoms. Haven't tried the cmp free.

chasing Fuck. It appears that way. Grin

How fucking bizarre!

I declared screeched down the stairs to DP this morning that 6am is fucking nightime! 7am is day here and not a second before! O was taken downstairs at 6.51. Grrrr. I make a point of keeping him in night mode til 7. So if he is awake - fine. But we don't go downstairs. And no toys. Just music and cuddles.