November 2012 - The lurker amnesty fred for our quiche

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1710755-November-2012-Will-the-Easter-Bunny-visit-our-babies

Any remaining lurkers, would you like to de-lurk and announce yourselves? We won't bite!

The most pointless study ever! Someone forgot to ring the babies and tell them to go the fuck to sleep!

Have just read TEN PAGES and promptly forgotten most of what I wanted to say.

I do recall -
pp sorry to hear about the lack of job
chasing well done for phoning GP
mm humour the ILs, the GP will no doubt me more sensible about things and take the lack of sleep etc into account

Erm...
This is the gist of what I wanted to say from about 2am last night

Fucking sleep regression can fuck the fuck off.

My wake-once-at-night-and-quickly-settle-again baby has slowly mutated into a broken sleep dodger. Last night - bed at 8. Awake at 12, 2, 3 (stayed awake til 5.30), 6.30. Fuck that.

Had a lovely day today in Cardiff catching up with old friends though, so hopefully that will have worn F out crosses everything

ciarella i'm interested in probiotics as F is also on trimethoprim for having had 2 utis early on. Kidney scan next thurs and hope all clear.

Haven't worked out how to pm from phone sorry

Detective do you only make friends with people who live in Northampton and whose child shares the same name as your child?

chasing do it! move to the New Forest.

Is anything stopping you now?

mm manchild has promised to try harder. What specifically has he promised, that time will tell on?

Aargh! De-lurked and then BAM! sleep regression. Am knackered. Ranitidine worked for three days now back to screaming baby, poor darling. Back to dr on Monday. No soy next plus omeprazole?

3 yo DD1 in first ballet show today. So cute. I wept .

Have sped through thus thread. Hugs to those that need them. PND a bastard and unsupportive men are too. Will try to post properly tomorrow.

Am an Oxford mummy.
Meals xx

Cardiff bplp you from my neck of the woods?

dd went down at 11 back up twice since then ... I havent actually closed my eyes whilst she did been looking at house porn ...suprising how little you can get for 2.5 mil in some places ... suppose is location location location. she is grizzling now stopping then building up again was going to leave turtle on wooshibg not sure if its her stomach though

MM I'm sceptical of that diagnosis too my love - it seems like a lazy convenient one from people that perhaps should simply be helping more. I take it, if your DH thinks you're ill he'll be taking more of the burden from you (washing, cooking, shopping) and speaking to you with kindness? That diagnosis lets him off the hook so no wonder he's pushing for it Grrrr being irritable and down about someone who fucks off to the pub rather than feeding you isn't PND - its quite rational. I was a bit shocked about how poorly he spoke to you on Friday - especially given it was in front of people.

Good call on the PIL trip - she just wants to get her claws on Tilly and put her on a bottle. Doesn't DP have issues with cheese - could be because of early weaning / bottle. Tell him to put that in his pipe next time he pressures you. Also point out that BM has more calories than FM. Assuming you're still keen to BF. Otherwise I could see you shifting to bottles with him vowing to help only for him to be useless at night feeds once your milk has gone xxxx

Meals yes that's the next step - sorry hon xxxx

I'm back! We had no electricity from noon on Friday to 10 p.m. last night so we've had a tough couple of days. J is back to hourly wakings so I'll be able to catch up on the 15 pages I've missed.

Think there's probably a few of us like that chasing - I have made a couple of friends here since having DD1, through baby groups, but prior to that had no friends here really. And I can still count all my friends on one hand.

First feed of the night - after 3 hours. Was hoping for a bit more but not too bad I suppose.

bplp meals and contra this too will pass this to will pass (repeat to fade) We've just come out the other side of the sleep regression - I'm sure you can relate to my feeling that 3 hours sleep in a row is good! Can you imagine, pre-baby, thinking 3 hours in a row was a good sleep?!?

Blimey - feels like I've been reading for days trying to catch up with you all.

Hi lurkers (my phone keeps trying to call you purists) and ex lurkers.

Mm - no-one gets to call you unloveable. That is ridiculous. And the 'takeaway' behaviour and car demands were apalling. Sorry you are having a crap time. I would be feeling depressed if I had a manchild treating me like that. Go to the docs if you feel it will help you but as pr (i think?) said don't let him hide his behaviour behind 'your pnd'.

Pr, vq and det - lovely to hear things sounding so much better for you.

Chasing - really big hugs. I'm sorry you are feeling do isolated - what you are going through is bloody tough. Stop hoping his family will come round though, they won't. Pick up your prescription. Call your hv and talk to her - find out if there is homestart in your area which would get someone visiting, or simillar. Take up det's offer of a visit, and try and build up to get out to a baby grp. You will make friends if you get out - a baby is like a puppy, it makes people talk to you! Regardless of your faith I wonder if it is also worth getting out to your local church - you may find that a source of help and support. We don't go to ours often but when we do it is obvious so many people really care.

My head is blank and I've forgotten who is in lymington - is it you pidj? I am not that close but not that far... North Wiltshire. Would love a meet in principle but as it is quite a trek might struggle to fit it in a week day between the kids various apts and commitments. If you let me know when you're meeting though I'll see what I can do :-)

I am grumpy. Could have had 5 hrs sleep for the first time in ages if dh had heard dd1 crying and dealt with it. Our room (where he is sleeping) is next to hers and his head is right by her cot on the other side of a thin wall. The spare room where I am with G is the other side of his room. Yet still I wake when she cries (luckily) and he doesn't. I am tempted to get a doorbell i can wake him with and put the speaker by his head. Petty, i know (as he is a great dh in the scheme of things) but instead of the first 5 hr unbroken stretch i could have had in ages, I got 3 again. He doesn't have to work tomorrow and has barely had a broken night's sleep on account of the kids since g arrived (though he has had to get up to find escaped cows from time to time - but that's another story...)

Sorry to those I've forgotten. Sleep dust and a good Sunday to all.

Hiya stunt! So sorry to hear you are on hourly wakings again. I'll stop bitching about my 3 now (infact I am now feeling slightly sheepish having woken dh and been grumpy at him while checking to see if he had fallen asleep with his bloody radio headphones in again, which he hadn't. Fear I am going to have to apologise in the morning.

Ooh I know what else I was going to say. Were you at uni in Cardiff bp? I went there 17 yrs ago. Loved it. Great memories - especially of going surfing in porthcawl. Where are you contra? Sounds like you're out that way too?

I also have been known to study at Oxford.

mm I do not think you have PND. I think you have living-with-a-twat-itis alongside being a first time mum with a baby who has sore skin and is a sleep-dodger. Go to GP and see what a professional says x

daisy hug honey x see GP. The best way to get back at the bastard is to be happy x

First wake after 4 hours. Gave bottle that DH got, and J was not happy. Spluttery, sweary , wide awake. I expected him to throw it all back. I found it very distressing. He took 7oz but needed boob to calm.

I also studied at Cardiff a long time ago.

Two hours. Two fucking hours. Above post did not load at 12.30.

detective thank you for the kind offer of formula but I will wait and see how he does on this, and then pester the GP again. Are you still on LF? Is it ok for him? Have you dried the CMPI milk yet?

Bryz yes it's me near Lymington. I can also manage Ringwood if that's better?

8-9:50, 10:20-2:20, 2:50-4:50. Still feeding now.

Results are inconclusive.

Hmm. Last feed at 10, up at 3 and now 6. Which one of you nicked my 10 hour sleeping baby? Eh? OK I know one wake up is OK compared to what some of you are going for, but I want my full night sleeps back please.

Awake every fucking 2 hozrs, i am so tired. All the fuss for 2 oz milk.

chasing i will try to come and see you on tues if you can do it. Can't promise yet, but will let you know tmrw.

Just the two wakings here as I count 6am as morning. Not bad. He woke me on two other occasions, but self settled. So I am still whacked, but progress is being made.

Not a hint of a wheeze noted. Just the bottle madness. Will do dreamfeed tonight and see if that is better. Any thoughts? It was his first ever bottle at night so I guess it was all new and worrying.

Looks like a fairly quiet night for most of us?

6am is definitely morning. Certainly was quiet on the fred.

This boy has slept longer than 5 hours on two occasions since birth. Is he the worst sleeper or does anyone else have a worse history? izzy or stunt can you beat that?

We've had four sleeps of over 5 hours since birth VQ Does that make N twice as good a sleeper?

I would have posted more last night but MN was offline when I tried so I looked at property porn instead. No idea what I would have said though.

N went down at 22.30 and then woke at 01.20, 02.35, 04.45 and now. She fed at 01.20 but at all the others she just latched on and took a token gulp or 2.

meals I'm also in Oxford :)

I'm really sad to read that some of you are struggling; no practical advice here but am thinking of you all and

Who mentioned Lovejoy? Was it PR? He was hilarious on Jonathan Ross last night, loved the footage of him singing Avalon on Pebble Mill

(Sorry, I meant struggling with PND )