November 2012 - The lurker amnesty fred for our quiche

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1710755-November-2012-Will-the-Easter-Bunny-visit-our-babies

Any remaining lurkers, would you like to de-lurk and announce yourselves? We won't bite!

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I wish we could win the lottery. We are going to be fucked in a few years because we rent a house that will need to be sold and we can't afford to buy it or anything similar. Maybe we'll move to Scotland...

Pass I think we probably should have given it today. I did the other day for his cold. I would take PCM so why let him suffer?

He is so asleep in my arms right now, need to do a sleepy feed & transfer manoeuvre.

Chasing I am very sorry to hear you are so down. Wish we could come and hold your hand. You are in the right and the ILs don't matter. Who is around for you? I am glad you are getting the PND sorted but go easy on yourself. If you are getting irritated try to take a deep breath and step away. Things are going to be amazing for you once you are over this bump. Lots of love

Evening all :)

Welcome roo

JJ there is nobody around for me. I'm not close to my family and I have no friends here.

Agree about the reflux and CMPI chat, found it very hard to follow, let alone live with. Hats off to you all.

Where's Detective today?

Lovejoy still exists and is 70. I mean the bloke who played him. It's surprising how little UKTV has changed in 15 years, despite all the reality crap and manufactured slebs. You still have ant and dec, jonathan ross, noel edmonds and phillip schofield. Sue Barker still presents tennis stuff and Charlie is still in Casualty. If I close my eyes I could almost be back in my parents' house.

chasing there were some people on the thread near you. Maybe arrange a meet so you have some RL support. I've suffered PND and its horrific at best of times let alone what your going through. Try and get down to collect prescription as they will help.

I've retreated up to bed. I'm in agony due to lack of somewhere to sit and am feeling really sick but so far haven't been. I want to sleep but dreading tonight with J already as I feel so ill :(

We had a massive talk today. My mum came round too. They both think I have mild PND probably not helped by me crying. I feel fine, really I do. I know I have been run down with this bastarding cold and lack of sleep but otherwise I feel okay. Would explain my irratibility. I have been blackmailed into making an appointment on Monday.

MIL wants me to go and stay with them for a week or two to take some time out. If I am not depressed now that would certainly tip me over. I politely declined.

He has admitted his way of caring isnt necessarily conducive to a happy relationship and has promised to try harder. Time will tell, I am sceptical to say the least.

Only had time to skim this evening but roo I found aveeno (as recommended by the lovely sophia) was the only thing that helped M's cradle cap.

I would LOVE another meet up! Tuesdays and Wednesdays are grand for me. Any day really except Thursdays. Obviously all subject to me having a car but I am going to argue to keep the hire one until I have bought a replacement. He has promised to buy me a runaround for my birthday in 2 weeks to "do until we find a new car" - an improvement on the second hand tyres he bought me 2 years ago I suppose...

Sleep dust to all. I am starting operation 'sleep in cot not mums bed' with M tonight so may be lurking in all the small hours!

chasing there's not much I can do from here but I have free calls to UK landlines. If ever you want an actual conversation, just to rant or to bounce ideas or whatever, the let me know. It can be very draining having no adult conversation. That goes for any of you actually. I would go mad without my phone, it's very isolated wherre I live and toddler groups don't exist. Sometimes a quick chat with the outside world really helps.

I'm so sorry Chasing. Everyone here is on your side. I know the big meet fell through but perhaps someone could still visit you on Monday? I wish I could. The good thing about Mumsnet is there's always someone online so keep talking. Lots of love to you and O xx

MM do YOU think you have PND? I am concerned that labelling you with PND might make you feel somehow responsible and/or relieve DP of some of his responsibility. You would be perfectly within your rights to be depressed, quite frankly I would be too with the lack of support you have been shown. I don't . Know if I've expressed that properly. I just wonder sometimes that despite not enough women having PND diagnosed that other women just get labelled as having PND as it is easier for the people doing the labelling. A form of gaslighting. Which your DP apparently has form for. Apologies if I overstep in making that comment.

Took me so long to write my post that about 10 of you have posted in the meantime!

chasing where do you have friends? Can you move there? If there's nothing to keep you where you are then maybe a clean break would be a good idea. Please go to your docs to get your prescription asap - it will help.

izzy fingers crossed for a good night for you xxx

And for us all!!

MM What PR said.

Let me know if you want one, Clarella :)

First wake up, two hours after he went down. Normally I'd get 4-5. I'm not sure this was a good idea...

Soory pass and chasing I have been, well, I dunno! We went swimming. Had a visitor. Dropped some clothes off at places (sold on FB).

I really don't know where the hours go! Arghhhh!

O self settled in the cot again tonight. I didn't even need to stay in the room! The only question I have is, WHY THE FUCK DID I NOT TRY THIS SOONER??!

Currently nomming a chinese. I don't remember the last chinese takeaway we had. Lovely!

O has found sucking his fingers, and occasionally a thumb to be more enjoyable. Still a dummy dodger. I keep offering it, in case. But no. No dummy mummy! I'd rather he had a dummy than his thumb. But then he doesn't do it much, so I suppose it's okay.

Chasing I will come and see you this week. I know I can't do monday, but I can do another day. Thursday seemed okay for you. Is this still the case? Do you fancy a day of window shopping, food, and company? I can get to you for around 11-12, and won't need to leave til late, O can sleep in the car on the way home.

kirrin Erm...nowhere actually. I have old school and uni friends but we rarely speak now, just the odd catch up on Facebook etc...They are all scattered around the country.

I literally do not have a single person I could call a friend. It's no wonder I'm fucking depressed.

Chasing you have happy memories of my area, and you'll always have a friend here to show you around

Same goes for you chasing I am sure you are depressed, and you abslutely should go to your GP, but don't let a PND diagnosis relieve your P and his family of the responsibility of what they have done to you. Not all women who are depressed after pregnancy have PND, and both of you have been put under heaps of stress directly caused by the people around you. By all means get help, and treatment - but don't ever, EVER allow yourselves to believe that their behaviour was caused by your state of mind.

Pidj The knobs. They don't know what they are missing. And how fucking rude of the school to not let you know either way.

VQ I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. It is a fucking minefield. I still have the CMP free formula here, I asked for pepti junior, as I read it is tolerated better (as in its less minging than the others, but who knows). I have 2 small cans, so I can post one if you wanted it.

MM Another one who wanted to say what PR said.

PR you are absolutely right and PND should surely be reason for him and his family to have given me more support, not the opposite.

Detective I can't let you come all this way just to see me. It's too far and I would feel horrendously guilty.

I wish I had a car. I would drive and drive and never come back. I'll come to the New Forest Pidj and live with the ponies.

Chasing I too am the same. No friends here.

Why don't we pop in to my friends while I am there. She is lovely, and I haven't seen her in 2 years. I met her online when I had ds1 and she was having her DS1 they have the same name!. We are very similar in our views!

She has a 5 year old and 2 year old too, and is a SAHM. I'm sure she would have time for the odd coffee/chat etc.

I can talk to DH I just feel shit doing it about how I feel

Il make time to speak this week to him about how I feel. I'm anxious all the time about CJ (DS3).
I do have Prozac but I just don't take them :-( I hate tablets as it is

Hope everyone else is ok xxx

M0na it took me a long time to pluck up the courage to take Prozac when I first had depression a year ago so I know exactly how you feel.

It sounds like you have a good relationship with your DP and I'm sure he would want to know how you are feeling

See my above post chasing .

I just read the conclusion this study of behavioural-educational intervention on sleep for primiparous women and their infants in early postpartum: multisite randomised controlled trial

It made me laugh.

Goodnight!

det that is funny ... will have look into it ... I want my extra 5.37 minutes