November 2012 - Will the Easter Bunny visit our babies?

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1707618-November-2012-The-thread-where-it-all-starts-to-get-easier-Pretty-please

Fuck yes stunt! Fingers crossed that is the cunting start of a mother fucking pattern. Fuck yeah

Yay stunt hope this is a sign of things to come

Oh eliza that has made me well up. YOU DID NOT FAIL TO FEED HER! You fed her. You were fobbed off time and time again by people who weren't interested. It was most certainly not you who failed. I mean that categorically. You did not fail.

Oh Eliza I'm sorry you feel like that, but you mustn't, really, it isn't your fault

Sweary wednesday welcome here.
Ffs i don't think there's a bodily fluid i haven't dealt with today.
Ds1 pooed his pants today at the local leisure centre. dixie am v jealous of your training experience. After the first couple in the potty it has massively gone downhill here. Wees are not too bad but every single poo has been in his pants or night pull-ups.
Both kids have vicious colds and afe streaming snot. Ds1 went right off his food which led to much wailing at ridiculous things (eg the bathroom towels being in the wash not on the rail). LO is even more sicky than normal with the snot. Ds1 has a slight nosebleed from all the snot.
Then to top it all off, i ate a dodgy bit of lasagne this evening and have had diarrhea and stomach cramps all evening. Ended up cuddling LO to sleep in the bathroom as didn't dare leave and he couldn't aettle due to coughing.
Thank goodness my husband has just returned from a eork overnighter as he's now clearing up the bombsite of our house.
Definitely had better days.
Would just like a nice sunny day with no snot. That would cheer me up no end!
haven't caught up with latest from yesterday but:
eliza glad you've had a nice break away
vq sorry about your feeding issues. Bf is touted as the easy option after the first few weeks but i think this is so untrue so well done you for making it this far.

You didn't fail eliza you did your best, it was just circumstances. All babies are different and just because we fed one well does to mean that another will be the same. You have done a fantabulous job and no less. It will be ok. big hugs.

Thanks kissy I really am.

I JUST WANT TO SCREAM AAAAHHHHHH TAKE THE FUCKING THING OUT OF ME

I am never ever ever ever having artificial hormones in me again. I shall use homeopathy for the menopause.

To be fair, I think the support I got in hospital with establishing bf with ds1 was great. It took a few days for him to get it and the bf support spent time demonstrating different positions, and checking how we were getting on. It did help that we had to stay in hospital for 3 nights for antibiotics tho, I don't know that we'd have got the same support if we'd gone home the next day. With Ted he just took to it immediately so didn't need any support.

Oh eliza just seen your post. Please don't think that, you sought help from so many people. It's really not your fault. About photos. I always thought i couldn't look back on old pics of ds1 without being reminded of my pnd, but actually with time it all gets better and you just remember tge better bits

kirrin make sure LO drinks and check there is output. Not much more you can do really. I am a bit of a mug as my kids tend to vom with a fever so I sleep on the floor sometimes and also check temp quite frequently. In day ice pops are great for getting liquid in. Hope she is soon better x

Evening ladies - only read last couple of pages as have stinking headache and after Dottie taking 2 hours to go bed in done in

Never heard of lip tie - must look up pics of tt and lt have only ever seen a real heart shaped tt at work

Such a shame no one had the support in their choice if feeding - our trust has just won full UNICEF baby friendly accreditation and it is one of the highlights of my job - getting a monkey of a baby and a new mum to breast feed successfully - though I do have a few issues with the training we receive on bfing - like if it hurts = poor attachment - no thrush, mastitis, vasospasm and sometimes just having a baby on your boob for 23 hours makes it hurt!!! And a few other beefs but I'm too tired and I'm sure you don't want to hear me ramble!

I hear by pledge that as a student midwife / qualified midwife will find out what tt & lt looks like and fight for poor feeders and also make damn sure anyone who wants help to bf will get the support needed!!!

Talking of bf - I might have to stop bfing dots ?? she keeps pulling off at the bedtime feed and its not filling her up like the bottle used to do - any ideas?? Will think it over when I get 5 mins to myself 2 weeks on weds!!

Sorry I haven't caught up - hugs to mommas & bubbas xx

eliza hugs you did not fail.

pass he still hates boobs. I wonder if hell be like that for life??!!

And this is why the whole ff/bf debate sucks, because the word 'failure' creeps in there. It's so bloody unfair we are encouraged to put so much pressure on ourselves it is just ridiculous. I am so bloody angry on your behalf eliza that after everything you have been through and done for your LO society has somehow allowed you to feel that way.

So many of you have gone through so much heartbreak these last months because of feeding, bad or none existent advice about feeding, weight gain none-issues especially the first few weeks when we should be happy and bonding. It is fucked up and I am pissed off about it.

Rant over.

And there is no excuse for tongue tie not being picked up before you leave hospital. Both mine had theirs snipped on discharge day. It takes less than two minutes to do and it's forgotten in a minute. And the lip tie on DD1 was pointed out and noted in her book. For a country that creates such a fuss about feeding it's pretty pathetic.

Rant really over now. Ear pus duties dealt with, sleeping baby snoring. Night all.

Thankful Thursday tomorrow :)

I'm trying to catch up. In page 15 but phone playing up so not sure I'll manage.
Still having a nightmare with J and sleeping. Also he seems to be having hysterical cryig fits when being watched by people other than DH and me. This is proving problematic as my mum and MIL will watch him to let me sleep but he won't let me :( nightmare which is made worse by fact my mum needs to watch him all day tomorrow for me and I'm dreading him crying all day for her :(

Eliza you didn't fail at anything. Please don't feel that way

jims what a shit day - literally. Hope tomorrow is better.

sophia just ((hugs)) That is a most bizarre side effect, given what the drugs are for.

Thanks VQ she is cooling down nicely, and her nappies have been wet all day so I think she's ok. Will check on her throughout the night.

izzy sorry J still isn't sleeping :( Hope tomorrow goes ok.

Yay to ministunt :)

I'm sure there are people /things I have missed - I'm finding it really hard to keep up. If so, sorry - it's not intentional.

N has been really fussy and clingy all day, but she's finally asleep so I'm off to bed too. I expect I'll see some of you around 3!

Night all xxx

It won't be bad when you're not there Izzy, the crying is for your benefit. FC all goes smoothly tomorrow.

Eliza honey you are anything but a failure. You did everything in your power to feed E. It didn't work out perfectly, as it hasn't for so many of us, but she will catch up on her weight gain and never look back. I'm sorry the tube feeding is a trial and I'm sure you can't wait until it's over. But rest assured this is a tiny part of E's story and in time you will be able to look back with fond remembrances of her first experiences and achievements.

My mum is a former midwife and now a health visitor with decades of experience including breastfeeding her own three children. Before J was born I was telling her about how I was planning to overcome the oversupply issues that DS1 and DS2 had. She listened to me with amazement and said that she has attended every breastfeeding training or lecture available to her throughout her career but she had never heard of oversupply or lactose overload. And she's one of the conscientious ones, so the HVs that are coasting on what they learned in their initial training may be even less well informed. The knowledge just isn't out there in the HCPs we meet at first contact. We should be happy that at least we have had the support of each other in this group. I'm sure a lot of us have managed our baby's feeding more easily following advice posted on here. I vote we congratulate ourselves for keeping some of us bfing, helping some of us mix feed or transition to formula, thrashing out the best way to make up bottles, supporting each other in our own decisions on how to feed our baby, and offering our own experiences to help others.

I vote we congratulate ourselves for keeping some of us bfing, helping some of us mix feed or transition to formula, thrashing out the best way to make up bottles, supporting each other in our own decisions on how to feed our baby, and offering our own experiences to help others.

seconded.

oh stunt here here!
30 mins sleep so far! now can feel milk running down me as she feeds .
FUCK!
...is that the last one?

Poo in sleeves?! Wow. I still giggle at M filling her sleepsuit legs wjilst on DPs knee skyping his parents

As suspected she had a complete meltdown at work tonight wanting fed

sophia you have my deepest sympathies. Pregnancy had almost made me forget how much I hate periods. I am on day 3 and have had to change my bedding twice already DESPITE setting alarms to pad change. I have been known to use tampons and those really horrible thick pads at the same time and still leak. And they are so bloody unpredictable. I have been known to bleed solidly for 5 weeks then go 3 months without one. hence not realising I was preggers till 10 weeks Obviously your predicament is a lot worse. My periods also went haywire when I was taking the pill, despite being told it would regulate and reduce them. I have also been told it is my own fault as I fucked about with my weight so much when I was going through puberty - apparently it's something of a minor miracle I managed to get pregnant (although having managed to do it whilst on the pill I feel super fertile!)

Remind me tomorrow to post what i was going to say about eczema and dodgy skin.

I am thankful for mars bars and coffee.
I am thankful that this too, shall pass, and all manner of things shall be well.
I am thankful for the playdate I'm going on in a few hours with J and the villages other SAHD and his awesome toddler (to a bubble disco, no less)
I am thankful I don't bf.
I am thankful for my lovely m-i-l and f-i-l.
I am thankful for tubigrips and words with friends and washing machines and bleach and Mr Tumble and more coffee and Julia Donaldson and the quiche and puzzles and the park and Apple Tree Farm for collectively helping me through each day.
I am thankful for J and L and especially the amazing MrsG (who is a lurker in the quiche btw)
Perhaps pertinent to this particular moment though, I am thankful that this goddamn magic extractor fan hasn't burned out yet.

Well said stunt

Night all, hope we all sleep well

First night feed. 4hr 40. Best first stretch in a while.

Hmm thankful Thursday? I'll get back to you.

Luis I summoned the powers of the extractor fan today to distract velcro baby while I emptied the dishwasher and battered the hoover around.

I am thankful that DP and I have made it through a week of nightshifts without killing each other.
I am thankful he is now off for a week as of 7am tomorrow and has promised to take over Tilly nights (expect a rant about 11pm today/tomorrow when this does not happen)
As always, I am thankful for you lovely lot!
I am thankful for my wonderful job and clients.
I am most of all thankful for our amazing dermatologist who touchwood has got on top of Tilly's skin woes

I am not thankful for this sodding cough.