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November 2012 - The thread where it all starts to get easier. Pretty please?

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StuntNun · 13/03/2013 22:29

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1703340-November-2012-Four-months-Oh-no-the-dreaded-sleep-regression

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sweetpea1112 · 16/03/2013 07:02

Awake for the day now. Oscar was very good last night.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 16/03/2013 07:05

Clever boy minidixie

How's things this morning sweetpea? Baby pea is in charge I think! Remember he adores you unconditionally. You are a mini team.

VQ ahhhhhhhhhhh. I like the hiding of the alarm plan. Could you not compromise on getting a fittness DVD that he an do in the home? Grin

Daddy' in charge this morning. I am still in bed! Grin

Contradictionincarnate · 16/03/2013 07:05

Dixie my dh is trying to teach dd hello ... she only really does the hell part she is 14 wks so think your lo is much advanced Smile maybe he should give up and just try hi instead!
vq what about if he takes the kids out for a run around in a park on weekends so you can just have lo? may have to wait for better weather though ... he will notice the weight loss that way! Smile

sweetpea1112 · 16/03/2013 07:08

I feel less strong today. Scared and a long day stretching ahead.

One step at a time. Oscar dressed. Me showered.

StuntNun · 16/03/2013 07:11

Don't worry Sweetpea, it is going to be a tricky time of it so don't have any preconceptions about how you should be feeling. If you're upset then give yourself permission to cry for a bit before you get on with things. My LO laughs when I cry! As far as he's concerned mummy is making a funny noise.

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ShellyBobbs · 16/03/2013 07:14

Dixie I'm sure I've heard Tommy saying hello and hiya aswell Grin

Rubbish night here too, but I've done all the housework Grin

ShellyBobbs · 16/03/2013 07:19

sweet You will be OK, and you will be ok because that violent bastard is not there. There is no danger if he's not there. Take things one step at a time lile you've said and if you feel yourself weekening, just cpme on here x

ShellyBobbs · 16/03/2013 07:19

OMG this phone!

glendathefedupwitch · 16/03/2013 07:21

Awwwww detective - I missed you too - so sad that O is having problems with feeding/vomiting and friggin ridiculous that you have to go private to get somewhere!! Hope you find someone who knows what the actual fuck is going on and can get little man sorted!!!

sweetpea yay glad LO had a good night - you don't have to be too strong - we are here for you and will provide you with balanced advice when you waiver, worry or fall to bits xxx for now take one step at a time and don't worry about the future xx

Yay dots did 11-7 little star!!! Was nice getting back into our luxury kingsize bed after the array of back breaking beds we've had the past week!!!

Today we've got to collect the truffalump & step sons, do mountains of washing, go food shopping and escape for a pedicure!!!

Hope the quiche has a sunshine Saturday xx

StuntNun · 16/03/2013 07:25

If you get time Sweetpea, start a post in Relationships. You can name change for it if you want more anonymity although it is a bit of a faff. There are a lot of people who have been or are still in exactly the same position as you and you will get very specific help and support on what you are going through.

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ValiumQueen · 16/03/2013 07:27

Jacob says hungry. All. The. Time.

I would like to report a miracle in Valium Palace. The King volunteered to take the wee prince downstairs and is giving him a bottle. The princesses woke and are down there too. I am in bed, soon to attempt sleep.

sweetpea I posted on FB x

DH has every exercise DVD going, and various games too. He has a cross trainer languishing in the garage. I was attempted to insert his alarm clock somewhere dark and smelly.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 16/03/2013 07:44

For the first time ever I am sorry that I don't still live in Rugby. I would be over with you without question sweetpea.

Tell him to get the bloody cross trainer out vq is only a few months till things are more manageable at home and he can go for a run then.

However valiumking can have a quiche sticker for thismornings actions and move up the zone board.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 16/03/2013 07:46

Question, how are all your babes talking Hmm O just squeals, blows bubbles and grunts?

Pikz · 16/03/2013 07:51

LO says no, yes and I'm fucking starving.

DP got told this morning. LO woke up at 6.20 and he put a pillow over his head and said I'm tired. So I replied and I'm fucking not... Don't worry I'll do 7 days a week and all the night feeds and stormed off down stairs. He got up and followed me. If now happy looking after LO as f1 is on and he hasn't realised. Fuckwit. He said he needed sleep to play hockey today!

Titsalinabumsquash · 16/03/2013 07:59

J says " hi ya" and "oh dear" apart from that lots of squeals, laughing and goos and gahs.

8pm until 3.30am then until 7am. I have a feeling it will be a long, tiresome weekend.

Cacacaz · 16/03/2013 08:03

Phew finally caught up with these threads

VQ wow! Enjoy the sleep. No way to the running in the morning, I think I would my Dh if he even suggested this.

sweetpea I hope you are okay, hugs xx

pr I think your plan for operation big girl bed sounds fantastic. I'm a nanny and have helped a few parents with bedtime issues with their little ones some not as successfully as others I always advise the same person does the night time routine for at least the first week as that tends to help with sleep association.

detective I hope you get some answers soon, you have had such a shit time recently

Dixie it sometimes sounds as if M says hiya too, although I did think I was imagining it!

rooty glad the wrap fits and you are very welcome

izzy hi 5 to both you and James

StuntNun · 16/03/2013 08:33

Am now worried about J's asymmetrical leg creases. The HV told me to make a GP appointment for him to get a referral, which was for next Wednesday but I cancelled it yesterday because I just couldn't handle yet another appointment. It's constant appointments here, not just for J's jabs etc. but various paediatricians for ADHD, dietitians, orthoptist, ophthalmologist, there's something every bloody week. I'm actually starting to get worried that DS2 is missing so much school with all these appointments. I was reassured by this hip dysplasia website since it's only J's thighs that have uneven creases. I wish DH could take J for one of his appointments but he's in Belgium next week he'd better not come back without chocolate.

Can I have a reality check here please. J has about 8 dirty nappies a day, feeds 10ish times a day, will go a maximum of 3 hours between feeds but it's more usually 90 minutes, and feeds for 40 minutes to an hour. I feel like I'm still caring for a newborn baby, not a four month old. I find the constant nappy changes quite wearing. He was changed at 7:10 from the night, had another poo while feeding (for forty minutes) and DH has just changed him again. That's three dirty nappy changes in an hour! Honestly I'm now glad I didn't go down the reusables route as I would be doing four nappy washes a week at this rate. Oh it sounds like he's hungry again .

I got more sleep last night but I seem to be more tired this morning. Worse still I can't quite remember what happened last night. DH says J had two feeds but it's all a blur. I even managed nearly an hour's nap yesterday morning. But I keep forgetting what I was doing and I stupidly drove the car yesterday then had to get DH to drive back when I realised I wasn't safe to be driving as I'm not convinced I would react quickly or appropriately in an emergency.

My mum's coming over on Tuesday morning though so I'll have a bit of support then. Her plane gets in at 9:30 and it's the breastfeeding support group at 10, do you think it would be alright to take her to it? She is a HV so she's well used to baby groups and clinics.

Sorry for rambly post. J had quietened down now (he's watching the F1 qualifying with DH) so I think I'll try and get back to sleep until DS1 wakes up and thunders down the stairs.

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daisychain76 · 16/03/2013 08:35

Morning all, on train to work. Feel really weird and groggy ~ lots of sleep last night as H wwent down at 8.30 and l made the. mistake of thinking l?d just rest on bed for a min, next thing l know it was midnight and dh is giving H a bottle, then he wasn?t up again til 5! Think my body has forgotten how to cope with that much sleep.

Hugs sweetpea.

Evil l give H water at mealtimes in a tommy tippee cup so he has something to experiment with in his high chair (one more week til solids!)

Thinking of food (still) am in town today so may have to get one of those salted caramel pecan squares from Starbucks...

misslaughalot · 16/03/2013 08:38

Glad that O got some good sleep last night sweetpea. I second what was said about you rereading what you wrote last night about how it made you feel, things can seem very different in the cold light of day.

Well I think we've reached sleep regression in the laughalot household. Babylaughalot got 9 hrs sleep but woke 5 times, sleeping for stretches between 25 mins and 2 hrs. She's 15 weeks but would be 17 weeks on Monday by EDD.

Doesn't help that DP keeps snoozing his alarm. 4 times this morning. He'll go back to sleep straight away after each one while I'm lying there awake and trying to settled a disturbed baby. Need to find a solution to this or tell his to stop being so selfish

Well, at least we're up in time to head to a second hand sale which I missed last month. Fingers crossed for some good bargains.

Pikz · 16/03/2013 08:42

Stunt except for during the night we feed every 2-3 hours here and even on formula he has 2-3 dirty nappies a day, when he was ebf he had about 8-10.

Take your mum, I took mine when she was off work. It was useful to have extra pairs of hands. Also they actually seem to enjoy them!

Sophiathesnowfairy · 16/03/2013 08:51

stunt yes take your mum with you. She is coming to help you out and be with you. It does sound like You are in An early weeks Rythmn and he is snacking, but then I don't breast feed and I know it changes things.

Is the large amount of nappies because he is snacking or is it something else I wonder?

It would be interesting for you to take the theory of GF or the Baby Whisperer and work out your own bespoke Stunt Rountine that fits in with school runs etc. There is a GF toddler and baby book which sort of integrates school/nursery runs which I have but have leant to someone. If she has finished with it I could send it to you if you would like.

Will be I forested to hear how you do at the sales misslaughalot

Evilwater · 16/03/2013 09:07

Morning all, sorry to read about all the bad nights. N slept from 6-745. He woke at 12 and 430 for milk.

N is 23 weeks and still not talking, lots of noises that almost sound like words. No rolling over yet too. Sad

Evil

Bryzoan · 16/03/2013 09:09

Sweetpea - just get through an hour at a time today. Your mission is just to survive it. Things will get better. You will be awesome. In time sign up for some more baby groups / classes it will help you build more rl support. And keep posting here - we all think you are ace.

Stunt - sorry to hear things are hard your way. We are the se sometimes with appts. It is vey wearing. That website you linked to is a great one. Dd's surgeon is on their advisory board. So the info there is very relaible. Nonetheless if you can bear it I would get it checked to be safe.

G is 15 wks, bf and feeding every 2-3 hrs mostly but with evening clusters. One or 2 major poos a day.

Dh has taken dd swimming - hurrah! though I did have to get up, get her dressed and help get everything together to get them out the door on time. Back in bed with g now though - lovely Smile

Bryzoan · 16/03/2013 09:12

It would be crazily early for any of them to be actually talking - noises that sound like words with a bit of imagination are much more likely all round. Still so lovely to hear though.

barefootwalker · 16/03/2013 09:20

Jeez you guys are on fire! You whipped through the last thread and this one seems to be disappearing too! I am admitting defeat in my attempts to catch up.

Stunt - that sounds like the routine we had early days, you must be absolutely exhausted. Glad your Mum is coming over and I hope that you get some rest. Definitely take her to the group, she'll probably enjoy it.

Sweet - Thanks I've posted on FB but I hope you get some RL support today. Everyone here is thinking of you but sometimes you just need a proper hug and a shoulder to lean on. Maybe your neighbour? Stay strong and know that you are keeping yourself and O safe xx

All is well in the barefoot camp. No signs of the dreaded sleep regression yet (17 weeks on Monday), we had 7 hours straight before first feed last night and even had 9 hours earlier this week. Daytime cot napping is still impossible though, apparently we can do anywhere else (even a table in a cafe yesterday!!) but the cot is only for nights. Hmmmm

G is mainly gurgling with an occasional squeal but she did her first giggle a few days ago and DH and I are sure she said hello (well "ewwoww" was actually what came out but we can pretend we have some kind of child genius).