December 2012: This too shall pass, this too shall pass

[HoneyMumandSon]

keep repeating the mantra...

Oh, good reminder - I need to get some vitamins. I didn't realise I'm supposed to be taking them as I'm breastfeeding. Has everyone else been given the same recommendation?

IsThat, I hope you feel better soon. Ditto your daughter, Spotty. Winter seems to be so long this year, and all the bugs seem to be hanging round as well.

Eggs, I think I'm going to try C out in the buggy seat. Her head control is much improved but not perfect and I think she'll slide around a bit. Worth a go though.

C has been in the cot for over an hour now, and asleep for around 35 mins. I've had to settle her twice, and once she self-settled. Actually, maybe make that twice. (Sorry if this is terribly boring - I find it useful to write it down! I can hear the groaning chorus of 'Jeez, MaMaPo, get a word document!' from here!) She's grizzling now, I might give her a minute or two to see if she'll fall asleep again.

don't be silly Mamapo, like all women post-baby you've lost your internal monologue and instead of talking to the baby you're telling us!

Good luck with jabs and DD's appt Spotty.

Happy birthday WL hope your day improves.

DS is fast asleep in his pram in the conservatory. I want to go out for a big walk but MiL is coming at 2 so I've got to wait in. She's arranged to come every day since Friday but was ill with the cold that we all have and didn't want to give it to J , despite me telling her he already got it off her on mother's day. If she doesn't turn up today she can make arrangements with DP one morning before work.

I emptied my washing basket on Tuesday. Just come to do the washing and there's 6 loads, plus our bedding that J threw up all over last night. It's going to take all day.

We've got four loads and dp emptied it on Saturday I can't do anything today though. Dd really is poorly.

My dad found his colleague/friend dead and tried to save him but it was too late. Heart attack they think. So, so sad.

Don't be silly mamapo I moan and babble on more than all of you out together

IsThat I'm not surprised you're run down your ds has been having this growth spurt for ages

WL I hope you're enjoying your day

Happy birthday WL!

spotty that's so sad about your dad's friend. It must have been so traumatic for your dad - hope he is ok.

mamapo are you moving back to Melbourne?

We had an incident today when my husband was cutting Z's nails with clippers (against my will as I wanted him to bite them) and he cut a bit of his skin at the top of his thumb. Poor Z cried and cried and my husband was cuddling him but I noticed the blood and I was holding a tissue tight onto z's little thumb but couldn't stop it bleeding. We're staying with relatives who have 3 young children including a new baby so they knew what to do and put a plaster on it which did the trick; the first plaster he just bled through but the second one has done the trick. His whole thumb is wrapped in a sticking plaster. He's been such a brave boy and hasn't cried since then apart from when he was hungry. Once the plasters took, I put him on the boob for a while which helped settle him.

Oh seconds poor Z! I think lots of parents have probably done that!

He is quite sad, says he keeps seeing his face as he looked like he was sleeping

Spotty - so sorry to hear about your dad's friend, that's really sad and must have been such a shock. Also hope your DD's apt goes well and she's better soon.

Seconds - that must have been so scary, hope Z is ok now. Hate, hate nail cutting.

WL - happy birthday

Eggs - hope your first day back at work is going well.

Isthat - feel your pain with the mouth ulcers (literally, as I've got a huge one myself atm). I'm taking vits, and also have a far better diet than I did at this stage last time as I need to make sure DS1 eats well, but still quite run down. Think bf can take an awful lot of nutrients esp at growth spurt time.

Well, after an inauspicious start we've had quite a good morning. Wanted to take DS1 to a new group, but we arrived late to the venue to find the group had moved. Instead however there was a really good playgroup on. Everyone was lovely and welcoming, and they had stuff for both babies and toddlers which is great as can be tricky to find things that are suitable for both boys. So my bad planning's resulted in us finding something new to do on a Monday.

Viral throat infection bloody viruses

Not much to do but wait it out, Spotty? :(

Quiet day here - C still a little unwell, we are going through nappies like mad. Thank god she moved into 3-6month baby grows, as she's having loads of clothes changes every day and we never had many 0-3 outfits.

Seconds - poor Z! I am destined to do that someday - I hate it when C scratches herself so I trim her nails a lot. I'm sure he'll be fine.

Oh, and yes, we're moving back to Melbourne. Really looking forward to it. We'll be back in November, just in time for summer. :)

Yep it's annoying there's no quick fix as no one's getting any sleep which is making us all grumpy! Also she's missing nursery which is really expensive!

Ds's jabs went ok. He cried loads though and for ages they're such big needles. He's still asleep now

Poor little z and you +seconds* - seeing your baby hurt is so upsetting.

spotty poor your dad :-(

Good news on a new group ispy

Today I'm trying T with a dummy again after it being so hard to settle her after night feeds lately. She seems to be sucking it quite well not just spitting it out like before, and it def helped her settle in the pram this morni g and initially in the car seat this pm but alas didn't keep her asleep after we got in. The trickiest thing will be nights - she is a tummy sleeper so think dummy pressed into her face might be uncomfy. Will try her on her back at bed time with the dummy and see what happens.

Am avidly watching fb for news of dhs cousin who is having her baby today!

Dilemma: am sat here with baby C asleep on me (naturally) which is all well and good BUT she did a poo just before. Do I keep her asleep and run the risk of yet another new white babygrow covered in poo (and possibly me as well) or wake her to change her?

(And to think I used to be smart and debate important world issues.)

I wish someone would bring me some chips doused in white vinegar. (None of this malt rubbish.)

I would leave her

How frustrating Spotty. Hope the virus gets lost soon so your DD can get back to her usual self.

I'd be tempted to leave her too Mama - suppose it depends how bad the smell gets .

I made the right call - I left her and she kept sleeping until our cleaner arrived and unzipped her coat. That noise made her start sobbing! Weird child!

Good evening ladies! Sorry some if you are poorly or have poorly LOs. Hope you all get a decent nights sleep.

spotty your poor dad (and the family of the friend) must have been such a shock.

mama this is definitely the place to moan where no-one will tell you that you should just get on with whatever/ pull yourself together/ other not very helpful supportive advice. I find myself unable to keep up popping on here mostly just to remind myself that what we are going through is normal!

I have gas a rotten cold the last two weeks ish and now have some fancy cough medicine from the chemist. I think T has possibly got a touch of it - he has been doing strange poos... The best way to describe them would be "foamy" and over the weekend they were a bit green. I remember green poos being discussed; but has anyone else noticed slightly foamy poo? Sorry, I don't have anything more interesting up talk about

Except that today we started our postnatal fitness class (T gets to come with & socialises with the other babies while the mummies work out) its all about training pelvic floor, tummy and chest muscles. Even better the health insurance pays 80% of the course

nutella green and foamy can be baby getting a higher ratio of fore milk to hind milk, maybe try feeding off the same side for 2 hrs before switching.

spotty I hope dd gets better soon and hope DS feels better after his jabs.

mama I think we all feel we're a bit 'mememe' on this thread, but I think that's a lot of what makes the thread what it is!

Still going a max of 1.5 hrs during the day, and 2.5 hrs at night.

Marking a place for later on when I'm doing my umpteenth night feed.... Is there a 14 week growth spurt?! DD was sleeping fairly well (for her) until about a week ago and now she's waking for at least 3 feeds in the night. Zzzzz

I thought ds wasn't going to go down tonight because we didn't get home until seven (his bedtime) and when I put him down he was all awake and chatty. But thumb went in and off he went. Hope dd sleeps better tonight.

Hope ds surprises you tonight IsThat is there anyway dh could give you a break and do a feed?

Spotty hope your DD is ok.

Mama this is the right place to say whatever you want. We all say what we want.

Isthat same here with the sleep except its 1.5 hours max of a night and 2 hours of a day. Its been like this since she had her 12 week jabs (2 weeks ago on wednesday). I asked the HV at baby clinic for advice and she actually said could your DH or mum not help. My answer was well yeah they could but thats only a short term answer. H has really struggled to sleep since birth. She had no answer to that! FX that swopping her to the cot helps

spotty he could but from experience DS will drink 7oz of formula and then still want boob (and empty it) he's done this twice this week

DS is trying to roll over, he's at the 'hips off the floor and turn onto side stage'. That'll mean I have to move up from the Moses basket doesn't it?!

Ah that's probably why he's having trouble sleeping for a long time he's learning lots of new things! Hmm yes Moses may not be the best option anymore or he will be the second baby on the thread to flip out of one!

Yeah that's true in the last week he's learnt to reliably grab his feet and giggle too

Really sorry to hear about your dad's friend Spotty

Sleepless so far the life of a newborn seems to be one long growth spurt. for you

We've had a screaming meltdown here. Against my better judgement I've got him up and given him the 2nd bottle he wants. If it ends up all over me again I'll cry.

First night of operation travel cot tonight. He's in moses basket inside it until new mattress arrives for it. The provided one is so thin!

Fx for Willyou.

I need to consider the whole 'moving out of the crib' issue. C isn't in a moses basket, but a larger crib. However, the sides aren't very tall and she is starting to lift her hips as well. I wonder when I'll have to be like IsThat and consider plan B. If so, I will be looking to WillYou for advice as I think our last bed option for C will be a travel cot, not a proper one.

Nutella, hope you feel better soon. I feel a bit hard done by, having had a cold with a lingering cough, quickly followed by a weekend of gastro. Of course, now it's Monday, I feel fine. I think all this sleep deprivation makes us all susceptible to coming down with stuff.

Hales sorry to hear about sleep issues. Would you consider sleep training in a little while? I have a copy of the No Cry Sleep Solution and while it doesn't really recommend training as such until 4 months, I've found it helpful to consider good habits/things to try/things to consider from birth until then. It might be good to seek out if you can.

Right. Bedtime. I expressed this morning so my husband can do a midnight feed - fx she keeps on sleeping for hours after that.

Happy sleepy dust to all the babies.

Ha Mama my lovely self settler who goes off straight away has been up 5 times already! Screaming the house down. Looking to put in the garage next if he gets back up again