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November 2012 - Four months? Oh no, the dreaded sleep regression!

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StuntNun · 08/03/2013 20:11

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1698894-November-2012-BFPs-Already-You-girls-are-going-to-have-some-fun

Instead of marking place, please could those of us with older siblings post something (positive) they are looking forward to as our babies get older. I think it would cheer us up since so many are struggling at the moment.

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kissyfur · 11/03/2013 19:07

That's so sad YW. How awful.

Welcome back to the thread catbag, you were missed

Sweet I think F is teething too as she's definitely been off her food today, it's so stressful when they won't eat!

Glad the weaning is going well PR

BigPigLittlePig · 11/03/2013 19:10

Have just discovered a dimple between Fs buttocks. Fucking dr google - am scared shitless she has something hideous now. Will be off to the gp asap paranoid mummy alert

sweetpea1112 · 11/03/2013 19:10

It is isn't it kissy? I worry for him obviously and then I'm also worrying that tonight is going to be terrible because he's hungry and then tomorrow will be awful because he's overtired....

I keep telling O that teeth will be very useful to him when he is older but he's still not convinced Grin

LuisGarcia · 11/03/2013 19:12

Having read YW's news and several other threads on MN today, I'd like to apologise on behalf of men.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 11/03/2013 19:17

YW I echo what sweetpea says, especially in relation to your massively adusted diet to feed your LO. I dont think I could have done that. Impressed with all of you who make such adjustments.

TheDetective · 11/03/2013 19:17

Thank you YW I really appreciate your advice! From reading around, it seems that people think reflux is just a neurotic mum thing.

All I keep reading is that if your baby is gaining weight, then it isn't reflux, and isn't CMPI.

Angry

I'm quite sure now that O does have reflux. I just don't know what he needs to help him!

We've had 2 quiet settled periods today, where he hasn't needed to be in arms. Right now, he is between my feet, semi sitting, and has been there for 15 minutes, happy! Strange child! This is probably one of the better days we've had, although he has napped terribly, frequent wakings while still tired. Not had much in the way of vomit or acid flare ups. I started back with the Losec MUPS last night. Perhaps this is the way to go?

He has only fed 12oz since 9pm last night though. :(

kissyfur · 11/03/2013 19:23

Sweet hope your O has a good feed before bed for you Smile

BPLP my DD1 has one of those, quite a deep one too and I was so worried about it when she was small but she is 100% fine. Am sure the paediatrician who looked over your LO as the hospital would have mentioned it to you if it was anything to be concerned about. They did with my DD but we got her looked at by a senior paediatrician and the GP and both said it would be fine, and it was.

YellowWellies · 11/03/2013 19:40

PR we've only been here a couple of months so I don't know them but think I know her by sight (its not next door but about ten houses away).

sweetpea1112 · 11/03/2013 19:40

Thanks kissy he just took 4oz so I'm happy with that Smile.

YellowWellies · 11/03/2013 20:00

we know you're lovely - you're a member of our quiche Smile

Awww thanks quiche - sniffle - that's cheered me up. DH is walking Captain Hysteria around for ten mins so he's calm enough to feed. It's going to be a long night I fear. I think when we have a second one I'm going to cut dairy and soy out of my diet for the last month of pregnancy so its out of my system and maybe avoid all this shit? (Assuming I don't have another early one).

Det silent reflux babies especially boys are often little chubbers (Jonas is chubbier than his weight belies he's just short from being prem) as instinctively they seem to know breast milk is an antacid and associate food with comfort. Whereas the reflux / CMPI girls I know seem to have made the link that food = the cause of the pain in the first place and struggle to put on weight and tend to avoid food. Maybe they're just not as fussed about boobs!!! Grin Mindst Jonas is having hissy fits at the breast today (one side in particular any ideas?) so I'm likely to be speaking out of my arse.

Mummy needs gin Envy Lots and lots of fucking gin.

And cigarettes. I so would tonight! (I won't really - been quit over a year now). But the thought of going out into our peaceful garden with views over the forth to Edinburgh and closing the door to leave DH with the poor screaming boy for a while - would be tres tempting. Sad

misslaughalot · 11/03/2013 20:01

Oh YW how sad. It's beyond my understanding how bad things have to be to get to that point Sad

Has Apple not posted today? Hope you're ok whatever is happening?

Sweet I was coming here to aske the opposite question! Babylaughalot is feeding a LOT at night and i was wondering if it could be because she is teething? The last 2 nights she has had what seemed to be a very big feed before going down in her cot, then waking 5 minutes later with hysterical crying. I initially thought it was wind that was waking her, but more feeding was the only thing that would calm her, and she won't feed if she has wind. 4 times it happened last night, and it got to the point I was worrying she would be sick from feeding too much, but she went to sleep happily instead Confused

Very red cheeks today, alternating from one side to the other through the day so I'm sure there are teeth on the move.

fairimum · 11/03/2013 20:05

just wondering why the reflux babies are not on a combinationn of omeprazole and domperidone? my older two both had really bad reflux and then (only talking 2 years ago) they prescribed the two together as standard... the domperidone helps them move the food through the stomach faster so less likely to be sick/create more acid...

YellowWellies · 11/03/2013 20:07

BPLP Jonas had a sacral dimple when born I'm sure of it. It was open too for the first day - but is now closed. I thought I'd imagined it due to diamorphine but just seen a pic online!

PetiteRaleuse · 11/03/2013 20:09

I took up the fags again when I stopped bf'ing
Bt not as much as before

Luis as ong as you'e not an arrse or whatever the military forum is.....

PetiteRaleuse · 11/03/2013 20:10

LO has a sacral dimple too, as did DD1, and my DH. Closed now :)

YellowWellies · 11/03/2013 20:11

Hi fairi we tried the combo but domperidone gave him diarrhoea and left him famished (feeding hourly!). I don't know how you fed your LOs but my doc reckoned it rarely helps BF babies as BM naturally leaves the stomach v quickly anyway.

Elizadoesdolittle · 11/03/2013 20:12

Just a quick update before I catch up on thread, it seems that E has mild silent reflux. Why it's taken all this palaver to get to this conclusion is beyond me. I'm guessing if she would have taken a bottle we would have known along time a go. Although she doesn't display a lot of the characteristics of a reflux baby and certainly doesn't appear in pain like yw's J and detective's O (and other reflux babies on this thread, I know there are more). She's going to be put on ranitidine but they also want to do an endoscopy next week to look for any damage and to see if there are any other underlying medical issues.

We have been told we can go home with her ng tube in so I've been doing the latest feeds to get used to it. DH being trained tomorrow. God help us as he has a very unsteady hand! And the best news is we've been told that Wednesday is release date Grin so just one more full day and then I'm outta here. I'll believe it when I see it but the end is in sight. Thank fuck!!

PetiteRaleuse · 11/03/2013 20:15

BPLP I am fairly sure someone would have picked up by now if it was a dimple worth worrying about. The main risk if it is closed is that it infects later in life, as it did for my DH. Which was manageable. If it's open it's a little more worrying. When LO was born I couldn't see the bottom of it and freaked out thanks to Dr Google. My paed laughed at me :) :(

BigPigLittlePig · 11/03/2013 20:19

Woohoo, so pleased for you eliza. Puts my worries into perspective!

Thanks for the dimple reassurance, the rational part of my brain says, they're common and almost always nothing, but the dr-google-fuelled-paranoid-mummy part is in meltdown. Ridiculous. God knows what I'd be like if she had something properly wrong.

BigPigLittlePig · 11/03/2013 20:21

Bloody dr google eh pr!
If I could be bothered, I would dig out my paediatric textbook and get some proper stats/reassurance. Sadly am too lazy to do this.

TheDetective · 11/03/2013 20:29

BPLP sacral dimple is ok! Quite common. Only problem is when open!

Fuck you dr google!!

Would say more but one hand typing!

YellowWellies · 11/03/2013 20:33

I'm not going to Google sacral dimples. I'm not!

PR now I know why you sound so calm!!!!

Eliza welcome to the club that no one wants to join reflux club. Poor E! Still a diagnosis means treatment and once she's on one or a combo of meds / diet changes that works for her - you'll get your beautiful daughter back feeding and happy xxx

TheDetective · 11/03/2013 20:34

Oscar enjoyed rug munching this evening. Carpet time prefered to playmat time. Odd child!

Evilwater · 11/03/2013 20:35

Wow YW and Detective. Huge hugs.

For every one else, Thanks. I think it must be the weather why all the babies are getting upset. N is has been grumpy most of the day, and it's taken an extra 15 minutes of rocking to get him to sleep.

TMI!!
P is very horney, and has bit the dishes way, washed and filled N bottles. Hs even helped with putting him to sleep!

Some Wine for all of us tonight.
Evil

kissyfur · 11/03/2013 20:38

Don't do it YW! Step away from the google! Smile

I have had real cravings for a cigarette since having LO, gave up ages ago tho