November 2012 - Four months? Oh no, the dreaded sleep regression!

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1698894-November-2012-BFPs-Already-You-girls-are-going-to-have-some-fun

Instead of marking place, please could those of us with older siblings post something (positive) they are looking forward to as our babies get older. I think it would cheer us up since so many are struggling at the moment.

Oh no pr. Colds are rotten cos they drag on and on. DS1 is off with a stomach bug today which means my main activity will be playing top trumps. Also means postphoning starting weaning for a day or two til all bugs have left the building.

Hope apple is ok.

H had amazing night last night ~ down 8.30, up for feed at 2, up for day 6.30. I know its all relative, but l?ll take that!

Thanks for my award VQ my card is up in the kitchen and I smile every time I walk past it :)

welcome skoggy :)

Glad you got some sleep lilliana and MM , and VQ hopefully last night was just a one off and J will go back to sleeping longer tonight.

It is freezing here and I've just walked to the doctors in a minor snow storm! Luckily it's stopped now and I get to sit and feed N and drink coffee while DP takes the dogs out.

Apple how are you today? garden has it right, men are hard work. and loving your baby means you want so much for them.... big hugs and I hope you have RL support. am happy to chat / listen on the phone if you need that, PM me xoxoxo

missmummy what a selfish git! sounds like you will need a runaround if you're not going to murder the twunt

skoggy welcome, am at your girls' sleep, share your secrets!

BPLP that sounds so cute! we are borrowing bouncer from friend, now I can't wait to try it

hugs to everyone else as another week begins. it's snowing here, huge fat flakes, and I'm sitting looking out at it as I pump. LO down for her first nap of the day and all is peaceful.

rooty I worry that if we buy two cars he will claim the 'new car' as his and I'll end up with the small crappy runabout. Again. The same thing happened when I was commuting almost 1000 miles a week and he gave me the really unreliable death trap and kept the newer car for his walkable commute. I must sound so childish but it is definitely my turn for a new car

skoggy welcome !
vq no one I can call . and still haven't heard anything she isn't a best mate we met in uni and sometimes only see each other a couple of times a year we have got closer since TTC though and lots of texts back and forth during her pregnancy!
may try fbooking her dp if I don't hear anything soon!

MM nope I'm still off colour (a lot better than I was but still definitely contagious) so I'm going to cry off the haggis meet up. It wouldn't be fair to share this lurgy! Don't feel you have to rearrange as I can make the next one. Equally if the weather stays this snowy I can understand if its postponed as Glasgow is a long drive for most folks and getting stuck so far from home might mean cacacaz has a lot of house guests!!! Just let us know what's decided.

As for the car issue I would suggest that the newest, safest car goes to whoever drives Tilly around most often I.e. you - there is no way he can argue against that logic without being an entirely selfish twunt.

missmummy you don't sound childish at all, you sound justifiably hurt and pissed off by him putting himself first all the time. which men are generally so good at, sorry Luis. can you insist you are insured on one and he the other? would the costs be better that way? some sort of trickery that leaves him no choice

Contra I managed to keep a live update going on this thread with a bit of help from dp as a form of distraction until just before I hit the pushing stage. At which point I totally lost it! I also enjoyed my first few hours with M and DP before reconnecting with the outside world. Could your friend be doing something similar??

in other news dd has just woken up so 12-11 with feed at 7.30 wonder what will happen with dh away and not here to wake her! If only she would do 9-8 or something? but she is only 14 wks tommorow and I think I have to enjoy these going back to bed sessions while I can ... also means dh gets to spend plenty of fun time with dd in the evenings.

No probs at all yw - sending lots of get well hugs your way. x If vq pass and cacacaz (and anyone i have missed ) are still keen I will go assuming there is no more snow!

rooty and yw this is my logic. Now we have Tilly he might see sense I should have the main car. Buying a second would just be a luxury to benefit him and him alone. I might suggest he buys a mountain bike instead. Or a small van. Something totally impractical for M and I to use!

Morning all.

Firstly, hugs to apple, I hope you are ok. As everyone has said, we are here to talk if you need to

contra- my DH tweeted and facebooked all the way through my labour. It was a Homebirth so I had the constant attention of two midwifes and he had nothing to do (his excuse). He announced I was fully dilated at 12 noon then didn't update again until 7.30pm. This was because I ended up in hospital having an emergency section. All was well but everyone was worried. My best friend isn't on Facebook and he forgot to text her until the next evening, she was beside herself, thought something terrible had happened. I'm sure your friend is fine, when her baby was born I'm sure Facebook became very unimportant to her.

I've just taken B for her second jabs in the freezing snow. I really hate jabs

Bloody hell, I'm finding it hard to keep up.

We've had a nice weekend. M has turned in to a none napping baby unless she's in the car.

What's happening with the northern meet up on Weds?

I was hoping that toomany it wasn't face book though was a personal text
will give it another few hours before I genuinely get worried!

Morning all

Sounds like there were some better nights last night. Long may it continue

Our night was ok, a 4 hour first stretch and two more feeds before up for the day at 8 (Oscar that is, I was up at 6 having hardly slept)

Hope you are ok apple

So, I told DP today that I think my depression is back. He asked me what I thought would help so I said more sleep and eating properly. He has offered to do all night feeds for as long as I need to catch up on sleep to see if that helps. Whilst working full time. Bless him.

We discussed it and although I feel terribly guilty about it and a failure as a mother, I have agreed to let him do the night feeds this week so see how I feel.

Like I said, I feel so guilty about this and like I am abandoning my baby. I know I need to get better and that it is in everyone's best interest, but its still not easy to accept.

Good mornings.

lilly it could be reflux. How does she smell? Seems a weird question but this was a key symptom for P. she reeked of stomach acid all the time - she actually made me gag her breath smelled so bad. Unlike most reflu babies P is ok on her back most of the time. Occassionally it is a problem but not often.

contra my sister texted all the way through her labour and then didn't text for a full 12 hours after the baby was born. Made me worry considering the half hourly updates but all was well - she was just busy.

Sounds like you had a nice day lilliana. I would also have been a wee but about getting a games console - and I really like games! The thinking behind it is lovely though.

Aw fairi your LO is a wee dinky!

Welcome skoggi

I would love to see pics of the triplets garden.

P has started making this utterly horrendous high pitched squeal. Usually it is when she is tired but sometimes she just does it for entertainment. She was doing it yesterday when DH was trying to put her in the car seat. He was trying not to wake me up and had bee trying for 20 minutes when I eventually came down. Is it at all possible to stop her doing this? It is completely ear piercing. I know it is probably just a phase she is going through and it will stop as soon as if has started but if there is any way of encouraging her not to do it I would be most grateful.

sweet sorry about the cross post. That was a really brave move and one that should really help I am sure. I do empathise with your feelings about being a failure for not doing the night feeds but it is simply not the case. As parents we have a repsonsibility to do the best we can by our children - this means taking care of our health and wellbeing. He is obviously worried about you and keen to do whatever he can to make things better for you. Let him do this.

Stooopid app just lost my post again! Rah

In summary, sorry to all having a hard time.

MM your DP is taking the piss with his selfish behaviour no? Can't believe some of the stuff he has done.

Snow here so no Playgroup for DD1. LO being a pickle again and not feeding v well

sweetpea do what you need to do to get yourself better - it's brilliant that your dh is able to help out in that way, and as you say, it may be that if you can get on top of your sleep, you will be in a better place to deal with the depression.

mm dh is obsessed with getting a moped (wtf!? he's 28 not 18) but I have to remind him that there is no moped I'm aware of which he can pick F up from the childminder on.

I'm cooking venison stew. I had high hopes for it but it smells revolting at the moment. Hoping it saves itself and becomes yummy, because it's turning my stomach currently.

mm as YW says, whoever has baby has best car. Simple.

sweetpea hopefully sleep will sort it, but if not, see your GP. Being a mummy is one long guilt trip, but this is something you should not feel bad about x

it is truly miracle Monday for me ...my friends baby has arrived by c section as he was too big to deliver naturally at 7lbs 14 ...you can imagine how tiny my friend is! can't wait for a cuddle now!

Massage + rhyme time = zonked out baby on my chest :o

He's got a dry, sore looking patch at the base of his willy. Could it be nappy rash? Should i metanium it or just give it an airing every time i change him?

Lovely news contra. Pidj l would use the cream and lots of airing. I think nappy rash is something you have to nip in the bud.

Sweetpea my dh always gives H a bottle at night. It gives them some quiet time together and is a tiny speck compared to the avalanche that is motherhood!

Meant to say pass can?t think of anything except distraction techniques to try and stop the squealing. Perhaps she?s destined to be an opera singer?!

3 posts in 1 day ~ can you tell l?m stuck at home. Back to top trumps....

sweetpea you need to take care of yourself as well as O, having DP do some night feeds is not failing. O has 2 parents and one of them needs some help right now. Sleep deprivation is awful and can definitely have a detrimental affect on you.

Congrats to your friend contra

mm we do the whoever has the girls has the best car thing - it works for me us.

Just off to see if I can get my phone fixed, bloody thing.

Just spent over 200 euros on stuff for the pets - food, flea and tick repellant, a DAP collar for the dog as the bitch across the way is on heat. At the weekend spent a fortune online buying stuff for the DDs. I don't begrudge them anything - am happy to buy them all what they want if I can afford it. But there's nothing left over for me. And I want to get my hair done, and a few beauty treatments, and some clothes that fit, and maybe a book or two.

And sometimes I wonder when there will be some money spare for me.