December 2012 - the fourth trimester is nearly over

[MaMaPo]

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Hello everyone

I feel like I've fallen off the face of the earth.. Been so so busy, am in the process of buying a new house - eek!
With DP working 7 day weeks, some 14 hour days, and everything to sort there's no time!
Hope everyone and their babies are doing well my goodness i don't think I'll ever catch up...

MaMa no I just took the whole thing out and it seemed to work well. At first I thought it wasn't going to be comfortable for him, but once I'd tightened it up the carrier seemed to fit round his legs and back nicely. I think his head would have been bobbling about too much with just the pillow insert.

Seconds just had another look on the website, I thought they were cartons but actually they're just sachets of powder!! Sorry for the confusion. How annoying, I wonder why only NAN does cartons. How was the flight? I hope you're not too jet lagged?

Nutella that is hilarious! When DS1 was born DD was 2.5. I remember the first time I changed his nappy in front of her she clutched her hand over her mouth in a silent scream, and then exclaimed "His bum is BROKEN!"

cookies good luck with the move! Has the house purchase gone through? If so congrats!

Thank you for letting me know. My HV is really supportive although makes odd comments now and again. I guess i should be grateful i've got a good one.

Congratulations on the new home Cookie.

I don't know about ergoes, tried the library one and hated it - buckles in the armpits

R has been legs out since birth, only carry i know and the way i was taught when pg. To make a head support:
Roll up muslin
Place on outside of wrap, around back of neck
Fold edge of wrap over to hold in place

You still need a hand there if bending but not for normal walking etc :)

pidj that's a good tip, how big should the muslin be?

Just had to get the bus home, rather than walk, because DS1 is feeling poorly. As soon as I stop walking DS2 starts to scream, so he screamed for the whole 2 mins we were on the bus. One woman moved away, another stuck her fingers in her ears! I didn't know whether to cry or hit her. I try to avoid it, but I have to leave the house sometimes and I could do without the constant snarky comments about DS2 screaming, he's always doing it!!

Oh Seymore how rude! I'd like to say I'd have hit her but to be honest I would probably have cried!

Wow cookies exciting moving house, hope all is well.

Well ds had a quick feed at 8. Woke at 10:30 (which made me think we were in for a bad night) and now has just woken again at 2:30! Let's hope he goes a few more hours after this!

nutella my whole family have called willies 'handy picnic gadgets' ever since I can remember; I'm sure we'll continue the tradition!

So sorry you've has rubbish hvs pidj, our official one hasn't been asked much as I've got a friend who's just finished training as one so am using her instead..

Def second sling for a full day in London, esp with the odd tea -/and cake-- break. Oz has been legs outfroggy since birth which seems to suit him. pidj* as head sling honcho, when do they want to start facing out? No obvious signs yet..

cookies good luck with the house! Always 'fun' buying/selling..

at broken bum!

I'm so done with waking up every 2.5-3hrs every night. I love bf but there are times when this is seriously making me consider stopping just to get a break once in a while. I know in reality that won't happen as even if dh did the odd night bottle it'd take that bloody long for him to actually get bottle to mouth so I'd be wide awake anyway. But then I wonder if she might go longer between feeds? I don't know, in the morning I'll prob think differently again but I feel so tired and am full of this shitty cold/sore throat which I'm struggling to shift, prob because of lack of sleep

nutella

Seymour I had similar reactions once on a train when dd2 was younger. Yes she was loud and it was unpleasant but it was clear I was trying everything to get her to stop yet some people openly showed their annoyance. Helpful buggers.

T slept most of the day after her jabs and was a bit sad and cry-y when awake but touch wood ok. She went to bed easily (easier than normal) and now ish is her usual feed time so fx she's not feeling too bad. Am planning on lots of sling time tom round ikea if she's ok.
utopian I don't think forward facing is ever recommended by the baby wearing community because of having legs in a sitting rather than dangling position. The moby has a hip tie. Before I knew about this dd1+2 both really liked forward facing from about 4 months when they had really good head control.

Chloe . Hope you get longer stretches soon.

Ds2 is really unhappy after a feed tonight and refusing the funny doesn't help :(

Oh chloe I hope you get more sleep soon.

spotty it's good to see DS letting you sleep for once.

seymore it's easier said than done but ignore everyone else. It ends I promise just hang on in there.

I found Tesco ones good, had a choice of those or some smaller ones from when i was little! As long as you get good padding and you're both comfortable that's all that's important :)

Utopian, they can face out when they're on your back. How would you like to be strapped to the front of a train and hurtled through the world?!

Fair point! Having said that, if strapped to a train I'd far rather see what my fate was than be hurtled backwards... At what age would they want to go on your back? I'm happy with him on the front facing me as long as he is, just curious really..

Thanks for the hugs and reassurance. Sorry to moan, I'm really looking forward to the point when I can go out without worrying about when and where he'll start to scream!

chloe it's so hard isn't it, can you express and get DH to give a really big bottle of ebm? DS did a very long sleep after 150mls of breastmilk.

spotty that's a good stretch! I hope you're sleeping right now!

Morning all, bit of a sleep regression this week. J's taken to waking at 9, 11:30, 2:30 and up at 5am. Today he's done 11:30-4/30 so hoping its getting better. You know its been a bad couple of days when 4:30am is a lie in. Take heart in knowing that even us formula feeders are still up Chloe hopefully you get more sleep soon.

Sorry to hear so many are having a bad time, even my pram-loving baby screamed for an hour in his on Monday, no rhyme or reason for it. Hopefully just a good old phase.

DP has gone to a shift pattern and was in early today, had an hours map and woke up feeling like death warned up! That'll teach me!

I still have a very unhappy baby :( I think he needs a poo. He never screams at night, normally just cries a little if I take him off the boob too early but tonight he's been really giving it some. Feel really :( when there's nothing I can do to help!

Chloe I really do feel your pain, ds sometimes wakes after 90 minutes! It's been 2.5 hours since he last woke and we're up again I try to remind myself that the frequent night wakings are a survival tactic and it'll all seem a distance memory in a years time. It's always so much worse in the middle of the night though. Agree with giving some expressed milk, or even a bottle if formula? I find I only have to get dp to do it once and I feel so much better!

Bac carries whenever you're uconfident, with a woven. 4-6 months with a SSC?? I'm hanging on till he's too big for my front pfb

seymore sorry to hear about the rude people on the bus. it's not as if you could have done anything about it!

We are quite jet lagged but getting there. I had to go to bed at 8 last night as I hit a wall and was so tired I could barely talk. Z did better last night - one night feed that he was wide awake for and wanting to play, but then he went back to bed just like in England once I turned the light off. I guess for little babies it's easier than for older children as babies sleep so much during the day anyway. Today he's slept less and been active more and we took him out to the shopping centre. He's so sweet, he's been trying really hard to stay awake because he's excited at all the new things and people, whilst his eyelids are drooping, and then he gets upset and needs help to get to sleep.

Flights were fine although its a good thing we only tried to take 3 Aptamil cartons through heathrow as we had to open and taste at least half of them (they let us open just 1 rather than 2). I'd pre ordered cartons from boots post-security though so we had them for the flight. He slept through a lot of it and only cried a couple of times when he was hungry. The airline staff (Singapore airlines) were absolutely fantastic - so helpful and proactive. Other people on the plane were fine too (probably because he was good). Apart from one woman behind us who told (not asked) me to turn off my light because her (oldish teenage) daughter was trying to sleep and got annoyed with me when I explained that I was leaving it on just for a few minutes so that my husband could come back from the bathroom safely with the baby (it really was pitch dark in the plane at that point). I didnt think asking others to turn off their lights was a thing on planes; I thought you just accepted that people could have their reading lights on once the main lights were off, as that's what the reading lights are for!.

Oh seymore re the aptamil i looked on the website too (after clicking through that warning about how I had to agree that breast milk was best or whatever it says) and y I saw it was only sachets. How annoying! But, the Aptamil here is I think a bit different in formulation (it's Aptamil Gold, which we don't have at home) and he's not mad keen on it. It's a struggle to get him to take 80-100 mls in a feed; this morning he wouldn't take any more from the bottle but was still seeming hungry so i put him on the breast and he really drank a lot. So we looked to see what WAS available in cartons and bought a couple of S-26 and NAN to try, and I gave him the first s-26 feed a little while ago and he drank it all down and now seems very happy. So I'll give him that for today and see how he goes and if he likes it, I'll get that powder while I'm here. He still gets breast milk so it's not a complete switch from one food to another.

Cheeky bitch second I am pretty sure your prerogative if you choose to have the reading light on-think the only 'rules' are to be reasonably quiet on night flights.

Dd has a horrendous cough and cold, I feel so sorry for her - I have it too but sounds so much worse coming out of a littly

I'm gonna ask dh to give dd a bottle in the middle of Friday night. We had a big discussion about past Fridays incident so I guess as well as me hopefully getting a bit of sleep it's kinda a test too. I still plan to go on the hen do and have faith but still feeling apprehensive

Seymore and seconds, how rude of the people you met. It seems some people are forgetting manners alot.

Chloe hope your feeling better now, i take comfort in the fact that i can lie down to BF. Thats why i'm questioning FF i'm too lazy to get up make a bottle, come back to bed and sit up to feed the bottle then wind.

I was looking slings up last night as i hadn't really heard of them or seen them used. And when i'm carrying H she loves having her back to me and facing the world, but i don't think i'll get one now if their not allowed in that position in the sling.

We had a bad night here, bed at 10 then up 1, 3, 5 and 6:30. Sleeping now since 7 though! He's been in a funny mood all week, someone suggested it could still be his jabs? They were over a week ago now. I'd been thinking growth spurt, as he's grumpy when awake, and feeding/sleeping in the breast for hours at a time. Also poor sleep at night all week. Hope it gets better soon whatever the cause.

T luckily hasn't really cried on public transport, but I'm alway worried he will. Started up a little yesterday so I got him out his pram for a while. I admit I used to get annoyed at crying babies on busses/planes. I think it's easy to forget the parents aren't enjoying it either. I'm obviously more understanding now.

As for slings, we have the moby but T doesn't like facing inwards. When he's bored or grumpy at home through the day he'll only settle if carried facing outward. He'll regularly fall asleep forward facing too, so I don't think he's getting overstimulated. So I looked up a forward facing moby hold and he seems to enjoy that more. I mentioned forward facing carry to the health visitor too, and she said some babies are just nosey. There's no one size fits all when it comes to babies..

I've seen my health visitor about 10 times in 9 weeks. She seems to just come over for a chat... However she did mention this week next normal contact would be at 16w (I think).