November 2012 - Don't forget the tummy time

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stunt that was a beautiful message and made me feel so much better about myself. Thank you

BPLP and kirrinlet's be Velcro together eh?

If I won the lottery I'd sell this house & move back to north London which I miss so much. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

evil everyone is very impressed that I use the moby all the time. It's because I can't work out the pram!

det I know just how you feel about your baby. Except for mine, obviously

GT darling, POAS to reassure yourself. Hand holding here if required

glenda I'm so sorry. Please don't apologise. You have every reason to feel betrayed and need to talk about it.

:( glenda you definitely need to sit down with him tomorrow and spell things out. You may feel calmer in the morning - things always seem so much worse overnight.

I was coming to post that I am totally over it all, but at least N has let me sleep for an hour so far tonight, which is better than some. It's just so frustrating when she is fast asleep on the bed next to me but when I transfer her to the basket she immediately starts thrashing her arms and legs about and wakes up - and I don't know what she wants. Swaddling doesn't work for her, she just fights it, but the startle reflex and face twitting seem to be getting worse not better.

I have a test on Wednesday as part of my job interview and I'm just realizing I'm being an idiot even trying to do this - I can barely remember my own name at the moment, no way can I get this job - who am I kidding.

Hope you get some sleep VQ

Twitting = twatting. My iPad is obviously very polite!

glenda hugs. Men are an altogether different species sometimes. You defiitely need to let him know how unacceptable his behaviour is.

I'm teetering on the brink with DH a lot of the tine. I find myself thinking I just need to tolerate his existence until the kids are school age (he is a part time SAHD and I'd be fucked for childcare without him. Am assuming its just a phase.

Went to work for a KIT day which was lovely. I'm not in a hurry to get bcak, but when May comes I'll be perfectly happy. However, MIL let DS sleep for 4 hours today, and he didnt eat much, so am attributing this night time feed to that, plus 12 week growth spurt. We havent been up at night for several weeks, and he just drained both boobs plus 3oz formula. And is wide awake. Bloody good job he's cute.

and calming milky for the non sleepers. Glenda, I'd be going ballistic at him tomorrow if i were you. Complete twattishness. Can you make it be him that has to go, he's the one causing the problem!

Katie, i use a sling all the time too. Far easier than lugging the buggy up and down the stairs, especially if he's asleep!

Kirrin, I've got an informal one on Thursday but I'm hopelessly underqualified (lack of pgce but job is in my specialism) so not holding out much hope really. Shame because it would solve a lot of problems - dp's the sole earner atm and i doubt he'll be able to work this year, if ever.

VQ I hope you are asleep!

Glenda talk to him in the morning. What utter stupidity on his part. Grrr and big hugs to you. Now dottie be a good girl. My DPis like VQs and wants to be told I need help. Very frustrating.

Kirrin... I don't know but have you tried a cot? My L was getting worse and not sleep far better as he had room and doesn't spend the night twating himself or the Moses!

Oh dear, for you Glenda.

DS is starting to fight his way out of his swaddle which means he can't sleep and reflux is waking him up too, especially in the afternoons. I've started letting him sleep in his bouncer as he needs to be quite upright or he wakes screaming and vomiting. Poor wee thing.

Kirrin - try swaddling? Only thing that worked for both DD and now DS.

DD has now dropped her sodding nap and it is EXHAUSTING not getting a nap in the afternoons. What scares me though is sleep regression...

Did anyone else get sleep regression with their first DC but not with second? DD went from sleeping around 6 - 8 hours a night and then bam hit 16 weeks and woke every 40 minutes for two months. I was on my knees by the end of it when I started solidly co sleeping so didn't really notice how much she was awake. I'm really bricking it that DS will do the same thing.

Hugs Everyone. X night night

oh my not heard of sleep regression until.now sounds v scary.
Glenda big hug from me too - thought my dh would be the best ever at this from the early days but he too needs to be told when I need help - he seems to offer only when I really don't... the worst is if I ask him to hold her while I do something shower get some food etc ... he says he needs to do something quickly and is gone for ages without any update whilst dd is working herself up and I think if I had quickly popped to the loo etc when I asked him to entertain her or whatever I would be back by now! I don't think he is doing it deliberately just think he isn't thinking.
I also think that he is v tired and doesn't quite realise how tired I am ... and feels like he can't help sometimes me being prime caregiver and the mummy and all that! I was hating him last night but a good chat this eve with dd in happy mood means we can both place ourselves in each others shoes.
is there other stuff besides the cry deafness? hope your dotty is dozing away!

kirrin you may suprise yourself. I secured a promotion with full on morning sickness and a friend of mine did at three days overdue. Look upon it as having a grand excuse if you fuck up.

jing I did not have sleep regression with either of them. I am relying on J to balance this.

pikz I think I nodded off about 4.30 and J just woke at 6.

J has done really well. Slept from 11.30 I think it was. He woke at 2 because his sister was coughing so loudly and needed a boob for comfort. He has just fed for 10 mins and seems to be asleep again. I think he has earned his tenner.

I have slept for 1.5 hours. DH has had a bad night and has been shaking with feeling so cold. Now he knows how I felt. I have tried to be sympathetic but it is not easy. I think he will be off today. I think both girls will be off today. I bet he is in bed all day. Actually I would prefer that. J is snotty. I pray it stays at that.

I haven't tried the cot yet, no pikz I might try that tonight then and see if it makes a difference, thanks. She is starting to look humongous in the basket!

VQ I hope I surprised myself, I could really do with this job, even if it does mean finishing mat leave considerably earlier than planned.

Good luck with your interview pidjin Its really nerve wracking isn't it?

DD1 never had a sleep regression so I hope N doesn't either. Though to be fair DD1 was still waking a lot at 13 4 months anyway, so she didn't need to regress!

Not caught up but just want to apologise for my little rant at DP's idiot comments last night. All of M's cluster feeding was obviously for something as she slept 11 - 6! I'd call that sleeping through? he slept in the spare room

Good luck with interviews. I'm in the middle of applying for a job. Doubt I'll get it but it's PT working mainly from home and very nicely paid. I have the quals but patchy exact experience.

The thought of being pregnant again ever so soon is terrifying!! POAS those who are unsure. I was indenial for 8 weeks with M before I did

My teeth hurt

Glenda Ihope you feel better this morning. We're all here when you need to have a moan.

I had a bad night with DD1. She's having nightmares and kicking out at me. If she wakes she's hysterical. I don't know how LO sleeps through it all. And I don't know what to do to help DD1 apart from be there. Damn co-sleeping. I would love to be able to sleep in a more comfortable position other than on my side, right on the edgeof the bed, with one arm shielding my face in case my toddler headbutts it.

The last few nights have been terrible for here. DH and her left 45 minutes. Figured LO would wake up so not gone back to bed. She's still bloody asleep.

Hugs glenda - hope you are feeling better about things this morning and dottie eventually slept!

PR not good. Perhaps time for a big girl bed? Toddlers are particularly good at headbutting.

kirrin cot sounds good but be prepared for three not so good nights. And a bit of crying. Baby and you.

DD1s fever has finally broken. And what does she do? Vomits. She caught it in a bowl though. DH is insisting on going into work. Will be difficult as he is struggling to get to the bathroom. I am tired. As usual.

We all have the dentist this afternoon. If we cancel we have to wait 6 months. I missed the last appt as I broke my leg, and with the tooth incident on saturday DD1 needs to go. Great. Thoughts? I am tempted to register with a different dentist. Thankfully we are blessed with them here.

She has a big girl bed. If we even suggest she sleeps in it she gets upset. Even if I say I will sleep there with her. Controlled crying has never worked with her. It's ever since we moved house, she used to sleep in her own room in the old house. She would sleep so much better on her own,I'm sure of it (who doesn't).

I need to start talking her into it nice and gently, but it's like she switches off as soon as I mention it.

The original November 2012 thread is here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1412456-Nov-12-babies, Detective got a faint BFP on 24 Feb, GT on 26 Feb, I got mine on 27 Feb, Horsey and VQ signed up on 29 Feb. Then at the beginning of March Evil, Pasties (where is Pasties anyway?), PR and Donna* all signed up. We've been chatting away for a long time ladies!

Sorry to hear your DH is being an arse Glenda. I take it that it's a case of the straw that broke the camel's back and you've finally had enough? I hope today goes well for you .

Wow that's a blast from the past. I didn't really keep up very well with the antenatal threads. That pregnancy went so fast except for those two weeks between early scans when I was expecting to mc.

Thanks, Kirrin, you too. Mine is the perfect start to a proper career for me, but a massive readjustment of expectation - i was expecting to stay home until R + any future sibling(s) went to school. Not sure how i feel about it really, i was working in childcare and SN so we assumed I'd be the sahp!

Vq your dentist sounds a bit shit if they make you wait 6 months. Broken legs and childhood illness can't be helped! Take your custom elsewhere is the vom a bug or has she just swallowed a load of snot?

glenda hope yo are ok this morning. Like vq says men are very different to us, they don't really read situations well and everything is taken at face value. We tend to look behind things which has it's pros and cons.

I said ages ago I think that the first months of having a baby are a bit like a drunken night out. We are always tired, sensitive and emotional. You can obviously tell me to fuck off in a detective stylee, but is not the best time to be making massive decisions. You are doing brilliantly doing it mainly on your own, and I know it's not just the physical doing but all the emotional stuff that mums do to.

hang in there.

I didn't find you all till April!!! Obviously that was before the days of most active!

I think that's unreasonable of your dentist VQ. I know ours says if you miss appointments w/out notice etc they may remove you, but I'm sure if you canceled with 24hrs notice for valid reasons, you'd just have to rearrange.

Just realised we put A in his cot this wk. Perhaps that's why he started waking again? We're working back up to 7hrs - 4.75 night before, 5.5 last night. A is in his cot and asleep from before 9pm until (usually) at least 7, so can't complain about the feeds if he goes straight back. Today was the exception that proves the rule as he woke up at 6.30 full of snot.

PR that sounds horrible. Could you transfer when she's asleep or is that worse? What about her choosing some new bedding?

Morning ladies - thank you for your hand holding - its a shame I found you all so late, was on maternity leave and awaiting D's arrival on another thread when stunt nun pointed me in this direction - thanks for being so supportive you guys rock!!!

Came upstairs with Dottie asleep and could hear him snoring, but as I walked in he pinged awake fucking amazing how he can sleep so slight sometimes and others doesn't hear her going supersonic asked if we were ok so I grunted. Luckily Dottie went to sleep and I got in bed at 2.30.

He's redeemed himself a teeny weeny minute bit by getting dd1 up dressed and out to breakfast club and letting me and Dottie sleep in but we sign contracts with the childminder so am gonna jump in the shower and get a brew.

I love him to bits but he can be so friggin thick sometimes and not read the situation properly - I think it is probably the same as your dp vq and needs to be asked for help but what's the point of that?? If I need to ask he doesn't actively want to help and it just makes me feel like a failure - I want someone to read the signs and know when she's pushing my limits and to swoop in and take her off my hands before it gets to the point where I am swearing at her to go the fuck to sleep - he'd be a hero then and my sanity would not be teetering on the brink.

I also see it that it was me who so desperately wanted another baby when he would rather have not so therefore it's me who should parent her. He loves her and is pleased she's here but he could do so much more to help me - I think uni is going to be a huge shock for us both!!

Sorry for being all woe is me - I will catch up on thread after brekkie and see if I have any advice though doubt it as I can't get my own shit together lol

I didn't get my bfp until first of march - knew something was up when I burst into tears when a friend at college got an offer for midwifery so went home with a packet of Jaffa cakes and sobbed my way through sex and the city movies did a test when I went to do the school run!!! Wow year has gone soooo quick!!!