November 2012 - By 'eck we can talk

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Pass I only read it today when catching up :)

We tried various liners and she was having none of it. She barely copes in disposables. I noticed this week she gives a sad little hurt cry if she's lying down when she pees. It's a truly heartbroken face she gives me too!

We co sleep and i use a wrap to carry her so she's rarely flat on her back luckily. When she was sleeping in the crib I bunged a blanket under one end to elevate it slightly.

Did I just read you don't need to sterilise? We have a microwave steriliser and our microwave is on its last legs so I'm worried about the pump, bottles etc

I'm not in a vent-y place. Just sad

Dosed up on paracetamol I have been doing some housework. I blogged about dropping LO and have been inundated with emails and tweets from people with their own baby dropping / other head related accidents. Feel much better about my mum capabilities now I realise there are lots of other people as clumsy as myself.

Katie you sound like you're doing really well, it's so hard to express and feed as well (been there, done that). Our LO had reflux and it was miserable. She seems to be growing out of it, slowly, but it is hard work and now she has colicky type issues instead This thread has kept me sane over the past few days, I hope it can do the same for you too.

Don't be sad Katie we are all doing our best for our LOs and it is really hard when there's something wrong that we can't find the solution to. It's very easy though to let that feeling of sadness develop into guilt or a feeling of failure, and that's just not on.

petite I bumped DD's head the other evening on the door frame then face planted her in the bath. It was not a good day....

Vq, I'll add you to a couple of fb groups :)

We're in a mix of easyfits, cheapie pockets and realeasy by hiphip baby during the day with prefold+homemade fleece liner over night. I've got a stack of tiny fitteds to sell, unfortunately mostly low value stuff! Still, it'll be nice to have a few extra quid to spend on more fluff

Katie, we haven't actually moved very far on from the sling-nap stage at 9 1/2 weeks today is day 2 of attempting a nap in the crib!

kissy ours smells really minty and tastes awful. It made me dread giving it to her and she was becoming extremely adept at spitting it out. I now measure each of the meds into a clean bottle and mix with about 10ml of milk. I give her this before feeding which seems to be working well.

katie could your LO have a water infection? Seems odd that she would look sad when she wees. DSs eyes water and go a bit red, then he grins.

I have a very grumpy DS today. I think he has a cold / 12 week growth spurt / is pissed off with my shoving a bottle at him when he wants boob / is a bit constipated / enjoyed lulling me into a false sense of security. Grump, grump, grump. Going to catch up on the thread while trying to persuade him to poo!

Thanks for the support. I'm making myself keep going but I'm on the brink if tears all the time.

When we work out feeding again I'll go back to nap training. I did the whole baby led cycle and it was working a treat: change nappy, feed, play, see a yawn, start winding down till we eventually went to rocking. She was going down pretty quick last week & staying for over an hour. It was amazing. Now, approaching week 12 and its worse than ever because she's feeding so badly.

Also, my nipples flaming hurt from expressing!

Katie, have you seen an expert about the feeding?

Don't be sad Katie it sounds like you are doing an amazing job

Thanks pass i was worried they had given us the wrong stuff. BPLP to be honest the first day I gave LO her meds she was more upset than ever! Yesterday I just gave her the ranitidine and today I've not given anything so far, she seems ok. Feel at a loss with it all really

katie I found the 12 week growth spurt rotten, especially as I did not know there was one. Are you just expressing to boost supply? If so, and in. Growth spurt, you are better getting baby to do it. Make sure you lube the boobs, and I am concerned expressing is hurting you. That is not gonna help you feel less sad.

DS is napping superbly in the day after a few days of no sleep. Going down awake in cot or pram as required. Three yawns and down he goes.

Cheers PP

I think katie is expressing to maintin supply because of of LO's poor feeding at the moment. Am I right katie? That makes the whole cycle so much harder - trying to feed, LO screaming and/or refusing ten having to express. Horrid

kissy what have you been told about meds ad what is your LO on? It can be a bit of a guessing game.

12 weeks has been hell here too!! Last night (overnight) was the best he's been ins week or so. My lovely happy baby is back (apart from tea time!!) he has learnt lots of new tricks though...

Gt I always make 8ozbottles. I'll generally through an oz of two away but I'd rather more be there if he needs it. Plus when he drains a bottle he sucks in loads of air. Which leads nicely to my next point...

I'm crap at burping ATM. Well I feel crap at it. I could really burp him but lately not so. I just can't burp him easily anymore. But I use gripe water now during two or three feeds. I find halfway through easier to give it.

Apologies, I was forgetting the reluctance to feed.

horsey they get less wind at this age apparently. Could it be there is no burp to be had?

Tbh I've not been told a great deal about the meds, but have learnt a lot here! She's on 0.3ml of ranitidine 3 x a day and 1.8ml of domperidone 3x a day before feeds. She weighed 13.5lb when they weighed her to work out the dosage. She's ebf and already poos quite a lot so expect the domperidone will just have the effect YW predicted! She seems to go through periods of not being sick much at all, then we will have days like we did at the weekend where she projectile voms!? I don't think it's linked to dairy. Giving her the meds is just awful, she sounds like she is choking and drowning on it I wish I'd expressed so I could give her a bottle with the meds in now

It feels like he just doesn't want/need to? Id not heard that tbh!! We get lots of trumps!!!

A lot less winding is going on here too. We're 14 weeks tomorrow. Lots less posseting too, but very many farts. I guess their digestive system is starting to settle which is, I guess, why colic seems to slow down around now too. I really found 12 weeks to be a bit of a milestone on lots of issues : sleep, feeding amount, colic, posseting, wind, communication. Maybe what they say about it being the fourth trimester is right. I don't really consider LO to be a newborn anymore - she's suddenly got a personality.

Yes that's exactly right passthecrisps

Other half is trying to make little bean sleep while I try (unsuccessfully) to pump again. Got myself thinking about feeding her but that just ends up with me in tears.

Every HV and midwife has told me the latch is fine. My friend is a BF counsellor but I'm getting desperate. I don't want to bottle feed but we're getting close. Except of course I seem to be failing at expressing too

A 12 week growth spurt I hear?
This may be a long shot. But as LO was two weeks early and is now 14 weeks. Any chance he is having his 12 week spurt late?

Horsey also noticed that LO doesn't wind as easily. And his 6am feed I give him laying down n don't even attempt to burp n he sleeps fine.

I get ur reasons for making up more. However I hate waste. N would rather be inconvenienced by LO draining bottle and then making more rather then having to spill loads.
Det wanted ways to save money. So this seemed like a easy way. I know it's only a few pound extra a week. But every little helps.