November 2012 - By 'eck we can talk

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Not having the best week here! We were very close to signing the contracts on our house move but our buyers have just pulled out. Their reason that the lay out of the house won't work for them with having a baby! I live in a townhouse and the kitchen and living room are upstairs so it isn't a particularly child friendly house which is one of the reasons we are moving. That and the fact out gardens tiny. Why it took them 10 weeks to figure that out I'll never know. We've got 2 viewings lined up this weekend so it's back to me manically sorting the house out. Have accumulated a lot more crap over Christmas which needs a home. Think I'd better become a fly lady as well to keep on too of it once I've done the blitz on the house. Am very much hoping we don't lose the house we were buying. I hate the house buying/selling process. Once we move I won't be moving for years and years!

On the baby front E did a spectacular projectile vom earlier and now appears to have the runs. So that won't lead to positive news on the weight gain front

On the topic of religion, I'm not and DH is even less so. DD1 enjoys going to church with the in laws and if she did decide to become a Christian or any other religion I would support her. Each to their own and all that. The world would be a boring place if we all held the same opinions. Although I do think people's religious beliefs tend to bring about too much violence in this world and I oppose that. I'm in favour of peaceful religion not extremists.

Sorry horsey, missed your post! Tis baby swimming! That sounds reasonable... If car seat is okay, this would make things easier!

What do people who walk do with prams? .

QQ: How long do babies stay sleepy for after the jabs?!

Pa ha ha vq, I like your kind of baby swimming!

Well when I walk, I leave my pram in the hallway outside the changing room. It's a school and only used by the swimming group at that time. I just take no money etc. Or if I do shove it in a locker!!

Tiger - yes. I go to puddleducks. Who are you with?

Re baby swimming, we have a crèche at our leisure centre so if I walk I leave the pram in there. There are family changing rooms with baby changing tables in them. I'm sure I took DD1 when she was 3 months but I don't think I'll take E for a while yet. She seems too tiny to take swimming. I think I'll wait till she bulks out a bit. I'm looking forward to taking her though. I know DD1 will love having E in the pool with her. When I take DD1 to her swimming lessons its at a private pool so E watches (sleeps) from her car seat at the side of the pool.

We are not allowed to take prams into our GP surgery. Even to baby clinic. We have to leave them in the corridor out of sight.

Baby swimming I lock valuables in the locker and take everything else through with me to the pool, and leave it on the seats at the edge of the pool. Pick it up on way out, dress DD1, then dress self, collect valuables and then

early bed for me. Am on max paracetamol and

DD1 lyingnext to me watching LMFAO videos on youtube on iPad anything goes today. LO seems fine. Eaten a little less than usual but no symptoms of concussion.

Am now a FLYbaby. Worth a try....

DS so tired, he's asleep after "night feed" & DD will be soon. Fingers crossed he stays that way... Def dream feeding tonight though!

So, night all. Warm & peaceful ones all round.

Detective just wanted to say... Waddle waddle waddle.. Til the very next day.

Night :)

Well I was going to post earlier but I lost it . So here is the short verison.

P hates to tidy, and calls it hiding things.

I'm a pagan, and P is an catholic. As a pagan it's a tailered to the person, and SOME people have doctrine, most don't. We don't shout, or go out converting people. I have a summer land which I go to when I'm dead, hopefully ill have learn the lession of this life and move on, if I don't then I come back as I am now. I follow the "you get what you put out" for life.

Prams, well mine is covered in mud and some of the parts can't work on account of the mud.

I'd love to take N swimming, but he would scream blue murder.

It's my night off, I've had a bath, and I've done nothing but worry about N.

Evil broomstick.

I have no idea how you lot keep up with this thread. I have no time!

Anyone else's LOs scream blue murder after a bath? One minute she is sitting there quite happy, next thing proper inconsolable screams?! Makes me not want to bath her!

Pass maybe P associates your friend with jabs as you saw her just after she had them?

kissy that was what happened to us earlier - happy as a (little) pig in mud in the bath. Red-faced and screaming for 20 minutes afterwards felt like a lifetime

She only has 1 bath a week

Tiger I'm gonna throw my two pence worth in re feeding.

LO is 14 weeks yesterday n 75% so snap

He is offered 6oz every three hours starting at 6am to 9pm. Drinks About 32 oz in total. If he drinks less I find he wakes at 4am to make up for it

If you want him to sleep longer at night you need to feed him more during day. Keep day feeds bright n chatty so he does not fall asleep. Maybe Offer milk every 3 hours.

However If he continues to gain weight , is happy etc, then I wouldn't worry. Maybe drop into a clinic to check his weight is still on the same line to help ease the worry.

Big, baby evil has one bath per week on account of his screaming.

I swear that P, couldn't make more noise with his foot steps. One day he will wake N and I won't be very happy.

Evil

Yep we have minimal baths on account of the screaming, although tonight we had a slightly more successful attempt.

VQ I like your baby swimming idea. I told my mum I'd like to take L to baby swimming and she said, do you have to get in with the baby? No mum, we just dunk 'em in and leave 'em to it. Anyway given the bath situation I might have to leave it for a while.

Religion: we're both atheist.

Sorry about your week Eliza. Hope E doesn't have a bug. Take care x

9.45 LO asleep. He fought it tonight! Gosh he can scream, but for less than two minutes. It seems like forever though. He is still mid growth spurt me thinks. Sleeping and eating is all he has done today. Poor little bugger never quite recovered from the 6am start. I however have had a fabby day. Bounce has pretty much lasted. Quite excited at the prospect of possibly sleeping a bit tonight.

Wishing you all sweet dreams, and loooooong ones. Waddle waddle waddle.

Evil we will have to arrange a meet up with our slightly grubby LOs once the snow has disappeared. Perhaps they can outscream one another?!

Finally got LO into bed, dh asleep on the sofa, so am off to bed myself - fingers crossed for some decent sleep (although suspect that all the crossing in the world will be futile).

Oh, and kitchen sink is suitably clean shame about the rest of the kitchen

Thanks for your thoughts on the friend screamy habdabs. Weirdly, my instinct said that it was smell. When we went to visit p started screaming the first time when I took her into the bathroom to change her - same thing in that one second happy as larry and her next screaming like she is being slaughtered.

Unfortunately, my friend (who is wonderful) seems to want to make it better by walking away with p so that I can't see her. I just want her back! It's just trying to be helpful but p gets into such a state.

The holding thing might be a possibility. Friend likes to constantly be on the move with p and holds her like tiger in a tree - this is supposed to be good for babies with tummy problems though.

I did ask friend if she was wearing perfume and she said she was. Might be worth trying again without the perfume.

On the bath note - p loves a bath and is starting to cope a bit better post bath but it can be hit and miss. Seems to depend on how tired she is and how quickly I can get everything done.

P is definitely wanting to sit now. After her bath today I held her hands and pulled her up she sat like that for ages including wiggling herself so that she was almost completely holding her own weight. Sadly she then decided that she never needed to lie flat ever again so had a flaky when I had to lie her down to dress her. Evil mummy.

She also had her first proper chat with me today. Proper long term eye contact and turn taking with babbles. She was in DH's arms and was sort of lounging in the crook of his arm looking at me. It was so adorable that I shed a tear.

It is shocking how fast we go through these threads

VQ love your idea of swimming

Religion - were getting LO christened, I'm not a very religious person but its something DP wants to do for DD so we go to church most weeks and if when DDs older she decides she wants to do something different or nothing then we'll support her in whatever she chooses. I want to be very cautious though between supporting and guiding her but not trying to force something on her that she doesn't want as that's what family members tried to do to me and now has the opposite effect

glenda sorry your DP is stressing you out

Enjoy your date night sophia

detective I've had the same thoughts ands Qs as you about swimming, there's a few places to choose from soi need to phone them and go where ever has the best storage for cars seat ect. Do babies have to have 2 layers on to go swimming or something?

Got my new pump today and I'm impressed, first time I used it i got 2oz in 15min! I could pump with my manual for 30min and not always get that

DD is fighting bedtime. Not fun. Hope everyone has good nights sleep tonight

Big I have NO snow. There was a very small covering, but it's just mainly ice. Just pick a day and I can work around it.

Evil

How have you managed that!? We have a good few inches here (realise this is nothing compared to those oop north) but live just enough out into the sticks for it to be a nightmare to get anywhere. Hopefully it will all be thawed soon though and hopefully before I go mad with cabin fever

pass aww! How lovely. Do you do tiger in tree with wee P? If not, there is your answer. If you do perhaps it is because it is not you or daddy holding her like that.

I said 'eyeballs' today when J woke up. Quite took me by suprise, but eyeballs they were.

Got any grapes?

Gave B a bottle of expressed milk tonight, what a palaver! She wouldn't take the tommy tippee so had to pour it into the NUK bottle. She then took an hour to drink 4.5 oz (6oz was offered), wasn't happy after that so offered the breast and she fed for a few minutes at the breast too. It then took another hour to get her to sleep. I'm meant to be going out on Friday so this was a dry run, it's never going to work, DH will also have dd1 to put to bed as well.

Am Posting just before I wake LO for a feed. Trying to remember what I was going to reply to

Religion: atheist

garden ds has eyes (obviously) and they were really steely grey but look more blue now. His dads eyes change colour, blue/green and grey when he's Ill which he hates cos he couldn't ever fake being ill!

Food thetiger I think asked? DS was 7lb 41/2 born, is 11 weeks and was 13lb 6 last week. He started on 50th and is now up to 75th line thingy. He has about 35-40oz a day. Offered 8 at every feed and drinks at least 6 all day, usually 7 or 8 but this last feed he's either missed totally or taken only 3-4oz for about a week now, resulting in him having about 32-34oz a day. The up to 40 was for about a week or two, thought it was a growth spurt but then thought he was drinking that amount for too long for it to be a growth spurt. He is on anti reflux milk too and I was told he would want less! I'd never keep up with normal milk if that's the case!!

Will try n remember if there's anything else before bed time! Hope you all have nice sleeps!