November 2012 - By 'eck we can talk

[StuntNun]

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Oh dear PR sorry to hear!

clarella very true about religion and faith. What would your smutty name change be?

DS2's head went like that PR from sleeping on his side all the time. I'm waiting for him to go bald to see whether it persisted. Paracetamol doesn't seem like much for that level of pain. Can you take Ibuprofen as well?

kirrin, I'm so sorry that your mum has died.

I hadn't really linked the life changing event of having children with my fear getting worse but that would make sense. For me maybe it is the combination of the life changing event plus the lack of any spiritual certainty.

candy, the way you have described your religious philosophy is exactly how I feel about it!

stuntnun, I like your thinking about church, I'll stop feeling like a hypocrite for considering going when I don't believe in it!

I don't know much about humanists but I think they have ceremonies to celebrate the beauty of life itself and its important events. They just don't involve god in their celebrations. If that is what they are about, I kind of like the idea of it.

Oh petite, you poor thing.

Paracetamol can be a great painkiller once you get on top of the pain and then take it regularly. Not so great for getting on top of it on the first place. Ibroprofen, like stuntnun said, may help? Or a hot water bottle? Good luck for getting through the day.

Yay to a good night sleep valium! DS2 has also slept much better tonight - not amazingly, but a huge improvement on the last week. As well as a proper feed at 2.30, he has had 2 feeds (one just now) where he woke up and fed for literally 2 minutes then went back to sleep. Weird.

Glad things are improving rowing I think PR has an allergy to Brufen.

PR could you get up-the-bum paracetamol? Much more effective. Hope you soon feel better.

Afraid the last time I took an anti inflammatory, just after DD1's birth my stomach haemorraged and I almost died (almost, you see I am lucky ) so I am off anti inflammatories for life.

Which brings me nicely onto the subject of death. I was about as close as you can get without actually dying. It really is nothing to be frightened of - I remember fighting for a moment, and panicking, and then suddenly relaxing and allowing it to happen. A few bits of images went through my mind, which I can still remember very vividly indeed. I am more frightened now of it than when it was staring me in the face. But only because I don't want to leave my children or just daughter as it was then, and husband. That idea, ad how close it got, has haunted me ever since, day in and day out. But the actual dying? Nothing easier.

Waking up on life support tied down to the bed and massive tubes down my throat breathing for me? Far far far scarier.

VQ i can't get to the pharmacy unfortunately. DH is hoping to not be too late tonight so maybe he will be able to go and get me some if it is still open.

Well blow me down with a feather. I can't sleep because I'm so excited! DP woke up when Oscar wanted a feed I woke 2 minutes before him though!! without me kicking him or prodding him!! He just woke, sat up, then got a bottle. Bloody hell. Talk about swapping the baby, someone swapped my DP!!

We did 9.30-6 last night. The previous nights are forgiven.

I stayed awake through DP feeding and taught him the art of the successful basket transfer so now I'm awake while everyone else is asleep. Including DS1 who should be up right about now...!

Wow Detective your DP is making progress :)

Waddle waddle waddle

Jeez PR surely you are due some good luck now?? That sounds bloody terrifying. You're a brave woman! I'd be a quivvering wreck for sure!!

YOU FUCKER!!!!

Off to poke DP and do same .

Poke in the sense of in the arm. Nothing smutty . I know how some people's minds work!!

Wow - it seems a few of us had a decent night last night :)

petite not so good for you :( any chance of DH staying home today?

Thanks rowing

Well, N has drifted back off. I'm tempted to do the same but I might as well get up, I suppose.

I don't know. Maybe I am lucky. I broke my back without any long term damage. I miscarried but went on to have a really healthy girl. I survived the stomach issue beyond all hope, even the doctors didn't think I'd pull through after the stomach surgery. At my early scan with LO there was no heartbeat and I was told to prepare myself for the worst, but then two weeks later there was one, and here she is. And then yesterday I dropped her on her head and she is gigglîg as if it never happened. So maybe I am lucky. Or cursed. Or lucky. I don't know.

No kirrin I'm afraid he has gone to work. He says he may be able to get home early though. Sorry about your mum x

Cursed and lucky in equal measures?!

Dunno. I do long for a boring, healthy life where nothing much happens though.

PR clearly the good Lord has a purpose for your life

Morning all.

What I love about you lot is that we can go from willy talk to religion in less than 12 hours!

I suspect pr after all that that perhaps you are being looked after, just not by church ladies! I also have God in my quiche. I have had none of my DCs Christened, they must make up there own minds and come to it by themselves. I could not have got through the last years, mums death (with you on that kirrin nothing can prepare you )and my divorce without my church community. I will miss it when I move to NI as I don't suspect it will be quite the same.

detective your DP is advanced for 8 weeks, I hope you have marked down this milestone!!!

oh that's awful pr - could dh stay today? bruised cocyxs are horrid.

kirrin I missed your post about your mum - so sorry.

my mn name is crap - can't do anything with it! I do have another up my sleeve which is my favourite oil paint colour but then I'd confuse people.

grr - the bottle of ebm I blearily saw dh give was formula! he said he did it cos he thought lo needed it now and ebm was too cold! I don't want ti go down that route - at least not yet - and .hr knows it! and anyway I think it sounds like lo needed winding not feeding as he fell asleep in seconds and had hardly any! if I can bank some sleep today am seriously considering doing all the feeds (.bf) all night to see if we get a better night cos I'm suspicious now of dhs winding efficacy (or aibu) (probably)

I have swished an swiped
Emptied the wishdosher
Made the bed
Rebooted the laundry
Got dressed
Make up
(No hair as I am going to the hairdressers so that would be silly)

Not necessarily in that order.

Am I Fly?

what you say about near death pr I found strangely comforting - about it being easy. you are one tough cookie

Do you have a shiny sink? If the sink's not shiny you ain't Fly.

have you given lo away Sophia

George just giggled in his sleep was lovely

No. Sleep. Here.

Poor chap was hysterical. Eventually decided it must be pain related and gave him some Calpol. At 4am. He then fed and went off to sleep. He woke at 7 and sounds full if cold so I wonder if he's got what I've had/got. Any matchsticks needed today.

Erm church debate - I don't go often. I've never been to my local church but we did go Sunday and I went to a group last Tuesday. As always, everyone very friendly and welcoming. Ds is being christened there next month and I'm impressed with how set up for kids they are. To be honest, I don't think you need to go to church every Sunday. I don't think you need to go at all. I think you just need to treat people as you want to be treated. Ken follet has written two superb novels (which were then made into tv shows!) and if you ever fancy reading about religion a few hundred years ago via a story book then I really recommend pillars of the earth and the work without end. They are mammouth books but brilliant ones!! If not then read fingersmith. Nothing to do with religion but a surprisingly good book :)

Right busy day ahead. Need to book our holiday for Easter!