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StuntNun · 21/01/2013 12:47

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kirrinIsland · 23/01/2013 00:32

Scary stuff pr Hope you are both ok xx

I was supposed to have another hv appointment, according to what was said last time, but I haven't heard anything about it since and I'm not going to chase it.

Good night everyone. Hope I don't see you till morning - and I mean that in the nicest possible way!!

TheDetective · 23/01/2013 00:39

Can I just ask before I go to sleep!! does anyone enjoy sex more since having their babies?! Blush

It sounds wrong but I feel better down below after a shag, and everything has been stretched!

ComradeJing · 23/01/2013 00:40

Hi all :)

VQ I know your religion post wasn't aimed at me at all but responding anyway. DH is religious and as we've just moved into a new area he's persuaded me to join him at church on Sundays. Feeling very conflicted about it but at least it's getting me out the house and I'm actually meeting people. Dd has found a little friend too which is brilliant.

General wave to everyone. Almost lunchtime here and the weather has finally cooled down.

TheDetective · 23/01/2013 00:41

Damn posted before I was finished! I'm quite numb down there and I think that's why it's ummmm, more pleasurable?! I'm not sure. Strange...! It's that nice feeling you get when you scratch a scar Blush.

ComradeJing · 23/01/2013 00:42

Detective I'd rather saw my own arm off than have sex right now. Tried once so far and it was hell. Thinking about having a bath in lube first trying again tonight but I'm really anxious about it.

TheDetective · 23/01/2013 00:42

I need a fanny stretcher Grin

TheDetective · 23/01/2013 00:44

I just don't get how I can't do normal day to day stuff without aching and pains. But I can have a shag and feel better after it. Go figure... Hmm. It wasn't comfortable for many months after DS1 and technically he was a sunroofer. Although I had an epis too so I suppose that didn't help. My body is confusing me!!

ComradeJing · 23/01/2013 00:48

Fanny stretcher :o

It was the same- as in crap sex- with dd until I finished bfing.

ValiumQueen · 23/01/2013 02:43

PR thinking of Jonah actually... The people who have hurt me most have professed to have a faith, and I tried to deny mine for 7 long years. It still works for me though.

comrade I hope you meet some kind folk.

detective a bum stretcher is what you need! Seriously, like with your fanny it may just help!

J slept exactly 3 hours. About to try to settle.I am having such cool dreams since I put him in his own room.

rowingdowntheriver · 23/01/2013 03:13

pr, that sounds terrifying, so glad you are both relatively unharmed. I'm pretty sure you have used up your last dose of bad luck and life will be plain sailing now for ages.

Long witter re church...

I was brought up going to church / Sunday school until I was about 10 as my dad was really involved in our local church. We then moved south and never went again and at some point my dad became a humanist and atheist.

I don't know if it is related, and I am sure it is a pretty common / natural fear, but I have a huge fear of death. It has been worse after the birth of each DS (fear of their death, my death, my parents death, DH's death) that is with me a lot of the time and seems to taint a lot of positive things that happen in life. Eg, if my mum and DS1 have a lovely day together some part of me is thinking that she will die and then they won't have anymore days like that and I'll really really miss her. The fear faded a while after DS1's birth and is fading after DS2 but I'm still waiting for it to go back to a more normal level after DS2.

I googled what causes this fear and very often it is linked to a conflict / changing spiritual belief. I certainly have that - want to believe in something but can't believe in the church, then worry about going to hell for not believing.Confused

Have considered joining the church locally as it is a big social thing for my friends in my street (as it helps get your kids into the better local schools) but feel hypocritical about going. Really don't know.

Right, having bored you all to sleep, I'm going to attempt the cot trf!

ChunkyChicken · 23/01/2013 04:15

Last night, poonami so not sure if he genuinely needed a feed, tonight, 7hrs stretch as no dream feed. The 9hrs must have been a fluke. Dream feed for def tomorrow!!

PR Shock glad you're ok-ish.

Pikz · 23/01/2013 04:29

Ooohhh LO did down at 8pm, 11.30 and 4am!! Now let's hope he sleeps til 8.

GTbaby · 23/01/2013 04:31

Naughty baby doesn't understand I need sleep.

StuntNun · 23/01/2013 04:57

It isn't hypocritical to go to church if you aren't sure what you believe in Rowing. You can go to church to learn more about faith. It doesn't have to happen all at once like a bolt out of the blue, you can't easily nurture the seed of faith within you without being part of a church fellowship. It's normal for believers to have a crisis of faith in response to life changing events but that doesn't mean they stop going to church.

I don't understand the humanist movement at all. My friend had a humanist wedding and it seems to be a religion-substitute for atheists. Maybe I missed the point but I'm not certain why atheists need a social group of this type. I'm an atheist therefore I have not had my children christened or baptised. I don't see why I should substitute a humanist naming ceremony. To me that is having your cake and eating it, you don't want to participate in religion but you still want the social trappings associated with it.

Sorry about the early morning religious debate. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is more my thing. It debunks creationism and explains global warming.

DH gave J a bottle for a dream feed at 10:30 last night and we're only on the second feed of the night with a good chance of him going until morning. Maybe that's something we should do more often as I felt like I was completely out of milk last night after an hour-long feed earlier in the evening.

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kirrinIsland · 23/01/2013 05:11

Up for the first feed of the night. Not bad going! But I'm doing a BF rather than a bottle, so we'll see how long it takes for her to re-settle. Might be up a while!.

rowing I also have that fear, although not about my own death. I find myself thinking too much of something happening to the DC in particular. I know what you mean about it tainting positive experiences, sometimes it can be a bit all-consuming, and for me it has got worse since my mum died, as that is my first experience of real grief and it's awful :(
I had assumed it was related to becoming a parent so it's interesting to see it can also be to do with a change in beliefs.

I thought N had properly gone to sleep while I was writing that, but she's just stirred so back to feeding for me! I have a feeling I'm going to wish I'd just given a bottle.....

CandyPop · 23/01/2013 05:31

Whoop whoop just had 5hrs and 40 mins stretch in betweeb feeds! I think this is our first technical sleeping through the night!

Hmm we like our early morning debates! I'm an atheist but like rowing also have a fear of going to hell for not believing?!?! It doesn't really make sense does it as nob believing means not believing in such thing as hell! My thoughts are if I lived my life as good a person as a can and not hurt anyone, surely if there is such thing as god , when the time comes I still get to go to 'heaven' or any equivalent ?!?! If I get condemned to hell just for not believing although I haven't been a bad person then I think thats petty of 'god' and I wouldn't want to join that gang anyway. def will have a big debate with the big man upstairs on why I should be sent down rather than up ESP if some 'bad people' have been sent up just because they have asked for forgiveness ?!

That's my piece on religion .... Now can I get more sleep?!

CandyPop · 23/01/2013 05:32

Nob believing hehe I meant non believing!

Clarella · 23/01/2013 06:02

catching up ...... on 5 pages of Willy talk!

Clarella · 23/01/2013 06:18

...... which some how swung to religious talk?!

Clarella · 23/01/2013 06:22

hope lo is ok this morning .pr?

cocked up night time by not effectively winding :( he's woken every 2 hours and then the last time whinged for 45 mins till we got the previous 5hours worth of wind up. bugger.

still, eve went better as we did all feeds in bedroom lights low etc - we were going to abandon the ebm bottle but dh snuck it in when he was calm. attempting transfer now, think will have a lie ij an stay in pjs all day....

Clarella · 23/01/2013 06:25

oh I'd love to write all my thoughts about religion!

main on is though there's a big difference between religion and faith. a v Christian pal taught me that.

Clarella · 23/01/2013 06:25

omg 4 posts in row!!! you're all sleeping grrrrr

PetiteRaleuse · 23/01/2013 06:28

LO is fine this morning. I, however, am in agony. Am OK when sat, or when standing, or when lying. It's getting there which is the problem. Don't know how I am going to cope with the children today, I have no-one to help me. You see, if I went to church, I could call the priest and he could rally round some ladies to come and help. Or something.

PetiteRaleuse · 23/01/2013 06:29

Her head is a bit of a funny shape though on one side. i guess like with forceps babies it'll just go back to normal?

ValiumQueen · 23/01/2013 06:38

If I said DS woke at 2 and then at 6 would you believe me? As we get up at 6 that would be one night waking! He took 45 mins to feed and settle. This is after settling at 11 without CC, just self settling. No CC at all last night!

Very interesting views on religion. Particularly like the Nob believer and Flying Spaghetti Monster comments! I too have a fear of death, and dying. I would prefer assention. I also do not want to lose anyone I love. I also know I am not going to hell, which is nice. I know I am going to heaven, but want to postpone it as long as possible!

Off to start my day. Have a good one ladies x