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October 2012: onwards, upwards and rolling over?

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YompingJo · 20/01/2013 22:01

Is this part 5 already? Where did that time go?

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lisbethsopposite · 30/01/2013 21:58

Elpis are your romance batteries recharged? Paris in the spring (almost) - isn't that a song?

MickeyTheShortOne · 30/01/2013 22:07

please Londonmrss. That would be appreciated.

God, I miss smoking.

MickeyTheShortOne · 30/01/2013 22:08

Well I don't. But its time like these I would have had a nice rollie to calm me'self down.

DP is now attempting bedtime routine by himself for the first time.
We shall see how this goes.

MickeyTheShortOne · 30/01/2013 22:09

Although this passionfruit wine is going down very nicely Wink

Elpis · 30/01/2013 22:48

Olivess The St Pancras Grand? Lovely, lovely. Never stayed there but used to take people for work-related afternoon teas because it was close to the office.

Will I ever return to the office? [wallows]

Tube. Get an Oystercard, of course. As londonmrss says, travel outside rush hour. I generally take DS out of his sling and sit him up on my lap so he can grin at people and his reflection. This creates goodwill among at least some fellow passengers. Then I reinsert him at the stop before I'm changing or getting off, to allow myself plenty of time to disembark. I use a small rucksack to keep hands free to grab rails and hold DD's hand. Be careful on down escalators! Go through the wide gates at entrances and exits.

I avoid buses in central London because they're so slow, but the main trick is to make sure you're holding on tight when standing. Do NOT go upstairs, especially if wearing heels. Going down the stairs on a moving bus with a baby is an elf'n'safety nightmare.

Have fun! Wink From King's Cross you can get anywhere in half an hour or so.

Elpis · 30/01/2013 22:52

lisbethsopposite Ahem. Not really. Went to Paris with just the kids - DH working and enjoying some childfree sofa time. He did clean the fridge in our absence.

We were hoping for a night off around Valentine's Day, but in-laws will be in Florida sunning themselves. In any case, DMIL is now 80 and puts on nappies the wrong way round. MUST try to find a babysitter. But I don't trust strangers with my baby.

Elpis · 30/01/2013 22:59

Long drives ... Have tried to avoid them. On a couple of occasions DH has driven to or from a holiday and I've taken DD on the train - once all the way back from Cahors. (We arrived half an hour before him!) I find babies generally feed themselves to sleep on trains. However, it's not the cheapest solution.

Never managed to breastfeed in a moving car! I would advise lining the car seat, as vomiting can occur on winding roads and the smell is just unbearable on a long journey.

Cherrychopsticks · 30/01/2013 23:42

First over-heating in Winter in one of my biggest bugbears, such a waste of energy and completely unnecessary when everyone is in big coats and thermals for outside. Here we get the opposite in Summer too - everywhere is freezing inside! Angry

Mickey, stupid nobber DH! Did you scream? I would have. From the bath.

Have a great time in London Olives! I miss it so much.

We should have DS's Japanese passport by next week, so can finally book flights home for March. I was going to sort out the British one too, but everything was taking too long. He has to leave and enter Japan with the Japanese one anyway, but I haven't changed my passport to my married name yet so we have different surnames. I might have to take his birth cert. our wedding cert. and a letter of "permission" from DH so they don't think I'm kidnapping him!
When booking flights, is it enough just to book for an infant (online), or do I then need to contact the airline to organise the bassinet and stuff?

Angelico · 31/01/2013 00:33

Too tired to read. Bean has been asleep for hours. I am supposed to be in bed. Instead have been doing book faff on computer. Idiot

Night x

Londonmrss · 31/01/2013 04:00

My baby is being a right nobber tonight.

OctoberOctober · 31/01/2013 05:43

elpis we also have a mil who puts on nappies the wrong way round! This has happened on several occasions when she looked after DS1 and has meant coming home from a nice night out to a wet bed and loads of washingConfused

smileyhappymummy · 31/01/2013 05:49

Well, tonight when we put her to bed we got her to self settle in her cot with lots of soothing and singing, which is good. Wondered if perhaps she was waking up more because she was upset at finding herself somewhere different to where she went to sleep.
Apparently not though, up every 90 minutes or so again all night and genuinely seeming to want to feed.
I am so, so tired, where is my baby that used to sleep 4 hours at a time? I could do that. I can't do this.

Londonmrss · 31/01/2013 07:02

Sympathy smiley. Mine woke up every hour from midnight, squeaking and wiggling. Then she awoke at 3 ad thought it was playtime and wouldn't settle til 5. Then she woke at 6 and is now up for the day. She refused every feed I attempted and the last one she refused with screams and tears. She now hasn't fed since 9pm. She fed really really well all day yesterday and so was obviously just not hungry all night. But why did she fucking wake up then? Nobber baby.

lisbethsopposite · 31/01/2013 09:19

Not a good night here either... I loose the count re how many wakes/feeds as we are co-sleeping.
I dropped tea on my arm Tuesday night - OUCH! It blistered and I have a dressing on it now so I think I will leave it alone and not have a shower. Because of my, ahem, lady garden problems, I'm not allowed swim so I assume that includes baths - so unwashed, in a tracksuit and sleep deprived...

On the up-side I think I saw a glance of a waist yesterday. There is definitely a slightly narrow area between my shoulders and hips!!

Elpis you are my hero! I think I am a little frightened of my 2 yr old. I don't know how to keep him entertained. Colouring (3mins), lego (10 mins), he walks away before the end of Gruffalo.
TV - he'd stay put for hours! Bad mummy Blush

MickeyTheShortOne · 31/01/2013 09:50

no cherry i dont scream because i dont want to turn into my mother i have to calm down first and talk to him politely and try not to call him a selfish twat. i figure we wont communicate if im shouting at him, so i try and calm down first. doesn't always work, but there you go

CookieMonster88 · 31/01/2013 09:55

Thank you everyone on your tips for the journey, I think we are going to leave when DD wakes up for her first nightfeed (so about 3am) and get as far as we can while she sleeps, then stop every couple if hours for a good half hour for the rest of the journey. Ill sit in the back for entertainment and will have ebm ready to go.

DH's evening in charge last night didn't go so well, he looks very stressed when I got home. Does anyone else find that their DP still thinks that what worked to settle the wee ones when they were a few weeks old should still work now?? It's so frustrating to watch!

Lisbeth - OUCH!

At least some of you have DMIL and DMs that will change nappies! Mine have done it once between them!

Olives, good luck in London, were heading there in March so share anything you learn Smile

YompingJo · 31/01/2013 10:44

Quick post and run - in need of reassurance and "it will pass" type mantras!

DD, who has generally fed to sleep happily at night, has suddenly started to resist sleep after night time feeds - when laid back down in her cot she starts crying them screaming until she is picked up again. This has only been happening for the last couple of nights but getting worse each time. Once actually asleep (took 1hr 45 mins last night and a lot of persistence from both me and DH, rocking, shushing, feeding, repeat (and a paddy from me Blush ...), she will stay asleep. She's a bit fussy going down for her first sleep at 8pm, which is a new development as well but nothing like the crying after the night feeds.

Possible factors, I have no idea how much any of these may be influencing this, if at all, but just wondering if anyone has had similar: she had a cold for a week and is a bit snotty but this has not stopped her falling asleep for the 5 days before this new fussiness started, she is teething on and off, she has been extra windy and uncomfortable since we started to wean her off Colief so we went back to the maximum dose 2 days ago.

I had a tub of ice cream (yes, a whole one Blush) and a small glass of wine at 10pm last night, could this have affected my milk at the midnight feed enough to make her a bit "wired" and make it hard for her to sleep? That would not explain the escalating fussiness over the last couple of nights though. I'm clutching at straws, I'm desperate not to have this establish itself as a pattern for night feeds, it was horrible.

I don't think it's pain, because she is fine (if a bit fussy) when feeding, it's only when she is actually laid down in her cot that she starts to protest. I don't think it's reflux because she is OK laid down after feeds in the day. I have tried laying her down straight after a feed, and also waiting varying amounts of time after when she is drifting off already. I could wait until she is completely asleep but this is a real step backwards and I don't feel it will help her self-settle which is something we had begun to have some success with

I have also been trying to get her to sleep more in her cot in the day after she had been showing signs of self settling at night for a few weeks (and driven by that bloody article about sleep regression which I wish I'd never read Angry) , I think I got a bit obsessed with this and went too far with it a few days ago with all 3 daytime sleeps in the cot, she was crying heaps when I put her down each time so I decided it was too much too soon and have drawn back to only one daytime sleep in the cot, the rest in sling/buggy. But even while this was going on, she was settling back to sleep after night feeds with no problem at all. Is it possible that I have made her build a negative association with the cot and feel frightened of being put down in it? If so, how do I reverse it?

Is it just extra-clinginess to do with a developmental leap? She's 14 and a half weeks. I'm TERRIFIED that night-time settling will be hideous from now on and I won't be able to cope, I was so wound up last night, I can't spend nearly 2 hours settling her after each feed, I'll go insane Sad

Has anyone with older babies had similar and has it passed? (please, please, please tell me it passes! Confused).

So so sorry for me me me post yet again. It just seems to have got a lot harder recently. I know compared to some I still have it pretty easy, and I'm sorry to ask for help, but my need to be in control and to know what to expect and to have protocols to deal with situations makes these sudden unexpected changes really hard for me to cope with and mentally it makes me go off the rails a bit and get really stressed and really down.

PS I did have a massive talk with DH, thank you for the suggestions. Long story short he listened and was amazing but I also worked out that it was mainly my own insecurities being projected onto him, I'm still afraid of hurting her in a moment of stress or anger (putting her down roughly, patting her back too hard, etc) and making her cry really hard, so I panic when she cries hard, and need to comfort her, and so if she cries with him and he doesn't respond quickly enough to it so that it escalates, I over-compensate a bit with my own need to comfort her to make up for the thoughts of being rough with her, or the guilt of having patted her too hard etc. DH says I'm being daft and everyone loses it sometimes and gets stressed with babies, and I give her to him when I feel I'm in danger of getting cross with her for not stopping crying so I don't need to worry. God, but the incessant crying hits a nerve sometimes! I haven't explained all this very well but it's definitely A Thing in my head. My head is full of Things Sad.

3.2.1 relax...

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crazypaving · 31/01/2013 10:48

lisbeth can totally relate to being afraid of the 2yr old! I live in fear of his next tantrum as I never know what ds2 will be doing and whether I'll be able to physically wrangle him as he may require, or whether I'm so sleep deprived that I'll respond completely inappropriately (ie shout) and make the entire situation spiral completely out of control. lately I've been shouting lots and we're both utterly miserable Sad doesn't help that ds2 is doing proper wonder week bastard behaviour and will. not. be. put. down. ever.

god I could scream. not having a good week.

sorry this post escalated! hello everyone! I'll get me coat...

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lisbethsopposite · 31/01/2013 11:03

Poor Yomping and breathe.....

I don't think baby raising is the exact science you want it to be.
While I an not instinctively as controlled as you, I do like my things tidy - I fold my t-shirts in tissue paper, Benetton like, they stack easier! I have had to let go of tidiness in the wake of a toddler. I did not want to be one of those awful mums some of my childhood friends had with immaculate homes and fear of dirtying/untidying anything.

Babies are hardy. They actually are. Otherwise the human race would have ceased.
They are not put on earth without protection either. They have loads of reflexes to protect them. My toddler when he falls, always puts his chin to his chest - head is the last thing to reach the ground. Putting down a little roughly - been there Blush not proud of it. What they can't protect themselves from is being shaken, so once we don't do that, we are doing ok.

I read somewhere that babies have to be born when they are,else they would not fit out. Their brains have loads of growing and developing to do. Also they do not realise at the start they are a separate person to mummy. Separation can be hard for them - or not. Depends on the day.
I can't advise re schedules as we don't have one. Paul is asleep now but was awake lots of the night Shock

Sorry if that is no help.

crazypaving · 31/01/2013 11:07

x-post yomping it is a phase, it will pass. I promise. can't tell you when though I'm afraid, which is shit I know. so hard to cope with, poor you Sad

crazypaving · 31/01/2013 11:08

lisbeth tissue paper Shock Shock Shock

BoraBora · 31/01/2013 11:08

Considering going to GP to get advice on how many calories I should have to loose weight when BF. Will it just be a waste if time with her telling me what I already know?

Olivess · 31/01/2013 11:13

yomping we have exactly the same problem and DD is 15 weeks. She is getting really hard to settle at night. Waking 5/10 minutes after being put down. She is also taking longer to settle in the evenings, often 2 hours. Last night I decided to go back to co-sleeping. This worked much better. She settled really well after each night time feed and I felt much calmer as a result. Still feel exhausted this morning cos at 2am while she was sleeping peacefully I was wide awake and couldn't get back to sleep!

I figure for the sake of my sanity and her happiness I would rather co-sleep and then gradually re/introduce her to the cot when she is ready. I think this fussiness was telling me she needed to be a bit closer to me at the moment so that's what we're doing. The baby whisperer can fuck off.

On the train going to London. The Pendelino has rocked her to sleep.

Olivess · 31/01/2013 11:15

yomping we have exactly the same problem and DD is 15 weeks. She is getting really hard to settle at night. Waking 5/10 minutes after being put down. She is also taking longer to settle in the evenings, often 2 hours. Last night I decided to go back to co-sleeping. This worked much better. She settled really well after each night time feed and I felt much calmer as a result. Still feel exhausted this morning cos at 2am while she was sleeping peacefully I was wide awake and couldn't get back to sleep!

I figure for the sake of my sanity and her happiness I would rather co-sleep and then gradually re/introduce her to the cot when she is ready. I think this fussiness was telling me she needed to be a bit closer to me at the moment so that's what we're doing. The baby whisperer can fuck off.

On the train going to London. The Pendelino has rocked her to sleep.