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November 2012 - sleeping through yet?

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StuntNun · 09/01/2013 23:03

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1647736-November-2012-losing-sleep-and-losing-weight

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Passmethecrisps · 13/01/2013 20:57

We demonstrate femidoms to the kids at work as part of the relationships and sexual health unit. The kids cannot take them seriously at all - they look like wind socks.

I was on the impant for 3 years and had an almost constant period - it was superb contraception! I have tried the injection (another constant period and produced milk), the mini-pill (more constant periods, spots and weight gain) and the combined pill (wonderful but I have very occasional visual migraines so it is thought to be dangerous). I suspect we will need to use condoms as I really, really don't want to use the coil. I am simply not ready to think about a second baby and seriously think I may feel too old by the time we are ready to have another so I am just not sure.

Evilwater · 13/01/2013 21:01

Horsey - LOL!
I want the implant, but on the this type of pill that uses the same hormone, I feel cold all the time. I thinking about the coil.
I also forget the pills.

Evil

kirrinIsland · 13/01/2013 21:04

Another vote for VQ's thread title!

I've got a palm &ponds Mai tei off eBay - it's great.

kissy same here Blush

Passmethecrisps · 13/01/2013 21:05

ROFL horsey! You forget that all this is done while walking with a waddle due to judgey pants being hoiked right up in response to someone driving a 4X4 in the town

Sophiathesnowfairy · 13/01/2013 21:07

I am another one destined for the mirena coil, still dubious, like you mm I would rather steer clear of hormones as they always seemed cock up my system but for some reason the NHS seem to push them. They must be fabulous but I looked on the cfamily planning threads and a lot of peeps seem to complain about them.

Can not get to grips with condoms. It's the smell. Ewww.

horseylady · 13/01/2013 21:09

Btw - I am all for co sleeping and no routine!! Just at some point in life routines do occur!! It just makes me smile when people say last we tried to put him in his own bed and he cried for 2 minutes. Yeah no shit Sherlock?!

ValiumQueen · 13/01/2013 21:09

pass are you not a young thing? Obviously not as young as some of us, but very young compared to me!?

Sophiathesnowfairy · 13/01/2013 21:10

Lol horsey and more loling at pass

pass this is why I am worried about the mirena coil, I too seem to get constant periods with everything and so am worried that this will do the same. Although apparently it settles down to o bleeding so that can't be bad.

Passmethecrisps · 13/01/2013 21:18

Hmm sophia this is what I was told with the impant. I kept being promised that the periods would stop completely and by the time gave up waiting on that happening I only had 6 months left of it.

VQ I am 34 at the moment. I am not sure we would be in a position to have another for maybe 3 or 4 years and I know that this is plenty you h enough for another but I just can't see us in that position. You never know though. Our work situation would need to change though.

MissMummy1 · 13/01/2013 21:19

The NHS is bribed by pharmaceutical companies to push drug hormone based contraceptives, hence they are recommended with such regularity. Hormones also turn me into a psychopath!

sophia meant to say a massive thank you - aveeno lotion totally cleared up her nasty cradlecap. Still rubbing grapeseed oil into her hair overnight (because it makes it lovely and soft) but lotion made such a huge difference in just a day. Thank you! Thanks

Passmethecrisps · 13/01/2013 21:21

Me too sophia on the aveeno tip! I had a tube kicking about so tried it on P's eyebrow cradle cap - gone!

KissysUnderTheMisteltoe · 13/01/2013 21:23

I was thinking about the Mirena coil too pass and Sophia but like u have had constant bleeding with other hormone contraception. Also can't take the combined pill cos of visual migraines. Not sure what to do really, though tbh DP and I pretty much used the withdrawal method for most of our 13 years together and never got PG until we tried Blush not going to take a chance now though!

blonderthanred · 13/01/2013 21:26

My poor boy has been either feeding, sleeping or screaming for the last 2 days. I assume it is his system getting used to the formula and the massively increased quantity of milk he is getting now. Think he needs a poo, nothing since last night. So maybe it's best that J turned the bottle down VQ.

I guess it will pass (any tips?) but I am thinking of missing a couple of top ups as I think he is getting overloaded. Am at new mums group at clinic tomorrow so will see if I can speak to anyone. I don't see the point in effectively force feeding him. He is so unhappy.

I miss my smiley alert boy, it's like going back to the colicky early weeks again. Sorry to be so miz.

I think it's quite funny that we got bitched about. 'Shite people say on MN' includes a high frequency of sense of humour failures and Missing The Point.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 13/01/2013 21:28

Am another on going for the coil I think. Is DH's birthday tomorrow so I suppose DTD ought to be on the agenda.

BigPigLittlePig · 13/01/2013 21:32

Kissys think I too am with you on the 6 months...Blush
DH has been made aware of contraception - he will not be wearing sweetie wrappers! Withdrawal method is his weapon of choice, I'm not so sure - the thought of accidentally getting pregnant scares the shit out of me

Sophiathesnowfairy · 13/01/2013 21:34

So pleased the Aveeno has been successful. Smile

Kyzordz · 13/01/2013 21:39

Hey everyone! Think this is the first time I've managed to post on this thread, though I do read it regularly after the last feed at night. I wonder if the lady complaining at our thread title has read any of our posts? If so she'll know lots of our LOs are sleeping well, so there :p they all go at their own pace and I for one didn't expect Eric to sleep through yet, he dropped his 2ish bottle by himself! I think he's trying to drop another one but Surely he's too young :/ he has his last bottle at 10-11 and goes till 6-7ish. Past week though he's not woken up in the morning, I don't know how long he'd go if I left him but he'd have his four hourly day thing all over the place if I just left him to it! On the other hand I'm thinking of leaving him and seeing how long he'll go in one stretch and go from there. No idea :/

He's a big sleep lover but I shouldn't really complain should I? He gets in a right tizz if I try to keep him awake and he's tired, I was only keeping him up a little because I didn't think he'd sleep at night but he does still!

All the talk of weaning earlier in this thread or the last one ( I forget) makes me nervous, I need to read up on it I think. Eric is 10 weeks on Tuesday so I think I have a while yet lol! Weaning is 6 months ish right?

Re contraception, I want my stick thingy back in, the implant doodle. I'm not one for condoms, they drive me insane!

Glad you're sorting things now evil, hope it all works out

Maybe try a few more times with the bottle of formula vq, you've done really well and I think maybe just the one bottle will give you a bit of rest :) perhaps do as someone else said and go for a different feed to give bottle but change to the time you want when he's better with it?

Can't remember what else I wanted to say now! The boy is stirring and snuffling about but dh seems to be doing ok by the sounds of it! I'll try and get another post in before the end of the thread lol! shuffles off out of the way again

nillynoon · 13/01/2013 21:42

Not sure what to do about contraception here either - have a mini pill prescription but dint fancy the hormones at the moment. The LAM method is meant to be as effective as condoms for 6 months, so might leave it till then. I'm allergic to latex and non latex condoms are awful!

Kyzordz · 13/01/2013 21:47

Sorry to hear your lo is uncomfortable blonder, does he like the bath? When e didn't do a poo for almost two days and seemed really miserable I cycled his legs and gently pressed his tummy when he had a bath and he managed one plus heaps of farts! He seemed so much happier after. he relaxes in the bath So perhaps thats why he Went. I'm sure someone mentioned Vaseline too? Round their bum I assume!

Hopefully his system will get used to it, poor fella. Could you try not giving a top up when he seems to have had a good feed? Or give a top up every other feed? Or even giving one every time but giving less at first until he's used to it/has a bigger tummy? Sorry if these are silly suggestions Blush but hope he's alright soon x

StuntNun · 13/01/2013 21:55

Clearly the MNer that criticised our thread title hasn't read it or they would have noticed we've been talking about weaning our two-month-old babies too!

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Passmethecrisps · 13/01/2013 21:55

I second the massage and baths blonder. P gets terribly constipated and uncomfortable so I am getting used to trying all sorts. Cycling legs chills her out a bit if she is getting upset about trapped wind. I have put a tiny bit of Vaseline just inside P's bottom to ease any very dry poo. I also use the odd oz of water. The last few days I have also had to introduce prune juice as P has been rabbit pooing. You have my sympathies as it is just dreadful. There is so little that can be done about it. Could you fractionally reduce each top-up and increase gradually over time. Or maybe start with just one top-up per day until he can poo well then add one more and so on.

ChunkyChicken · 13/01/2013 22:00

I may do the mirena coil too whilst I decide if I want another - although DH is already saying our family is complete & has asked GP about a vasectomy Shock. Think he wants the ease of not having to think about it, after using the withdrawal method. As with you kissy have only got pg when trying & not pulling out.

We DTD this a.m. after going to a wedding reception last night & staying in the hotel shan't mention the 2 kids asleep in the same room or anything Blush but you got to take the opportunity when you get it . Was a bit rushed so not as satisfying as it might have been but things are getting back to normal down there. Tbh though I struggle getting my head in the right place & think bfing has reduced my oestrogen so I'm not really in the mood physically iyswim. I think I struggle to go from being mummy to wife... I'm sure tiredness is a big part of this too, so Fc it'll improve as DS gets older.

That's tricky blonder - its good if he's looking fatter but not good if its making him miserable & consti

Sorry nilly but "LAM"? Am I being daft? :)

ValiumQueen · 13/01/2013 22:03

blonder oh gosh I am so sorry. Like you have not been through enough with the feeding! I do hope things improve soon.

About weaning, if you do the purees, I can highly recommend ikea ice cube trays. Lovely and flexible, and cute shapes. I also like the tommee tippee pots for when they are on meals. Just the right size and often three for a quid in poundland or aldi.

DS is even managing to look pissed off in his sleep. Earlier when I was feeding him after his bottle trauma, he kept smiling at me.

I am so glad I am now sterile!

Kyzordz · 13/01/2013 22:08

I totally forgot to say about cooled boiled water! I offer it to e between feeds, I know some people frown upon it but he's on thicker milk and will do two poos in a day if he's drunk some water so I'm convinced it helps him. Even just half an ounce helps, and I think you can add the tiniest amount of sugar for a very constipated baby, but don't quote me on it.

blonderthanred · 13/01/2013 22:12

Thanks Kyz. I think maybe we went in too fast with the top ups. I have ebm as well so will try alternating and sometimes just bf. Need him to gain weight but don't want to make him ill. Balance.

We haven't had sex. Well not recently. Will prob go back to condoms, they kind of suit us. Would very much like a DC2, I'm 36 so don't want to leave it too long. Maybe start trying again when DS is 1. would secretly like 4 DCs but too old and DH says no