December 2012 - the sleep and poo thread (too much of one, not enough of the other)

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R has one of those ^^ for the sling, but would work as pyjamas?

Folded sleep mitts over last night too - had forgotten them till then! Godsend as they not only stop him scratching himself but me as well when he feeds..

We've been putting him in his grobags since birth but he was 8lb 7 so hasn't seemed to be an issue. Better night last night, after a real battle getting him settled. Went down at about 12.30, woke at 2, 3.30, 5 and 7.30 (which written down doesn't look great actually!) but for 15-20 mins and straight back to sleep each time. Only issue is unless he's out for the count when we transfer, he just will not sleep unless it's in our bed. Please tell me how I can stop this; I want our bed back!!

We made it to nursery! Would you believe they haven't even gritted the main roads round here?!

With a sleeping bag you just put them in their vest and grow. You can get sleeping bags with arms but they're £££

Pidj I have several of those fleece suits that people have bought me, only found them last night! Ill give it a try in his caboo.

Utopian I watch for when F falls asleep, wait for 10mins then put him in the basket. He drifts in and out of sleep and feeding to start, I don't count that in the 10mins, and hold him in a cradled position so he isn't repositioned too much when I move him.

For the last two winters our road had been completely snowed in, however this year gritters have gone past our house every evening, and went past during 1am feed and again 5mins ago.

We only got hippo bags of grit last year for our dirt tracks roads but I thought they would at least do the main ones! Dd's nursery is on a 1:6 hill so glad I didn't fall over

I also tend to give ds a sleepy snuggle before I put him down, more for my benefit than his I think

WL where did you get you're grobag from as I need little ones as A is 7lb 13 and all the ones I find are so much bigger!

Hi everyone, just catching up.

Totally agree that BF can be tough! I've been extremely lucky and not had any physical problems - no pain apart from a mercifully brief episode when DS1 was teething! or issues with weight gain either time, but mentally I can find it really challenging at times. Think it's just that it's so overwhelming knowing that it comes down to you, it's unpredictable and there's no way of knowing when you're going to get a break. As I've said before, I did find that it got a lot easier but I know that doesn't really help much at 3 am when you've not had any proper sleep for days.

Was determined that N would take a bottle so that I could at least have a short break/ bit of freedom but we're at 6 weeks already and I've done nothing about it! Need to get the pump sterilised and get on with it I think, but N has got a cold and is all snuffly so not sure if it's the best time to introduce something new.

Ellie - hope your DD has a lovely birthday.

I think the weight thing is new with sleeping bags, I'm sure that as long as their head can't slip through its fine, but we are a long way off that. I never gave it a thought last time.

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah tax credit people are bastards thank fuck for dp and his air of quiet menace i very nearly swore at the gibbering idiot on the phone!!

O no pidj whats happened?

bella my sleeping bag is a gro bag one, says from 7lbs on the label - it's 0-6 months and has extra poppers for under the arm pits to help them stay in place while they're wee. It is quite old though, prob had it for dd1 who is now 5.5, so maybe they've changed? Check out www.grobag.com

So four months after our car crash they've finally accepted liability! Just need to wait for the settlement the I can pay my credit card bill

I think this must be the 6 week growth spurt hitting hard. Feeding relentlessly last night after she had a melt down of epic proportions after refusing to nap. I've been pacing the stairs with her on and off for 24 hours to get her to sleep some or else its crying and tantrums.

Anyone else experiencing this ass about face at 6 weeks? Got no time for DS1 as I'm totally up to my eyeballs with DD2, its breaking my heart not spending quality time with him, been in tears all day.

Oh Afro! My heart goes out to you. My little one is 6 weeks on wed but we had this pattern of behavior at 5 weeks (so I hope it's the same growth spurt just time shifted, not that I have this to look forward to again).

It's crazy-making, isn't it? It will soon be over and you'll marvel at the visible increase in size afterwards. But man, tough times. Can anyone come and help you?

Just incompetent fools with a superiority complex. I'm coping day to day by the skin of my teeth but extra shit on top sends me loopy. They got some details of my income wrong, but checking the form to correct it is too hard for them, i have to work it all out all over again and ring them back. Ffs They can see my first job (16 years ago) but not the bit of paper i sent them last month

Great news spotty!

Sorry to hear about growth spurt difficulties afro; it's something I was wondering about the other day as we'd like O to have a little brother/sister not a million miles from him in age but would mean him being 15-18 months ideally (i know there is NO way of actually planning it that effectively!)

May I ask how people with 2 or more are finding it?

Utopian it's really hard work I'm not going to lie but dd is two and a half she was pretty easy at fifteen months and still napping so that would have made a difference

gro.co.uk/sleep-central/faqs/about-grobag-baby-sleep-bags

This explains the weigh thing with gro bags, all linked to head size. Also explains why some bags say 7oz. Hope this helps.

Gained 12oz since last Monday, now 9lb6oz and gone from 9th percentile to 25th. Wonder how much he would have been if he hadn't done his vomiting Exorcist act last night!

Afro it sounds like my day yesterday, awake from midnight to 11pm with feed vomit scream cycle. Do you have a car? We went for an hour drive which seemed to break the cycle and a good sitting position for stomach ache.

bella - MIL got us 2 grobags from boots which are great as only ones I've seen so far with extra poppers to stop head wiggling through when younger. I think from 7 lb but tbh George could have had them when smaller (we forgot about them) miniclub brand.

oh the buggers pidj sorry about that .

George weighed today 8lb 9 (3.9kg)!! not bad when you weighed 5lb2 exactly (almost to the minute) 5 weeks ago and lost a little in first week huh?! my nipples weep with exhaustion he's now on 9th centile.

he is however in very fussy growth spurt land. I just found this very comforting - we pretty much do most if it but still comforting
kellymom.com/parenting/parenting-faq/fussybaby/

oh Afro just saw your post sorry I missed it. sounds horrendous. I really don't know how you do it with more than one.

we're not quite that bad but fear we are heading that way. must admit am beginning to think the gripe water might be more helpful than previously thought too. anyone else using gripe water? how do you think utterly helped?

Bit of advice please. Edward is now up to birth weight but only gained 2 oz in a week. He is feeding regularly, doing all the wee and poo needed and is actually happy most of the time. The hv is happy to go another week as he has gained weight, but if there isn't good increase she will refer us. I have heard the phrase of failure to thrive. Is this what they mean and what would a referral involve.

I now have 3 and it is hard bloomin work! I feel sad that I don't have much time for dd1+2 at the moment but I do know it will all change soon enough and as soon as we get a routine going on I'll have more time for the big 2. Involving dd2 in the chores - we hung out washing together today, helps.

pmgkt - dd1 was labelled as failure to thrive :-(. It was horrible and we were referred to a paed - they checked her over and found nothing wrong except she just wasn't feeding effectively - we didn't have that much by way of poo and wee but I didn't know it was lacking at the time. It's good to get them checked. Hv's were never bothered by lack of weight gain, but in my case, they should have been.

I'll be quite interested to see what dd weighs as not had it done since day 10 when we were discharged but going to wait until next week at our 6 week check up.

Getting a little concerned that this medicine is still not clearing up Keiras oral thrush, not sure what the next step is as we've had both lots of treatment.

Spotty that's great. We're still waiting to see if they're paying for the replacement car seat, but not holding my breath.

Utopian when DD has a day like this I'd say having 2 is a nightmare, but actually it isn't too bad. Spotty is right that when they are still napping it would be easier, but then at 2.5 DD understood she was going to be a sister.

Keeping DD going to nursery 2 days a week really.helps. It gives me time with just A, and not having to deal with both all the time.

It's the sleep that's a killer. I don't think DD is really being any worse than normal today, and certainly nothing out of the ordinary 2 year old. But after being woken up.every hour last night I have a much lower tolerance.

We have a grow bag from M & co which is from 7lb 7, so we'll use that tonight- I'd assumed that all started at a higher weight (DD was 9lb at birth so fitted even the bigger ones straight away)

Also re two children, it will be much easier when the weathers nice and they can just get out in the garden! I know I could take them out but I don't like the cold or wet! And you can't do picnics or anything at this time if year