October 2012 babies part 2: winding, yawning and grizzling, and first smiles?

[YompingJo]

Part 2: in which our babies learn to sleep through the night and make us tea in the morning

Not really - I did a;ll the things gina ford types say not to - held her when she wanted to , literally never put her down for days at a time sometimes, carried her in a sling constantly, slept her in my bed! She refused moses basket entirely for first 5 weeks so we just held her instead. Am very baby-led. I like to tell myself I made her feel safe and loved ... but in reality I know babies just vary!! It may not last....!

I mean it's not totally random, I do do a few things (most of which I picked up from this forum and you wonderful ladies) - I try and keep night time different to daytime, dark and quiet - I use singing and rocking to get her to sleep and warm basket beforehand - I keep night feeds quiet and do them lying down without much light -i don't change her much at night (or at all, if she's asleep)

So I guess there's some routine to night time, but days are just random (we are mostly out doing stuff, lots of walking/visiting people)

But am just saying, don't feel like I can take credit !!! just enjoying it!

ooh squid I think there's something about babies called Jess - I know another baby Jess who's incredibly chilled and a very good sleeper

I'm pleased cos we had 4 hours last night! Ah well.

londonmrs You poor thing, hope your boob recovers quickly.

Thanks for the thoughts on bathtime. cherry will try the muslin idea - intriguing!

DS1 asleep after mega lunchtime tantrum - again - DS2 snuffling in sling. not long before next feed I suspect! The air gulping continues. Hoping to get to another bf clinic tomorrow morning. Will see how lazy I am

Have had to wait in 2 mornings in a row for plumbers as we have a fairly major leak Staying in is fun with a 2 year old Turns out a pipe under our house has collapsed and they're going to have to dig up the floor and replace it. AAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Utter disaster. Damn old house. It's going to be total mayhem. Just so hoping the insurance company forks out....otherwise no Christmas for us!!

Another jealous one here! Tried putting her to bed before us last night for the first time - got her settled around 8.45 (all a bit delayed thanks to mega strop from dd1) and she did really well, slept till 2am. But then woke at 4 and 6 for feeds and settled at 6.50. Just in time for the alarm to go off at 7am. Sigh.

marking spot - no news. except demonic toddler

lisbeth maybe our demonic toddlers can get together and learn about being nice toddlers somehow?!

squid that's interesting- mine has refused basket totally but just turned 5 weeks. There is hope! Tho I do sneakily enjoy having her next to me.
She seems to have a couple of colicky hours every night now. Anyone else have this? Trying infacol at mo but don't really think anything helps much- they just have to grow out of it.

I'd be afraid they'd injure each other and their mother's would be blamed for neglect.

Londonmrs when that happens me I think there is wind there. Perhaps interrupt her after a certain amount of time and see if any wind comes up, then continue.

I think I was told that you can have small air bubbles in the stomach with feeding that are not a problem. After a while they come together, making a big air bubble, and that is the problem. This is why you can get a burp a while after feeding/winding.
If boob is very painful and feeling engorged, just express enough to take away the soreness. I think it would not be good to ignore. Even just by hand in the shower.

Mikey - well done you!!
HuffleP - you need to name change to shewhowillnotbedefeated. Nah Huffle is nicer

Blocked duct A bleb is like a calcium deposit that often causes a blocked duct - it feels like a little hard bit of grit. You have to get it out - google it, if you think you have one. Some people are prone

squid

Can I ask you all, are you getting your babies presents for Christmas? I'm not sure what to get - still got lots of dd1s old toys but want to get her something new partly because I'd feel a bit mean not getting her anything of her own for her first Christmas and partly because otherwise dd1 will be very muddled that Santa didn't bring anything for baby! Don't want to spend much though.... Thinking tesco and clubcard voucher exchange may be way forward!

lizzietme too - like having baby in bed and he seems sooo relaxed.
Cot is handy place for laundry

Haven't thought that far yet smiley.
We did not do 'santa' with DS1 and he is 2 so we probably won't do this year.... maybe....
Must say I love Christmas so ...
BTW Zara glad to hear the Irish family network is helpful. I also have a nice family, boundaries can be a bit blurred sometimes but help is never far away

Not sure what to get for Christmas smiley. A mini Santa outfit!

www.mamasandpapas.com/product-babyplay-tummy-time-activity-toy/755882728/type-i/

Sorry, selfishly reading but no time to post. DH is exhausted minding DS and is sleeping........... !!!!!?? Yeah, try it everyday boyo!!

Above is link for what I hav bought for Santa present. Ironically it shows a toddler but is designed for babies. Is v v v cute and loads going on. Can't hav nothing for first Christmas but know families will go mad so no intentions of much more

londonmnrss ouch ouch ouch, hope u ok and does not turn in to feckin bloody mastitis.

Sorry, hav not retained enough info to post to anyone else and must go! Except yes, Lisbeth, I shall not!!!

Xx

Am way behind and need to read several pages before I post properly, but thought I'd share a shocking discovery...

I have been feeling so much better that libido has returned, and I had a little, ahem, private time a couple of mornings ago. Wanted to check everything working OK and intact before letting DH in! Can happily report that all systems are fully functional and I appear to be pain free but... TMI alert... my vibrator has shrunk . This is horrifying! Is it normal for one's vibrator to shrink after giving birth? Will it ever return to its former size?

can't even begin to accept the embarrassing alternative to the vibrator having shrunk

smiley we arent planning on getting ds much although a lovely 'babys first christmas' dec for the tree is a nice idea. something for keeps too. mamas and papas do some nicely boxed up.

yomping. i love you.. the subject we all want to start off at some point
i come bearing good news! current is my second and admit not speaking from current experience (its still a cordoned off unit as far as i am concerned) but i had dd 9 years ago and i can massively vouch for the ol dull but good pelvic floor. everything didnt magically pull together after a few weeks but a few months after i can honestly say things were in better shape than pre baby. i did wonder if it was my bodys way of trying to reject any penis coming anywhere near me again to avoid another car crash labour. honestly though - i promise that given time things get there. i remember a nurse during a smear test post baby asking if i did yoga (honestly).

also yomping you have inspired me to give things a go soon. maybe not scary one eyed things but a test to see if i feel ok. oo DP and i had a snog with tongues last night. i know - sounds like nothing but to be at the mo a MASSIVE step to our relationship showing glimmer of hope of getting vaguely near to something it was pre ds birth 4 weeks ago.

Hello all. Have been AWOL since the new thread started. sorry. Been trying to keep up but don't seem to have enough time to do anything at the moment. However after reading the past couple of pages I'm terrified- are we supposed to have baby in a routine by now?! I'm still desperately trying to cope by changing and feeding when he demands and he sleeps a lot of the rest of the time. I didn't know we were supposed to have started training them by now. When they are awake what are people doing to entertain them. Babyhoney isn't interested in his toys much yet but when he's awake I feel bad just letting him lie in his basket.

honeymum21 routine?? bloody hell. you are not alone! def dont have one. currently doing everything 'on demand' and reminding self to eat and wash let alone get Gina Ford involved.

also, does doing fart noises on his cheeks count as entertaining?

Phew! Thanks. Fart noises on his cheeks is more entertaining than I'm managing. Babyhoneu doesn't seem to even be interested in anything like that. Is that normal or should he be engaging with stuff like that now?

honeymum I'm a firm believer that nothing you do before 12 weeks counts. Routine is very much Not Occurring here either. Just looking at and talking to your baby is pretty much as much entertaining as they can handle at this age - but I'm no expert! That's all babypaving's getting - if he's lucky

Thanks :) the talking he's getting at the moment is generally words to the effect of 'haven't you got a useless mummy' but in a cheerful singsong voice!

Routine? Ha! No routine here unless you count a bath at night. And stuffing a boob into her mouth if she cries followed shortly by her puking on me and then changing clothes. Then starting again....

No routine for me either - some good days, some not so, sometimes awake for hours, yesterday slept almost all day, I'm taking same approach as Squid being led by baby needs just now, hopefully turns out as successful as Jess - 7-7 is like a dream...

Wholeheartedly agree...totally no routine at all and meep is almost 6 weeks... Bathtime everynight varies from 6pm to 8pm... And yep only reliable thing is boob in mouth what feels like most of day...oh and awakes in middle of night!!!
Totally panic about entertaining too...lots of songs about changing nappies and just wait a minute mummy is just popping to loo type lyrics...
Cant seem to put meep down either. Arms killing. Watched 3 series of brothers and sisters so far...
Also had milk bleb in nipple. Painful for about 3 weeks but has gone now with no scary needle going anywhere near nipple.Relief...
Can really recommend the book Breast is best by dr penny stanford. My mum, a midwife herself said was lifesavers when she had us..m is v v sensible advice...ie it WILL take over ur life for weeks. Wish had read before i had meep as would have had more realistic expectations of life as bf mummy.
God i totally cant imagine anything let alone man bits coming anywhere near my va-jj right now... Youre braver women than me.... Urgh i havent even looked yet....