Dec 08 Mums - Onwards and bloody well upwards!

[Beans36]

How's this? Thought I'd just press on with it!

It was me! Hurray! I suggested something useful for once! I did Rachel Waddilove, who I found absolutely brilliant and more flexible than GF. And just slotted into putting either little down after 1.5-2 hrs of awake time. It worked really well, although a bit harder with 2 others doing school etc, but I'm sure the third just has to learn to sleep in other places than just their pram or cot! I did do some ignoring of them crying when I had to get things done with DD2 and just couldn't get on with anything! But she learnt to go to sleep on her own, which I think is bloody brilliant! I only have 2, though, so no idea about 3! But do have a look at Rachel Waddilove.

HOpe you feel better soon. I am totally zonked today, despite having my first proper 8 hours sleep since Dad died.

I am really struggling to like our puppy though, which is no good. Sure she'll grow on me, but it's such bloody hard work! And I don't love her like I did the girls, so I felt I could put up with a lot more from them!

just back from Boston, skimmed and caught the tail end of someone having triplets but I hazard a guess it's part of a joke I didn't see or I have missed a few threads!
Good you're finally getting sleep Beans. Things will be much better with the puppy when she is TT, honestly. Your girls got the TT really quick so this probably seems much harder!
Right, dinner to sort, wine to consume, will try and get back.

I think the triplets were a dream Rubes. The dream then extended to requiring sustenance in the form of cake.

Sorry about the puppy Beans. I haven't had to deal with a puppy since having children & both the cats we have had were house trained when we got them. I can say I found the extra effort required to give the animals the attention they needed was not appreciated at all, when I already had children & husband to devide my time between. But eventually they grew on me. Marshmallow, now is settled into our family and has found her place and we couldnt imagine our house without her. Don't feel bad, it is bloody annoying but you will fall for the puppy eventually, though it may no longer be a puppy by that time. Don't forget it has just lost its mummy & brothers & sisters, so it's bound to feel a bit bereft itself. Poor pickle.

I had a dream about having triplets. Great big triplets that all came out the same age as ds2. I thought I should eat cake to recover .

Beans I hope the puppy sttles in with a bit of time.

Beans I went through the exact same thing with our pooch when we got him.

Are you crate training him? If so did you buy a massive crate for him to grow into? If you did you need to make it smaller for him until he grows a bit. This means he will not pee or poo in it and he will feel a bit more secure. Also wear an old t shirt get your scent on it and wrap it round his bedding so that he can smell you.

It is bloody hard work for a few weeks they are like babies.

I assume he has had all his jabs now and you can walk him? This will help.Also find a local trainer and get to puppy classes, get him well socialised with other dogs. Do you have any friends with dogs? I often take Louis out for a walk with a friend and her dog. We can gossip to our hearts content and the dogs try to hump each other play.

Oh I also put a blanket over the cage at night to make it super dark in there. A bit like when I crack den'd DS2 bedroom to keep him asleep. It worked for the dog but not the child.

Ooh I do want a dog one day. I shall listen to all the advice and live through others for now!

My theory re routines vs baby led whatever is that a proportion of babies love routines, another third want to plough their own way and the other third can't decided what they want! No one plan works for all and it really depends on the baby. Hope you feel brighter soon RT. Having 'good' days is an excellent sign you are turning the nausea corner.

Nigella's on. I've had two bowls of cornflakes for tea. I'm going to be so hungry watching this!

Exactly what Jam said Beans - we did all that with ours, and yeah, don't forget the little thing has just been separated from it's Mummy and siblings where they all huddled together - but obviously you have to vent - it can be bloody tedious, even without kids to look after as well!

Update on the seat belt undoing I meant to say ages ago - she just suddenly stopped doing it and then I started really praising her when she would ask me after I turned the engine off, if she could undo it, and she is really thrilled with herself! so far at least.......

That's why I got guinea pigs...no training involved! I can barely control the DCs let alone a dog

Rubes good news on the car seat.

Indith have you named them babies yet??!

Beans, yup we did exactly the same as Jam. Gresley still goes in his crate now if the boys are being too loud. The poor thing is having his bits chopped off soon.

Hons, if/when you get a dog, do not get it in winter. Gresley came home on 10th December and it was horrible doing toilet training in the snow. If we have another it'll be coming in summer.

I can't name the babies! Finding one more name for a boy was bad enough, I cna't do another 3!

I could never have a dog. The training, the walking, teh need to play with them. The way they come up to you all puppy eyed and pathetic going "play with me play with me!". Nope, i get enough of that with the children. Give me a cat any day, toilet train them selves and generaly ignore you apart form teh odd demand for a tummy rub.I like cats.

My children are exhausted and neeeeed half term. Poor ds1 is having toilet blips again. Wet himself yesterday, wet the bad last night but didn't wake up, I woke him this morning and found him fast asleep in a soggy bed and then soiled on teh way to school. The poor boy were about 30 seconds away from the gates when he went "I need a poo! It's coming now!" and started to cry :(. Good job school are lovely and we had him all sorted in no time. Going to be a long last week!

Poor DS1 Indith this term seems to have gone on forever.

Another accident at school, white as a sheet, crying. He has been brought home by one of the TAs. Done a massive poo and says his tummy feels better after than but he has gone to bed.

Gosh Indith poor little guy, maybe it was so big it hurt him. Though sounds like he my have a bug if he has gone to bed. Does he usually nap at this time?

I have just pulled up all my veggie plants chucked some and put some in my shiny new compost bins. My veg garden was all potted or grow bag based so I'm tipping all the soil into the compost bins which are sitting over my two larger gardenbeds, which themselves are over the pavers. I still had some of my tomatoes going red but it's going to be freezing by the end of the week so wanted to get as much of the work done before I freeze my fingers off trying to do it

That sounds productive Vag!

"Does he normally nap at that time?" Er no he is normally at school :)

He's ok, he is shattered that's all, nearly half term though! When shattered he tends to regress a little on the toilet front so I expect he was holding it in and then of course upset himself with the accidents and didn't realise what the tummy ache meant (that he needed to go). So he is fine now, done a slightly urgent and a bit loose poo on the loo since which is fairly normal after a spot of witholding. Just hope he is normal now for the rest of the day so he can go to school tomorrow. I shall be nice to him though and we'll skip breakfast club and I'll take him in the car rather than walking.

They are watching more TV now because they've been driving me mad wrestling and making a mess and generally misbehaving.

Oh indith, poor little man. Hope he's better for tomorrow.

DS is dreadful for wetting himself at pre school. I dare not think what he will be like at school. I know he's got a year before then but all he ever says is "Im busy mummy" BTW, anyone's Dec 08 baby still in pull ups at night? I can't ever see they DS will be dry at night!!

when DS will be dry at night...and they are a long way from babies now too!

Oh gosh yes DB, dd still wears a nappy at night and has to be bribed with stickers to bother going to the loo in the day! Just one sticker per day mind you. Being dry at night is hormonal and the normal age to produce the right hoemone is anywhere up to 7 so there are a few years left before it becomes a medical concern! Ds1 only ditched the night nappies this last summer so aged 5 and a half.

DS1 was the same as Indith's DS1, he has just started being dry at night at 5 and a half. Every night last week he woke me up as he had wet the bed. DS2 is still in nappies at night and they are soaked in the morning.

Yeah DS's are very wet. The other day he even poo'd in it at some point in the night...minging!

It's hard to know what's what because DD basically TT herself at 2, and has been dry at night since shortly after! Although I'm aware that's not common.

Hello all, so much chat on here at the moment, nice!

I was going to ask about the pull ups at night as DS also still wears them and is usually wet in the morning. I am not going to even try yet, as he was a nightmare to TT in the first place. (Rubes, TT still means Time Trial to me!) Next will be DD but I am putting that off too, even though I think she will be easier.

Poor DS indith

beans hope the puppy gets easier soon. He does look super cute. How could you not love him? (that's cos he's not shitting all over my house). Actually I am with Indith, really really don't ever want a dog. DH does however. It was him who wanted the kids most too! He won on that one, I am holding out for the forseeable on the dog.

RT I would try Gina if you fancy it. You are experienced enough with babies to not stress out too much if it doesn't work out and just accept it didn't suit. I have a friend who did it, and her baby barely cried, there was no screaming, slept through from about 6 weeks I think. Robot Baby. She was really really strict about it though, which I would have found tedious. Her second was not so compliant either, which may be cos she couldn't adhere so rigidly to it, or could be cos he is harder work (I suspect the latter)
I think the bad thing about GF is that people get so committed to trying to make it work and it stresses out poor new parents, as it clearly doesn't work with all babies.

DD2 is still in pull ups at night. We had to buy the expensive ones for older kids as she is sowet that anything else leaks. And to add to the horror she poos in the night about once every 10 days. She never nas accidents in the day though. I think she is on the late side for night training a girl, I know lots of little boys aged 4 and above who wear night vapours but v few girls. I'm not sure I totally buy in to the idea that you can't push night training as it's biological. DD1 was sopping wet every night aged 3 and I told her it was time to stop, made a sticker chart and removed her nappy and hey presto it was done. She had about one accident ever. But she's that sort of child, DD2 isn't.

No sickness yesterday after horrible Monday but feeling iffy as I sit on the Tube now. At least there is occassional respite.

Where is Trace??? Have we heard from her since her move and since L started her new school?

Vapours? How can an iPhone make vapours from nappies?

I was thinking that night "vapours" was some kind of new thing you plug in at night to give off a scent to remind the child to wake up and use the toilet
DS in nighttime Pull ups. usually a few wees in there Sometimes more sometimes less. Only dry once.
Fingers crossed for an ill free day RT

Conversation over breakfast just now.....
DS: "Mummy are you going to have a baby?"
ME: "No, mummies already had all her babies, why did you ask that?"
DS: " uuummmm, I don't know" When I was little I fitted in your tummy didn't I?"
ME: "yes DS you did but you are too big now to fit"
DS" yes there's no room there, your tummy is a bit little for me. Your boobies are little too aren't they Mummy"
ME: pmsl "yes they are a bit"
DS: Hmmm Charlotte (at nursery) is having a baby, and it's going to come out between her legs"
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