Dec 08 Mums - Onwards and bloody well upwards!

[Beans36]

How's this? Thought I'd just press on with it!

I have sold something on Ebay! Hurrah! What do I do now? Do I request payment????? I have NO idea!

Yes please, Hons - will email NOW!
x

PS My email re SS bounced back, Hons...

Hi all, coughing & spluttering here but lurgy on the way out which is nice.

Rubs I'm all for dog groomers, my DSIS isa dog groomer on the gold coast. She doesn't actually do the shampooing, her minions do that,( love that term had to slip in). It's quite an art.

In defense of doctors and their airs, esp surgeons, (believe me I've put up with many) to be fair to them they work bloody hard to get to where they are & do some crazy saving life stuff so I think a little God complex is allowed. I would definitely go with the CVS with this guy, you know me all lentil weaving & herbal, if you think this may effect how you bond with the baby that's inside you then I think 100% reassurance is what you need.

Girls, I have my notes for El Massivo catch up. Just wanted to clarify re: Prof N, yep, he ain't too deficient on the ego front But he could swish around in a gold cloak for all I care as he is practically a genius. Arrogant and brilliant will do me just fine! Arrogant and mediocre....well....I think we've all met those I really hope you can go there and have the Greek God himself (he is not good looking though, I warn you now )

I'm in for Secret Santa. I don't think I will abbreviate to SS, it seems to give it a Nazi air

I.will.be.back.

A lot of s there. I think I am just relieved that this half of Nov is over - it's not just Dad on the 4th and DH on the 7th, but Remembrance Sunday always makes me feel really down as well. One of DD1's middle names is Poppy - 2008 was the 80th anniv of the end of WW1 of course, and in the lead up to her being born I cried so much at the heartrending documentaries about it all, we decided she could wear a poppy forever, as it were. Dad's Dad died in WW2 and it really messed him up.

ANYWAY - I know I am burbling on about myself and there really is a lot I want to respond to, so when I have a chunk of time in a bit, am doing it.

Beans Did you include the 'its' as in ItsChristmas etc ?

I'll be back after bedtime so I'll double check what I've done. Not a good start! Don't sack me yet!

I feel very dumb but what do I email? Just name and address?

Ah, I missed out the its

Have to go as screaming nipper! Sorry!

Beans I am laughing at the thought of getting a few hours in bed together by moving his out. If it were that simple he'd be gone already! He doesn't really do sleep unless he is wrapped around me in some way . That would put a downer on teh sex rather.

Ah the baby wakes.

I think half my post didn't go up, or did I think I wrote it.

Beans, I'm glad you got to say goodbye with those that loved him & you looked fabulous for the event.

Indith & Kayz sorry about the lack of sleep & sexy time (Kayz I realise you didn't bring that up). I'm sure your trying everything so will just send lots of sympathy and remind you that, from experience they do sleep eventually and this too shall pass.

Vag, memorial isn't until weds, so will let you know how it is.

Indith, would you ever do the cold turkey thing with DS2, so have a few tough nights with him settling on his own and being screamy until he goes to sleep? I know Rubes and I both had to resort to this in the end when the sleeplessness was untenable with our DDs - DD2 for me. I was just turning into a total harridan and knew it would be better for both girls if I got tough on her ass re sleeping!! And it only took 3 nights. Never looked back! Hurray! But man, it was tough.

I've had a huge meal tonight and am still hungry. Bugger.

Lady, I'll be glad when this year is over.

Urgh clearly I'm still a bit doppy from this cold. I swear I read your post in past tense.

I'm starting Pilates classes tomorrow very excited it's a weekly thing, just fingers crossed dS2 who has a little cough today is good & well to go to pre school in the morning.

I had a little meeting with his future teacher today. He starts school officially just before Christmas, which we both think is a little tricky because he will just get started then go on holidays. So he's going to do a few short days settling in over the two weeks before Christmas holidays, then he'll start every day from January.

Did that address work beans? You will look wonderful and it will be a nice occasion, sad, but lovely to all gather together.

Glad you are through a difficult few weeks ladyt. It is hard to have such significant losses close together in the year. You can move onto happier events. Not long till dd1 birthday time.

Agree with Beans Indith. Haven't looked back either. It was (in our case) 2-3 weeks of utter shambolic nights, however I decided it couldn't be much worse, and was a means to an end. it worked. Worth a try?

Vag - I wanted to try Pilates for posture / back probs but the local one starting is 6pm and can't as dh never consistently home by then.

Am catching up on US & UK X Factor with prosecco - madness. Will sleep well. Excited for posh Wellies arriving tomorrow, then big walk if rain not about

Yeah I'm really lucky it's an Irish lady starting up here & she has a Tuesday morning spot. She only takes 3 people in each class because her studio is small, & it my two running pals & me in this group so should be good.

Not had a chance to come back properly. But wanted to say to Indith. You sound like you are in exactly the same place DH and I were with DS2. Get tough on the boy. And save up and book a babysitter for a couple of hrs. Saved our marriage. if you can't afford a babysitter. I with another friend do our own babysitting circle once a month we sit for each other.

Missed out a whole sentance do what I do babysit circle with a friend.

I know he will sleep eventually. Even dd sleeps most of the time now . I don't mind feeding at night. I don't mind co sleeping once I've gone to bed. It is the lack of settled sleep between the feeds that drives me mad. Hey ho. He will be turned over to dh to settle in whatever way he sees fit between certain hours, we "just" need a slot where he is neither teething, snotty, coughing, spewing or anything else which has not happened for a while!

Pilates sounds good. I love escaping to Body Balance and it really does make a difference, dh has even commented . I missed last week as I forgot to book on and by the time I remembered I had to go on the waiting list. Pah!

Glad you are doing ok LadyT.

How are you RT?

Hope all is well RT. And thinking of you for tomorrow Beans. I hope it will be a wonderful celebration of your dad's life.

Am busy ebaying whilst M looks at Cbeebies. Bad mummy. Kiwi, do you still want those boots and Kayz do you want a coat for R for the winter? Am happy to pop in post if they would help. Just let me know.

Will email re secret santa. great idea.

Hey folks, would someone mind linking to the meet up thread again please as it's disappeared off the "threads I'm on" .

RT I would do the same as you - I appreciate it can't be an easy decision, but it sounds like you'd be having it done at the very best place.

Sleep and shagging-wise - I hear yous who ain't getting the latter because of the former. Also because you're so irritable because of no sleep that you've had a row over the smallest thing so don't fancy the sex anyway.

We'd got all geared up for sleep training here, then I realised we're off to DP's parents for a while at the end of the week so no point really going for it until we get back. But it seems to have improved a lot since then without doing anything. I accidentally gave B a higher dose of his reflux meds because I'd run out of the lower strength stuff and he slept the best he has for months. Not sure if any correlation there or not...

Deids, are you around on Monday, perchance? We'll be in Preston and DP is off to a funeral so it'll just be me and the boys. Fancy a meet-up? Or is anyone else vaguely in that area?

LALALALALALALA to Christmas.

Indith we didn't really do any sleep training just eventually they slept without feeding & then eventually slept through. We did manage to extend the period between the waking for boob by DH being the one that picked him up & settled him (lots of walking around & shushing noises). We also co-slept so DH getting up worked well. It seemed to get dS2 (&1) to realise there were other nice things to settled him than just boobs and eventually he went longer between waking then eventually just stayed asleep or rolled over & snuggled into DH. DH was very obliging because a) he's a good man & b) it substantially increased his chances of sexy time.

Yeah, I'd delay it until you know you're home for a while Spot. Have you ever given them stuff with sleep aid in it when they are ill? Like Medised etc? (not that I'm at all suggesting any kind of sleep enhancing medication for a child who is not of suitable age) just curious if you had, and how they reacted.
Sleep training? I'm fairly sure there was no element of training in my method of getting this little treasure to sleep better. But my method (and sounds like Beans') worked. I may have to write a book It would be one sentence.
I've been feeling crap all day. scratchy throat on the brink of developing into more I reckon.
Achilles tendonitis not getting better despite stretching etc.
Posh wellies arrived today so quite pleased about them though.
Jam any update on the Dress sitch?
Beans hope tomorrow OK for you x

Vag that sounds like the way we have always done things. Co sleep, I feed if they are hungry and dh settles them at other times. Ds1 slept 13 hours solid by 6 months. Dd can't really be compared. 4 months ago it was working nicely, we were getting good blocks of sleep (3 hours or so) and he was settling easily however in the past 4 months we have had growth spurt, learning lots of new tricks, 4 teeth plus 2 more on the way, several colds and some vomit. I don't blame the child for not knowing if he is coming or going! He doesn't actually feed much. Trouble is he doesn't settle for breasts, nor does he settle for dh. So there is much screaming at me when I tr to feed and at dh when he tries to sing. Poor baby. I am ok with it really, I know it will change soon enough but the start of uni is looming and while I can bumble around at home doing daft things I really will have to be on the ball for university.

Rubes when ds1 was little medised was allowed for 3 month plus so he had it at times when he had a cold. It was great for drying up snot and I did think he slept more deeply BUT he always woke up from a medised sleep crying and unsettled when his normal waking was happy and chatty.

I love the term sleep aid Rubes now that is something they SHOULD put in sleep books "If all else fails slip them a dose of medised/tixylix/mogadon". I so wanted to use piriton on a flight once but I hadn't tried it out beforehand. Hey Rubes look after yourself my latest lurgy started with a scratchy throat.

Pilates was good.

Medised has always made them both go absolutely mental. Same with Phenergan. They're the ones in the leaflet where they say "can have completely opposite effect to the one desired"...