November 2012 - babies are here at last

[StuntNun]

This is the post-natal club for graduates of the November 2012 intake.

Donna It's no problem at all. I remember what it's like when you've just had a baby and no matter what number it is, there is always room for doubt when a 'professional' is telling you basically that you're shit! You are not, your little one is thriving, just not fast enough for their charts If she mentions formula, ignore, ignore, ignore then shut the door :)

Shelly l give you advance warning that the big topic for hvs in our area is alcohol abuse, so you will be asked about your drinking and given a leaflet about the dangers of drink, even if you?ve told them you?re teetotal

daisy I too have just discovered the joys of washable wipes. Jealous of teenyfits. Did you get a bargain?

I think detective may be onto something with the craniowotsit horsey

Detective that's my next port of call to be honest. ESP after forceps and the forcing onto breast from the jaw. I've got a meeting Monday and going to a group hopefully wed with the same lady. Just trying to be relaxed about the whole experience with him. And not pin all my hopes on him doing it.

Daisy Lol at that, I've got a bottle of red wine on my coffee table wrapped up, hubby bought it me for my first glass of red wine that I've been dying for , I may offer them a glass when they come. I'm not going to bother with them to be honest, but I'm not surprised at the alcohol abuse thing looking at some of the parents about

Oh I'm glad you have been thinking the same thing and I'm not talking out my arse.

Anecdotal stories I've heard makes me think it sounds like it is worth a try. And I wish I had known when I had DS, as he was a very traumatic delivery :( Extremely unsettled for a long long long time. It wasn't until he was 10 months old he chilled completely :(

Definitely give the cranial osteopath a try horsey they really helped DD. she was born with forceps even tho I had a c section- she was thoroughly wedged in!

Good luck with it x

How do u manage to post let alone keep up! Lol.

My ipad watching bed snuggle time turned into sleep time. So managed a 5 hour nap DH came home from work in time for the crying n feeding time. Lol. Which was great as LO was feeding every two hours today n I was a tad frustrated.

Got a heat pack pressed on my tit getting ready to express while I catch up on X factor USA. Glamorous!

Just wanted to say thanks to those who have posted about the bf/weight issue. As a first time parent I'm not sure I'd have felt confident enough to question what I was told to do by the mws etc or stand up for what I wanted.

Have fed at least every 2 hrs today, L has been in good appetite since my milk started being more abundant, so am hopeful of a gain tomorrow. Fingers xed.

Boo! This is not good, DS was sleeping from 11.30pm to 4am then last night only managed to 3.15am and tonight to 2.45am. His sleep is going backwards.

Also, both DS's are getting colds. DS1 who normally goes to sleep really well took over an hour to settle tonight and now DS2 has got a snuffley nose which is upsetting him and causing him to not feed very well. I thought my milk was supposed to help his immune system?! I've not got a cold so he should be fine!

Seeing all the upset that has been caused by weight loss I guess I am lucky that DS was not weighed until he was a week old as by then he was back to his birth weight so we'll never know how much he lost and re-gained inbetween being born and then.

My LO went 4 hours without a feed, I've been told to not let her got over 3 hours, she's 6lb 4oz will it overly matter if sometimes she does go longer? Seeing the MW to be discharged tomrrow but don't want to be told I'm a ba mummy for letting her

Awake again!

I think the odd 4 hour sleep is fine! If baby is back to birth weight then it's definitely fine and is what I would be hoping for (sorry, can't remember if yours is at birth weight again).

Yeh she is rowing she was only 5lb 14oz born now she's getting right chubby little cheeks. She woke this time after just over 2 hours for her third night feed, hope you've managed to get some sleep

Why do babies make you constantly worry and doubt yourself

Nervous I agree, the odd longer sleeps is fine. It sounds as if she knows what she is doing. She will wake when hungry. You are doing really well

Awaiting the MW, to see me today. If they mention the weight or feeding I will show them the door and call the GP.

When I had my clips out I said I wanted them to stay in two more days as it did not feel sufficiently healed (I am a nurse, and am not the best healer) she said the wound was fine and pretty much insisted they came out. They were sore so I agreed. It was that day I had to traipse to the hospital, so felt shattered, and also the next day. DS is now 8 days old and I do not feel right. I have had a headache for 3 days now, and I mentioned this to the MW yesterday, who did not say anything about it or check BP or even document it. All she wanted to talk about was the poor feeding (grr!)

Last night, getting out of bed to put DS in basket, I felt something pop inside, or get stretched, anyway something was pushed too far by the movement. It felt like the tubal ligation region rather than the section scar or internal stitching in womb. I have had little twinges, but nothing like this pain. It is not constant, it is not agony, but I could not manage DS without help last night. Cue one grumpy DH. DS had the best night ever thankfully.

Headache returned this morning, not eased by lying down. I was putting it down to worry about weight and pressure from MW. I asked my mum to bring her BP machine around just to be sure. 160/100. Not good, but may not be accurate. I took a photo of my scar on the iPad as I cannot see it due to rubenesque figure, and it looks as if it is opening up. It is definately raw, and on feeling it does not have a gaping hole, but it needs checking. My instinct was right to leave it alone. I do not have a temp, but do have a rotten cough too.

I called triage, although the only MW I would happily see is detective, and am awaiting their visit.

Maybe DH will be a bit more sympathetic when he gets home. I just pray I do not have to go to hospital.

Hope everyone is ok. I hear we have a few more graduates, but cannot keep up with the chat on the pre-natal thread.

horsey sorry I cannot link, but if you click on the topics list at the top, it is under 'feed the world' 'breast and bottle feeding' if I recall. I started a thread a couple of days ago and got a lot of support. Tiktok is the breastfeeding queen, so take her advice and sift through the rest.

Aw valium it sounds awful! I hope you get somethig sorted today without a trip to the hospital and lots of support from your DH. Also hope you don't get the same MW who took your staples out

Just feeding LO at in laws, they completely adore her but I know they will think I'm a complete dragon when I go back downstairs and put her in her carry cot, i feel mean doing it but if she gets held for 4 hours she will be a nightmare for me for the rest of the day and night

Horsey I just wanted to let you know that my DS1 wouldn't latch on either. I got him latched on precisely twice, both times as soon as the milk started flowing he spit my nipple out. I had problems with overactive letdown with DS2 but he managed to cope with it so this might have been the problem with DS1 - he couldn't cope with the fast milk flow. Anyway I exclusively fed DS1 using nipple shields for four months then introduced one bottle of formula a day when he started weaning. Do you have nipple shields you could give a try? They are a bit of a hassle but a LOT easier than expressing all the time.

I'd like to make my position clear that I think it is every woman's right to decide how she feeds her baby, whether it be breastmilk from the boob, expressed milk, formula milk, goat's milk, soya milk or any combination thereof. HOWEVER for myself, I will not permit formula milk to pass my baby's lips until their digestive system is mature enough to start weaning. In my opinion baby humans need human milk and nothing else is good enough, formula is a brilliant option for pre-term babies or where the mother cannot feed her baby but I wouldn't consider it as anything but a last resort. Please understand, I am not trying to be critical of anyone's method of feeding their baby. I just want to give the ladies that are struggling some perspective. I will say no to any suggestions of topping up with formula unless there is a medical reason to do so. I want you to make up your own minds on how you feed your baby and not be pushed into something you don't want to do. Some women start topping up with formula and it is a lifesaver, suddenly they find they can cope. But it should be YOUR CHOICE.

Just wanted to shout HOORAY from the rooftops my dd is back to her birth weight infact slightly over and she will be 4wks old on sunday so now finally discharged from home visits and I can stop stressing...so to all you worried ones it can take this long with breastfeeding but they get there in the end YIPEE !

What a bad night we had. LO would not settle, didn't want food or dummy just to be held upright he cried All evening and most of the night. I had to co sleep as it was the ONLY thing that would stop him crying. He didn't even want my nipple to chew on!

The same thing this morning, just would NOT settle, unless being held. He is just made it into his Moses basket. Fingers crossed.

I can't keep holding him for hours, what can I do?
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Donna that is great, congratulations. As I said before I have found the experience and perspectives on this board have really helped me feel I can keep going with the bf and hopefully L will have gained some weight so I don't have to fight my corner to do so.

It seems so strange after 9 months of advice from mws not to allow anything other than my breast until 1 month, even a hint of a teat will hinder bf etc etc to be in this situation now. Like Stunt I don't want to introduce anything other than the breast unless it is really necessary, but maybe a more balanced perspective during pg would be more sensible? The all or nothing approach is going to put of ff-ers who might try combining and make those who want to but can't bf feel shit. Why not have best practice info for those who want to and can ebf but also have practical advice for those who don't want to or can't, to help make the most of whatever their choices or needs are? I know this is a really emotive subject so I hope I've phrased that ok.

We had a bad night as well and L was feeding for so long I started to worry he wasn't actually getting much through but he comes away with milky lips so hopefully he's just found his appetite.

Apparently my wound is ok, just raw skin where the clips overlapped the skin? Internal pains fine. Normal.

BP dangerously high so being admitted. Had a hissy fit initially, refusing to go, but agreed i need to be well to care for my three kids, and said they are admitting me not Jacob, and if anyone mentioned formula they would have it rammed down their throats. I told them it was their fault for stressing me out. The MW was lovely actually.

I will be out of signal unfortunately, so take care, and hope to be back soon.

Bugger VQ... Quick message - you'll be fine, hopefully home in a day or 2. It isn't unusual for this to happen postantally. Promise :)

Comments above noted... daft soppy bugger you are

They don't need to admit Jacob, don't worry :)

Hopefully your in and out soon valium your right that you need to be well to care for your DCs. Are you allowed to take your little man with you?

So sorry to hear it VQ. Hope it's quickly resolved and that you are ok.

L has lost 30 bloody grammes. So they want me to give him 90ml formula 3x a day. Apparently I should think of it that I am the main meal and formula is the pudding.

It's very emotive. I think that's why I've struggled so much. mw been not really put on any weight in two days. They say they're not worried, he's happy and alert but are coming Sunday to weigh him again.

Mw was lovely and said don't panic but it's my baby. How can you say not worry?!! She said it might just be a feeding review.