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Cakes, I was reading a bra thread yesterday and as a rough guide, you should use your actual underbust measurement for your band size (so 34 for you) and the difference between that and your bust measurement is your cup size. So 4 inches = 4 cup sizes, so you would now be a 34D. I think you'd be much better going and getting fitted somewhere (only not M&S or Mothercare as they're shit - maybe John Lewis or House of Fraser if there's one near you). You're supposed to get fitted around 36 weeks, I think, and your nursing bras should be a cup size bigger than you would currently wear to allow for your milk to come in.

Jen and Scarlet, I believe (although I've only been fitted properly during pg so I can't say for sure) that if your bra is uncomfortable or digging in then you're wearing the wrong size. Having said that, I was reading a blog yesterday which said that different styles will fit different boobs better, so you might fit balconettes better than plunge bras, for instance. I'm looking forward to testing all these theories out when I stop bf.

Scarlet, yay for your night out! Are you doing anything special? Hope DS's blood test goes well today.

Does anyone know how you stop bf exactly when your little pickle doesn't like bottles?

Too safety straps are cometsly free and gratis

I CANNOT wait to get back into wired bras! God, I look back of photos while I was feeding ds1 and am at how awful my bosom looked. Not photos of me actually feeding, you know what I mean. I have kind of got used to what my bust looks like now but I know when I go back to proper bras I'll see the difference. I agree that the non wired ones are comfy, but as you say Scarlet, I look like I haven't got one on too!

I believe there are wired nursing bras available, but only in modest sizes. I'm currently something like a 36K (ridiculous) and I think between ds's I'd got them down to a HH or something, or H or J? I forget. I wish they were smaller. Even when I was a size 10 they were an E/F cup. I could just about get in at the big end of the La Senza range, but even then a lot of their styles stopped at a D cup .

All I can say is thank goodness for Bravissimo. Bra shopping used to make me cry before that (and I mean literally). You'd get these horrible women trying to get me into a 72B or something and looking at me as if I was doing something on purpose to make the bras not fit, or as if I was being completely unreasonable to expect a bra to not give me two extra boobs where it cut in . I love Bravissimo a lot.

cometsly? Completely!

Errrr that's tricky Pomme

Would she try a beaker?

I have an underwired bra - the Anita. Its a bit crap to be honest and I would not buy it again!

biscuits - she will try with a beaker but just can't take very much. I need to begin a more wholehearted approach really. i keep vowing to make the middle of the feed a formula one but time gets away with me and I put her on the boob!

middle of the day feed!

Well DD has finally gone to sleep. Normally she has had a couple of naps by now so was overtired and really crabby. Fingers crossed she has a good long sleep now

Hope DS is ok this afternoon Scarlet

DS1 eventually went to sleep and I also got DS2 down in the cot.

thought I was doing great till i turned on the monitor. cue DS2 bursting into tears. I'd left the parent unit in the bedroom and the loud feedback scared the crap out of him :( oops! he's back on the boob now, not sure if he'll sleep though!

Hope DS gets on ok scarlet

pomme avent used to do a soft spout that fitted on their bottles, maybe something like that would work?
I have no sizable chest to speak off so I never wore underwired. I am currently a 38 d and pre pregnancy/bf I was a 36c.

We have had some travellers move into the village(they should be moved off by now) can you believe that the small children had the cheek to go up to the open windows of the Preschool and nick stuff of the shelves....when the staff were in plain view!!! . One of my braver members of staff went after them and was told to f**k off! By a 4 year old.

Like [[http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00005BQ4P/ref=mp_s_a_2?pi=SL75&qid=1347026876&sr=8-2 this] Wants?

at the 4 yo - how awful

Or even this

pomme, I had a non bottle baby with DD. I stopped bf in the day at 8.5 months as the little tike was too bossy and i was fed up, plus got mastitis twice. I tried all sorts to get her drinking milk, all unsuccessful (even cows milk, hv said to forget formula, it tastes too bad to an ebf baby by then if they're not initially keen they won't be), did smoothies, nesquik etc etc. Beakers not bottle, tried lots of beakers/ spouts. Hv said some babies just aren't 'milky' babies. I bf am and pm til nearly 15 months but that was the last time DD drank more than a couple of sips of milk to date. She's 2 on Sunday. I don't know whether I'm happy or sad..

Dh taken DD supermarket shopping, dm taken boys in buggy so got to make most of nap opportunity but loads I wanted to say!!!

Go nap quickly Dream

Crikey Peter Andre must have hit on hard times - he's just been on an advert for Gala Bingo

Better go and get the big biscuit back from pre-school.

Tough day not really today where I've spent the morning drinking tea with some friends and then been to buy a stairgate. Oh and ds2 napped from 10am -1pm (I was a bit at that bit).

Sorry, my earlier post to Dream ended up a bit out of sequence - think I must have been distracted by DS before posting it. Hope you manage a good nap, Dream .

Hope you managed a bit of sleep Dream

Pomme I have no ideas about the bottle vs boob thing. My usual answer to such things is cold turkey but I realise you probably don't fancy that.

DS was a little star having his blood test. No tears, tantrums or refusals. Just held out his arm and let them do it then said "Can I have my sweets now Mummy?" The nurses were well impressed.

Too I'm out tonight for food and drinks with a friend. I hope I manage better than last Friday. I went out with a different friend supposedly for a few drinks, managed 2 glasses of wine which went straight to my head and then had to drink water for the rest of the evening. I did stay out until 12.30 though which I thought was quite good especially as I'd stopped drinking by 9.30.

Biscuits have you read the Peter Andre threads on here? So funny.

He may have fallen on hard times but there is no doubting he loves his kids :o

Well done Scarlet's DS - he is such a brave boy! Hope the blood test shows what it is. Enjoy your night out - sounds lovely.

DH is out again here - he's always flipping out! Yet he was when I mentioned that one day he would probably have to put both ds's to bed if I ever went out. I had to point out that I probably put them to bed on my own about 5 nights out of 7.

Still, I guess I can do my ironing.....

biscuits the one I had was not as fancy and new fangled as that but basically the same idea feels like I raised my older children in the days of yore :)

Were the ones you had knitted Wants

Well done to your DS Scarlet - what a superstar.

Pomme hopefully DD2 will get better at drinking from a cup or beaker?

DS just had some apple purée and loved it but when he seemed to have had enough he burst into tears. Same thing happened yesterday when DH fed him - we thought it might have been because he wanted more but I don't think that was it today. I distracted him by going for a wander in the garden, and he cheered up (and did a couple of burps). Could it have been wind? Any ideas? I hope every meal doesn't end in tears!

Biscuits your day sounds lovely. I met some friends and we went to a place that does paint your own pottery. We all did Christmas baubles for grandparents with the babies' hand prints on. It would have been fun but DS got grumpy after his prints were done which made it hard for me to add the decoration I'd planned (some stars and a little message). Got them finished in the end but it was a bit stressful!

Pet, snap! M had apple puree too. Dog is currently cleaning the baby walker for me. Perhaps DS hasn't worked out quite how to say 'that's enough, thanks', as it were, so he feels like he has to cry to explain? I'm sure he'll get better at showing you he means no without crying.

I just don't think M is quite ready for BLW. I don't think she's lost her gag reflex. So I gave her bits of banana and strawberry at lunchtime to play with but fell back on puree for dinner. It went in this time!

Yay for Scarlet's DS - what a superstar.

Hope Dream had a good nap.

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