Dec 08 Mums - still biffing on

[LadyThompson]

Yes, yes, it's a bit lame. I wanted to say: "Still fucking on!" but wary of causing offence....

I know 'biffing' is a bit PG Wodehouse, as well. You'll just have to humour me

RT, I think the 2 names are completely different. Dorothea is lovely. I absolutely love Reuben but DH doesn't.

LadyT, don't be daft!! You are gorgeous!!

Thinking of you Beans. xx

Indith, any luck on the lion?

DS2 started nursery on Tuesday and has loved it so far. He's also going to bed and staying in bed rather than getting up 50 million times. So it must be tiring him out.

No luck on the lion :(

Every bed has been stripped, several times in some cases (thanks ds1) but nothing. All the toy boxes have been emptied out. I jsut don't understand where he is :( Poor dd. If anyone has a green manhatten toys lion hanging around unloved they'd sell me for less than the £25 demanded on ebay I promise I will worship and adore them forever.

LadyT congrats on weight loss. I'm bet you look fabulous, you always do in photos! The walking is great. So hard to find the right balance of exercise though isn't it? (says me having done next to nothing in recent weeks).

I feel your pain LadyT too on the fire thing. This time of year is an arse. Winter proper is great when it is on 24 hours a day and you have the loveliest toastiest house ever but I cannot be arsed to light it jsut for a couple of hours. It may go on today though, grey and rainy and there is stacks of washing to dry!

Trace Congrats on the run. Fab time!

So. Bed wetting. I may start a separate thread. I know it is a hormonal thing. I have said that many times to many people and assured them their child will do it in their own time and that it isn't a medical problem until at least 7. I know all that. Anyway ds1 is 5 and a half and he kicked the night nappies over the summer in his own time. His nappy was dry several days running so he decided he would go without and he was dry. He had one accident when he woke up but didn't quite get out of bed in time but otherwise dry. He was waking up at 6am often to go for a wee and then back to bed. This week he has wet the bed 4 nights in a row so far. I think he is just so shattered from school starting back that he is sleeping through it but that tiredness isn't going to go away. So clearly he is ready since he did it but now......

Any suggestions?

I feel like it would be unfair to put him back in nappies but I don't really know what else to do if he is just going to keep wetting. I have other bed linen to wash, clothes to wash, nappies. I can't actually have an entire set of bed stuff to wash every day on top of that I don't have the space to dry it all! We don't have a tumble drier.

Ds2 still evil at night. I'm sure I ticked the sleeper box when I ordered him. After dd I wasn't about to make that mistake again. He must be faulty.

Indith, I would say its defo a tired thing. DS2 wont wear nappies at night and some wks he will go for 7 straight dry nights some nights he wakes for a wee and goes back to bed other nights he can be wet by midnight. I just suck it up. Layer the bed sheets so the middle of the night wet ones get the top layer removed and the duvet flipped. But I do have a dryer making it much easier.

Trace super time on the GNR well done you!

Lady absoloute poppy cock you looked great last time I saw you.

Sybs belated happy birthday.

Awful night last night DS2 woke upset as he is stuffed full of cold, then I ended up in bed with him from midnight onwards. So now I am vvv tired and stiff.

Trace, that time is amazing. To put it into perspective we have a friend, a guy, who was running most days and did his first half marathon in 2hrs 15, so your time is brilliant I think.

Indith we still get both boys up at about 10pm to do a wee. DS2 will sometimes wet at 6am if he is really tired. I had the same thing at this age and my mum took me to a doctor and it was basically because I slept too deeply. They put me on a bed wetting alarm which had a loud alarm and a flashing light but I would only get woken by my entire family coming into the room annoyed because they had been woken up by the alarm. I spoke to a doctor here about it when DS1 had his developmental check up at 5.5 & she said the best way to deal with it is to get them up for a wee when you go to bed. This is contra to what I was told in the UK, but she said 10% of kids have it and its quite normal to do that. She said if they didn't grow out of it then we can address it later. I know I grew out of it. Initially they thought it was psychological because my father was very unwell with Cancer, but it just turned out to be deep sleep, plain & simple. I'm the same now, I never wake if the boys cry, its always DH who gets up to them.

Oh bloody Bugger, sorry Sybs, I forgot again. Happy Birthday. Ive been meaning to say it since the weekend. Did you have a nice day. What did you get up to? Any notable presents.

LadyT I have been searching for a link to the coat I bought DH but I can't find it. He is wearing it today so when he gets home I'll have a look at the name of it. He loves it, was really chuffed to bits with it. I have to say, parents like to brag about their kids talents, my DS1's talent seems to be choosing clothes. He spotted this coat, and even though I dragged them around loads of other (many cheaper) options. He would not budge on this one. He was right it suits DH perfectly. I have to admit, I have several pieces of clothing which have been recommended to me by him and they all look great. I think I quite like that I have a fashionable 7 year old. And no I'm not secretly hoping he is gay, so I don't have to compete with another women, no, not at all...

Jam Snap on the awful night -DD2 was poorly and woke up every 5 minutes until I took her to bed with me in the loft and she then spent the night snoozing on me. Nice for her, not very restful for me! am shattered today.

Trace Well done on 1/2 marathon!!! That's brilliant. My race number arrived in the post this morning so it's all very real here.. any tips? Did you take any gels/ sports drinks or anything during it?

RT I must say I'm not sure I'd want my daughter to be (this is character, not names!) either a Rosamund OR a Dorothea!! Was quite keen on it for DD2 but the character is SO awful that it put me off.

So a) I survived root canal - thanks very much for all the thoughts! Was pretty grim but hey, I'm alive...

b) I haev FINALLY responded to that letter from my sister. Hardly going to be the end of the issue as I've mentioned about the main issue being her taking 100k of money for herself, but hey, at least I finally stopped the denial and wrote the damn thing.

Today I am getting to grips with my sewing machine and making cushions. Hooray for cheap Ikea fabric.

Sorry for the grim nights. I feel your pain.

Thanks for the bedwetting talk. I agree it is jsut deep sleep. He has always slept really deeply and I guess he will grow out of it but it leaves me in a mess at the moment because without a drier I simply cannot get the laundry done. We layer the bed sheets and use bedwetter mats to try to keep it simple to change at night but stuff still gets wet. What do you do about duvets? I can't wash them every time but having been pissed on so much I guess I'm going to have to take them to a laundrette .

I might get some drynites or something a bit more "grown up" unless anyone knows of a cloth version that would work? Will hope that he agrees to wear them.

Oh and getting him up at night is something we used to do even when wearing nappies as he would wee so much he'd leak but he got too big to put on the potty, wee would go everywhere and it is a long, long way to the bathroom from his bedroom (downstairs, through the main house, through the extension, past the back door) so instead of a half asleep wee you get a half awake crying, distressed boy who needs to be calmed down and cuddled before you can try to get him to do a wee.

Indith Do you have hippychick mattress protectors? I think that is the name. J is asleep so I can't go and check. They are ace at stopping wee soaking through.

Have you space to get a dryer? L wasn't even a week old when we succumbed.

Both my brothers wet the bed (actually we didn't have a dryer them so mum must have cooed somehow) for years and years. They eventually stopped. Neither had a medical problem. I'm not sure that is reassuring or not, sorry!

RT I love Dorothea. Really pretty. I propose Rufus if you have a boy.

LadyT Thanks for the new name compliment! On the wider board I find people are unnecessarily rude and mocking of those with different opinions. It stifles debate.

Kiwi There is some lovely IKEA fabric at the moment. I need to trek to Warrington and get some. My mum has promised to make me new curtains.

Trace Well done on the time. Amazing!

Indith, we have mattress protectors from Asda. Brilliant things and not too expensive at £6.

£6? That's good. Shall investigate the Asda living. We do have waterproof mattress protectors but could do with a couple of spares. We tend to do waterproof protector, bedwetter mat, sheet, bedwetter mat, sheet so in theory I strip back one sheet and bedwetter mat and I'm not having to wash the waterproof one each time plus the bedwetters soak it up so stop it travelling up the bed and getting the pillow wet. Duvet always gets wet though and I don't have a big enough machine to wash it. I saw today on another thread someone saying they ditched the duvet and layered the bed up with fleece blankets instead because they dry really fast. I like that idea, I could probably manage fleece blankets plus a load of normal washing a day.

Indith I've just seen a thread in chat about bedwetting. It might be helpful.

Indith I was going to suggest a cheap kids duvet from ikea - DD1's is small and thin enough that it fits easily in washing machine

Indith we have the hippychick waterproofs and as it is lovely and soft we actually put it between DS2 & his sheet. However it sounds like he is releasing a lot of wee so not sure it would help. Do you have a sleeping bag, could you open it up and use it as a blanket for now. A sleeping bag would fit in the washing machine and take no time to dry.

Will await a reply from your sis with interest kiwi, was it an email or did you send by snail mail.

Indith, not sure if this makes it better or worse, but my nephew still sometimes wets his bed and he's 11. My sister has tried everything, but there is nothing medically wrong with him, he is just so busy and does so many sports that he sleeps incredibly heavily and doesn't even realise he's done it, poor chap.

RT, is it your DD who has broken her ankle? I saw a pic on FB. is she ok?

I made the most delicious chocolate and banana cake yesterday. Am trying not to eat it for breakfast....

How are you today lovely Beans? Still have a big bag of clothes for the girls. Let's catch up soon XXXXX

Ooh, lovely Sybs! I'll come to London sooooooon!

Have a great weekend everyone. We've got nothing in our diary! Bliss.

I'm just stopping in briefly..

This morning I asked L if J was ok as she was in their bedroom and it was suspiciously quietly. L replied 'mummy, she is having the time of her life'! It has been making me chuckle all.day.

Beans We have a free weekend too. Hurray!

That is v sweet Hons. I love when they come out with v adult phrases.

I have had a miserable last 36 hours ladies. On Thurs afternoon I started to feel nauseated for the 1st time. Arrived home after having to exist Tube twice for fresh air. As I opened the front door a sobbing DD2 was carried to greet me. Our nanny explained she'd fallen out of a tree hours earlier and hurt her leg. She had refused to put weight through it all pm but the nanny thought it was ok as she cld bend the knee and ankle and there was no swelling.

As DD2 sobbed in my arms & i surpressed nausea,DD1 announced that she'd left her (brand new) school shoes and skipping rope in the garden at 4pm and when she went to get them at 5pm the shoes had been stolen and the skipping rope snipped into 15 pieces and scattered where the shoes were left. WTF? The nanny confirmed that part if a trellis is broken where someone entered.

DH started his new job on Weds. It us in the City and he works much longer hours than before so he wasn't home yet. I knew DD2 needed an crayon but it was so late that I put her to bed hoping shed be ok. At 10pm she woke screaming in pain. DH took her to A&E while I stayed at home fretting abt her, feeling sick, and feeling terrified that psycho skipping rope cutter might return in the dark. At 3am the injured returned with a temporary cast over a broken leg. Never have I felt such a bad mum.

Yesterday I took her back to the hospital. Carrying her from dept to dept. She is so heavy that it gave my scary cramps around my uterus. After many hours of waiting the doc confirmed a spiral fracture to her tibia, put on a new (pink glitter) cast and forbade her from walking for 4 weeks. We rushed back to get DD1 from school where her teacher informed me she has nits. Then it started to rain on DD2's cast and I nearly dropped her running in the wet. She cried. I cried. Parents stared. DH did not get home til 8pm.

End of rant. I just had to get that all out!

Omg RT, I'm sorry to bestow this dubious honour, but that has to be the worst 24 hours in the life of any parent (except those who lose a child of course) you poor thing. I was a little annoyed that the staff didnt help you with carrying her, but I suppose it is more like what she wanted. And the skipping rope snipper, did you call the police, that is quite scary. Could have been an older child or was the Trellis hard to get through, so only an adult could do it. That sent a chill up my spine when I read that. Gosh RT I just can't believe what you have gone through. I hope you are able to rest today.

I'm jealous of those with no plans, DH has just run off to take DS1 to Chinese school then DS2 has a party at 2pm then DS1 has his swim demonstration & awarding of his B diploma in a town called Mönster, only about 10km away but it starts at 4.15 & DS2's party finishes at 4 so DH is taking him and I will have to miss the presentation & hang out for a bit with DS2. The party is at the sea life center at the main beach so at least we can hang out at the beach afterwards.

Oh RT you poor, poor thing. You definitely deserve some serious R&R after all that.

Dear RT, I am so sorry to read this. Sounds horrible and scary. I discovered Hedrin mousse last weekend for my nit riddled children. Works a treat and most nits wash out so no combing. Call police for skipping rope thing as that's weird and unpleasant. I am the mum who send my DD1 to preschool for a week with pneumonia so I am up there with you on the crap mum stakes. We all get it wrong from time to time. Can DD2 go in a buggy? Do you still have one - if not, I can drive my Techno over to yours as we don't need it any more.

I wish I were closer so I could pop over with a casserole and a huge bumch of for you. Take it easy and don't blame yourself. You are a fab mum.

Oh RT that is horrid. Poor DD2. How is she coping with her cast?

I would certainly ring the police about the shoes and skipping rope. It is really creepy.

I hope today is better for you.

Strewth RT - I was going to bitch about my yuk week, until I read your post...... Horrendous. Poor DD. Am very concerned (as others) about this skipping rope incident quite alarming. I 2nd ringing the police, but you need a proper telling off for saying you feel like a crap Mum!

Beans, hope you are hanging in there.

Sybs hope you had a lovely birthday! Mines on Tues but DH has a major assessment on Wed, so probably a quiet one, and to be honest, I'm not keen on celebrating the fact that I'm extremely late 30's now

DD got bitten at nursery yesterday she was fighting with someone over cordless drill hmm, she may well be her fathers daughter..... Apparently took ages to console - that said, she is a proper drama queen.

Both have been in nursery for 3 days this week as I had some training for work. MIL had them 2 days and I booked them in nursery the other 2. Also with early drop offs booked, so it has become a habit to wake early now and in waltzed dd at 0540 this morn Why do toddlers have no sense of appropriate volume levels at certain times of day? She was practically screaming she wanted Dora on the TV by 6am

We are off out to dinner at dh's bosses house tonight. Some rather lovely wine has been purchased to take. I am a little pleased about that
Quite glad to have another night off as dd has been a proper nightmare. Today, at ds's swimming lesson. In the change rooms trying to sort DS, and she kept running off into a toilet cubical and locking the door refusing to come out. Had to get ds to crawl under from the stall next door (charming) to unlock it for me, and the third time she was knee high in toilet paper - Not a word of a lie it was up around above her knees covering the whole stall, as they had back up rolls in there that she found

Right must post before I lose it on this....

Rubes sorry but that did make me snort.

RT bloody hell what a day of it you had. Liveing DD2s glitter cast very snazzy. But I would Defo get the police round about the skipping rope incident very worrying. What's DH doing in the city, is he no longer working in the HOfP?