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Dec 08 Mums - still biffing on

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LadyThompson · 11/07/2012 22:49

Yes, yes, it's a bit lame. I wanted to say: "Still fucking on!" but wary of causing offence....

I know 'biffing' is a bit PG Wodehouse, as well. You'll just have to humour me Grin

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VagolaJahooli · 17/08/2012 09:27

Oops forgot to say the month, we are coming in October.

JamInMyWellies · 17/08/2012 09:32

Indith thanks for that, eating my breakfast when I got to your poo post.

Kiwi, I would find it difficult not to say something to her when you meet. It would be especially hard as you have not responded to her letter.

HAppy Birthday big boy VAG!

Am knackered these boys are going to have me on my knees before the holidays are over. Loving them but knackered.

traceface · 17/08/2012 12:53

vag I will try to meet up with you when you're in the north :)

Ok so here's my cheeky plug for my sponsorsip page for the Great North Run...

uk.virginmoneygiving.com/TraceyRuddle

but please don't feel you have to!

Back later xxx

Indith · 17/08/2012 13:14

You are most welcome Jam Grin.

Vag will be great if we can sort a meet up.

Trace I've a bit of a no sponsorship policy (we budget everything) however you'll be pleased we already have a monthly direct debit for them :)

Is it still against the law to murder your children? Just come back to this post after breaking off to clean up another carpet ingrained all over legs and hands and feet poo. Think I need to make time this weekend to get the Vax out.

McKayz · 17/08/2012 13:16

Vag, I will try and meet up with you. DH is away then so am limited to bus and train but will certainly try.

Trace, will sponsor you on payday!

Obergene · 17/08/2012 13:37

Hey Ladies,

We are back from our lovely holiday in the USA. It was so fab: meeting old friends, watching the girls be flower girls at a stunning wedding, whale watching, hanging out on deserted beaches, exploring mountains in Yosemite (both girls managed daily 5k hikes in 30+ degrees!). All great really although the last 48 hours of plane journeys and jet lag has bought me down with a bit of a bump.

Veg - happy Birthday to AK! He shares DD1's birthday as you know although she is 6 today. We are about to go for a picnic in the park and I have baked some Hello Kitty cupcakes. When asked what she wanted for presents she said "breast feeding animals". Er, ok. Amazingly I found this it has magnetic nipples!

Trace, I will sponser you, how is the training going? And good luck with the move.

Indith - yuk, yuk, yuk to the poo. I actually think murder may be justified in the circs!

Jolly - how did your DD2 age so quickly? Wow!

Any progress from those of you going for number 3: Beans, Jam and maybe Lady (and others)? DH and I were sharing rooms with the DDs throughout most of our trip which rather hindered our efforts!

spotofcheerfulness · 17/08/2012 14:36

Wow, that holiday sounds amazing, Obes, am proper Envy. Sympathies for the being back here malarkey, though hope that the weather is at least somehow compensating. That is a quality toy as well. Does it mean that you can attach anything to the magnets though? I know my two would find it hilarious to find various metal objects to feed from the dog...

Vag, happy birthday DS1! Hope he had a lovely day. You certainly don't look old enough to have a seven year old

Indith that poo sounds like such a nightmare. Your poor, poor thing. Sad.

T has gone off to London with DP today for his first trip to the smoke since he left at 9 months. I am hoping they return...

My Granny Murray thread is somehow still going. I realise I have now committed myself to watching it every morning for the forseeable. Should have through it through before posting...

Oh, and Kiwi, did you get any advice on the early waking lark from anyone? it's still bonkers early here too, and both of them - only bonus is that we can put them to bed for 7 now, where it used to be 9.

B is being adorable in start contrast to T at the moment. He has the odd rage, but is otherwise just the most angelic child. I wish I could pickle him right now

Indith · 17/08/2012 15:22

2 more poo incidents since the last post. 2!

I just don't understand it. She just keep shitting then sitting in it oblivious. But she can't be oblivious. And it is perfectly normal poo, no signs of anything dodgy going on. Not loose, not liquidy bits of overflow that would signal constipation. Just normal poo. Lots of it. All over my fucking house.

Trying to give as little attention as possible and will go completely over the top with praise should she finally go on the loo.

Any ideas? Seriously. Anything.

I'm considering giving her some fybogel for a few days if I can get it down her to bulk it up and hopefully amplify the signals that she needs to go? Just soemthing to try to break the pattern.

sybilfaulty · 17/08/2012 18:46

Indith, I wouldn't do fybogel as it might have the opposite effect of softening and bulking, so it would slip out more easily (and there might be more of it!). I debated with M not giving him much f and V so that it would be harder to pass and he'd know but I didn't in the end. He just grew out of it and (bar a tummy upset) hasn't missed for 2 months. He did poo in his pants for 6 whole months though so I share your sadness. Can you pop her back in a nappy for a few weeks then have another go? With hindsight, I wish I'd done that.

Off to IOW tomorrow. WIll try to read on phone or Ipad if there is WIfi. Have a good week.

Indith · 18/08/2012 08:52

I can't put her back in a nappy, she hasn't been in one for around a year and a half!

Ho hum. We'll see. I think I thought of fybogel because that is what worked for ds1 to amplify the sensation of needing a poo. He had completely different medical issues though. Dd is just being a stubborn little creature. Yesterday's tally was 2 on living room carpet. 1 on the sofa and 1 on the stairs. Then one on the toilet!

VagolaJahooli · 18/08/2012 13:55

Indith aside from the bloody annoying locations of the expolsion of the poo, that does seem like a lot of faeces. What is she eating?

Had a lovely evening at the beach for DS1's birthday last night, then this morning met a bunch of his friends and their families for brunch at a beach bar that does the best breaky in the world. Have just got back after lots of chatting, kids playing & lots of swimming all round. The water is amazingly nice at the moment. If this is global warming I'm up for it.

Indith · 18/08/2012 14:27

She always has done a lot of poo. None so far today thankfully Grin. She has a perfectly normal pretty balanced diet. Lots of fruit and veg, lots of pasta, lentils and other pulses, bit of meat. Mushrooms. Lots of mushrooms. Often raw at the checkout because she can't wait to eat them.

Just spent the morning in Ikea. A nice man in a van will be bringing us dd's new wardrobe for separating the dcs into bedrooms, a new sofabed for the new guest bedroom/office, some blanket boxes for throwing outgrown clothes to wait for ds2 to grow into and other assorted loft related crap and more Trofast storgae than you can shake a stick at. Amongst other things. By the time we got over the £600 mark I lost the plot. Hotdogs and chips for lunch at the checkouts Grin.

VagolaJahooli · 18/08/2012 18:03

What a brilliant diet she has. DS2 loves mushrooms too and be quite forceful when he wants a raw one.

ZuleikaJambiere · 18/08/2012 23:18

Hello ladies, I am so long overdue a catch up it is embarrassing - I've scrolled through for my last post and it was on the 1st! I have been lurking though. Someone down the road is having a BBQ/party (they do every summer) and this year they've got a live band in their garden, they're pretty good and playing a good set of songs, so we've opened our windows and I'm enjoying the vibe while I type

Firstly happy birthdays to all the big girls and boys this week - Vag boy and Deids and Obes girls. And good news on some successful potty training going on too, hooray! Oh, and little Jolly is walking, so lovely. And welcome back from your hols Obes and Jam Envy

I am very happy to read of so many others hitting the 'terrible threes', I'm pretty convinced it's a whole lot worse than the terrible twos, not least because DD has the verbal skills to argue, talk back, negotiate etc etc, whereas when she was younger it was obvious that the main cause of it was frustration at not being able to communicate and articulate as well as she wanted. We regularly get 'it's not fair', 'it's all your fault Mum', flounce, strop, flounce. I often have to check the calendar and remind myself that she is 3 and a half, not 13 and a half. But, saying that, when she's on good form she is adorable and great company. Isn't there a poem or nursery rhyme that went 'when she was good she was very, very good, but when she was bad, she was awful'? That was written about DD. Adding my two penn'orth (a bit late) into the smacking discussion, which I found very interesting read some honest opinions on (rather than the wondermum versions on the rest of MN). I have never smacked the girls, but it's not because I'm against it. I was smacked as a child, only a couple of times, and hell, I learnt my lesson. I vividly remember Mum sending me to her room and making me wait there for 5 minutes before coming to smack me. I see now that it was a time out for her, so that she wasn't smacking me in a fit of rage, but controlled and with a clear 'I am going to do this because ...'. If I do smack DD, I want it to have the same very clear message my Mum gave me. That's not to say I haven't felt the rage and wanted to hurt her, as I have felt it too many times. There is one episode that still makes me feel terrible, I'd asked DD to go to the loo before bed and she refused and was pissing around and playing for time and making me crosser and crosser. I'd done the cajoling, threatening no stories, counting, shouting and in the end I picked her up and plonked her on the loo and held her so tight that she couldn't move. She was wriggling and I was digging my fingers into her ribs. And poor DD1 was crying and saying 'it's hurts, you're hurting me' and I yelled in her face that if she sat still and did as I asked I wouldn't have to hold her so tight. The next day I read on MN that apparently bruising to the ribs and torso, where I was holding DD1, is often a sign of abuse. DD hadn't bruised, but I still weep to think that I'm an abuser. I know that is silly and I'm not, but I love my girls and would kill anyone who tried to hurt them, so why does it happen that I can be pushed so far myself? But we all get pushed, and I'm just pleased you've all been so honest to talk about being in the same boat Sad

Have you made moves with your sister yet Kiwi? And talking of sisters, did you get a response from yours Beans? Are you still leaving DH to deal with DD2 at night, or has he conceded that the sleep trainer might be right?

Indith I hear ya with the hair loss, mine is horrific at the moment. I'm so grateful that I, ahem, still have SPD and so can't cancel the cleaner yet, she's wonder woman with the hoover! No advice on your DDs pooing, but could it be attention seeking? DD1 still randomly wets herself or plays up or does something ridiculous when I'm in the middle of feeding or changing DD2, and will admit she was just bored and wanted my attention

Good luck with the move Trace, and yes, I'll sponsor you (and if I forget then come and give my knuckles a rap)

Spot I saw T's comment about Rhyme Rocket on fb, DD loves it and often tries to find rhyming words, with varying levels of success 'Do tree and wee rhyme? Do cheese and knees rhyme? Does apple and apple juice rhyme?' Last week I let out a very un- ladylike burp, which DD followed immediately with a huge fart and 'Mummy, we rhyme, burp and trump rhyme' Grin. BTW, I'm half way through your book, I will get the rest printed off and will come back soon to you if I have anything to say

Vag we may not be around when you come to the NE (in the middle of planning to take the ILs away that weekend for their ruby wedding anniversary), but if it doesn't happen (the actual date is still under discussion), then I will definitely come to see you while you're here

DD2 reached 6 months this week - I can't believe how quickly time is flying by. She is tucking into her food like you wouldn't believe and but BLW is proving too good at improving her pincer grip and the little madam has taken to nipping my bingo wings when I feed her. Ouch. She's also sitting up already, but has no desire to actually move anywhere, she did roll onto her tummy once, 6 weeks or so ago, but clearly decided it wasn't all that as she hasn't attempted it since. She is destined to be a people watcher and not miss a single thing that goes on around her

Indith · 19/08/2012 09:20

There was a little girl
Who had a little curl
Right in the middle of her forehead
And when she was good she was very very good
But when she was bad she was horrid

[Grin]

Good to see you ZJ! :) at the BLW. Ds2 is 24 weeks tomorrow and he is starting to fight for the chance to get stuck in! He is starting to sit unsupported and is getting into everything. I need to dig out the old antilop in preparation :).

I realise I made dd's diet out to be absolutely amazing. I would like to point out she also gobbles a biscuit or something most days, manages to wrangle far too much chocolate out of her dear darling daddy by putting her pouty face on and yesterday we had hotdogs and chips for lunch Grin.

You are most likely right ZJ that it is attention seeking. It has always been that way in the past. When ds1 was having a particularly bad patch dd would join in. So she is probably attention seeking. There is an element of not wanting to stop whatever she is doing too. I think I just freak out about it. Obviously I hate cleaning up the shit but I also freak out because I don't want her to have problems like ds1 and at the moment I can see her starting to withold. Probably because I have ballsed up in tryint to deal with all the smearing it everywhere. Yesterday she did 2 or 3 tiny bits in pants but the main event never came. This morning we have had a tiny bit in pants too. If she goes on too long like that then she will end up constipated. I keep telling her the poo has to come out and go to pooland etc, we are rather well rehearsed at all these stories.

What is it with my children and poo? She was absolutely fine until a few days ago. She always had some accidents I suppose, she lives with her head inteh clouds so every couple of days you'd get a couple of pairs of skidmarked pants before she went to the loo because she didn't pay attention or didn't want to interrupt her game but that is normal for a 3 year old.

See? Now I'm overthinking it and freaking out again.

Tell you what, instead of me freaking out why don't you lot go and find me a phone? You know I know nothing of smart phones and the like. I want something on 02 or that piggybacks 02 like Tesco does because that is the only one I can reliably get in my house. I don't want to pay more than £10 a month to that has to include minutes, texts and data. I want to be able to use wifi in hotspots. I want a decent camera to take photos of the kids because I never remember to take our camera with us and anyway it is so old most phone cameras are probably better. I want to be able to have a basic GPS (I assume you get apps for such things?) to go geocaching locally with the kids) since I gave up on getting a running watch due to running trying to turn me inside out. I look on the Tesco mobile site and it has phones but I have no idea about the differences between them, what opperating systems do what, what ones have the choice of apps etc. I live in the dark ages.

Indith · 19/08/2012 11:07

Quite exciting though, yesterday at Ika we got this for the dcs for Christmas :) Managed to slip it in without them noticing! £17 between the 3 of them. Bargain Grin. Means I can have a bit of fun with stockings rather than sticking to £5 each. I have the Lego ideas book for ds1 so that will go for his birthday plus a watch. Might get dd a my little pony or 2 for her birthday. Then a breathing space before ds2's birthday! Box of tissues for him?

KiwiPanda · 20/08/2012 06:59

Oh bugger Indith I've been fighting an inexplicable urge to go to Ikea for weeks and now you post that... Grin may have to visit today. I love their art stuff too (rolls of paper etc) and DD1 needs a spare duvet cover - and I'm decorating the kids rooms soon.. Hmmmmm

DD2 up at 5.30. Which is now a lie in for her. Oh joy. I spent way too much time listening to Farming Today..

Haven't yet replied to my sister but will in my own time. Also had another horrible letter (post is totally overrated) from my work. They have rejected my application to work ONE DAY a week from home. Woman who I spoke to about it (my line manager) didn't even have balls to ring me but sent the letter. That's my company - preach one thing - editorials about family flexibility and importance of supporting working mums and then they do stuff like this. It's unbelievable. Need to get out ASAP.

KiwiPanda · 20/08/2012 07:01

Ps Indith Poundland is brilliant for sticking fillers (colouring in books, pens etc) and are you anywhere near a Tiger store because they have fantastic value stuff - prices £1/2 but looks way more classy Grin

Indith · 20/08/2012 09:07

My problem with poundland is I go round flinging things in a basket because it is only £1 and then get surprised when it adds up to £20 Grin. I have heard there is a place in town doing wind up toys etc (think they have got old HAwkins stock, they are in the old Hawkins shop) at 50p each with a BOGOF offer so I need to get in without children! Need shoes too so next week when dh is off I'm going shopping.

Indith · 20/08/2012 09:07

Shit about work :(

JamInMyWellies · 20/08/2012 09:28

God are the holidays nearly over yet? DS2 is very whingy today and has been pants a sleeping all wkend culminating in him coming in to me at 5 yesterday drinking a pint of water then falling asleep in my bed then peeing all over me an hr later. Lovely!

Obes your holiday sounded amazing.

Indith I love that tent I do have to make an ikea trip soon that might be going in my basket.

As far as Hawkins bizarre I think they are still trading online. MIght be wrong though often am. Grin

Right really need to do something about this kitchen its minging.

McKayz · 20/08/2012 09:40

Indith, Hawkins are still trading. The York shop is still open.

I also need that tent, it's so cool!!

Indith · 20/08/2012 09:44

Really? The York Shop is still trading? Where is it?

I thought the whole thing went bust! Did they manage to salvage some then. I love Hawkins, I was gutten when ours closed. It ahppened all of a sudden in a gone bust kind of way with piles of stock still in the shop :(

McKayz · 20/08/2012 09:48

There are about 8 or 10 shops left. The York one is on High Ousegate, about 5 minutes from Jorvick centre. It's in the city centre.

Indith · 20/08/2012 09:53

Ace. Thanks Kayz.