Dec 08 Mums - still biffing on

[LadyThompson]

Yes, yes, it's a bit lame. I wanted to say: "Still fucking on!" but wary of causing offence....

I know 'biffing' is a bit PG Wodehouse, as well. You'll just have to humour me

PS for "norms", read "norks", Kiwi!!

Do any husbands anywhere in the world rinse their body hair out of the bath after use??

Mine dows now beans but only after massive bit of a rant about it! Sorry to read about your Dad a while back.
Can't remember everything as had to skim but will read back properley later. Apols.
Baby bjorner here too Kayz sorry.
Vag! Didn't Know you were meeting up another day! Could have made it- Bugger.
Lady I'm much better thanks ) days of the drops again and was ok. How are you though? Still haven't decided what we will do for time off!
Am trying to swap work days so might be away the 13th and after that will be out for the month. Will let you know though if it turns out I'm around r

No but then the entire of our house is covered in my hair doing th post natal fall out thing.

Urgh sorry many typos and hasty phone post cut off
Ps kiwi you are addicted to twitter - making up 95% of my tweets! How do you spend that much time there! How's the running? Think I'm officially giving it in for swimming or something low impact since another friend has had big knee problems and practically immobile now
Must go and speak to dh. Ds sent home from nursery with high temp and has just taken himself to bed :( not ideal as he's off to nursery for the morn and dh already pulled from work early to get them :(

Sorry to hear about the mastitis, Kiwi, how is it now? It's so funny how the different media platform influences the topic of conversation. (Twitter: journalism. Olympics. Facebook: Photos. MN: Tits)

Back from my weekend camping last night with a mega hangover. Had a really lovely time (and made even better because one of my friends works for a mag about hotels and got us an afternoon at a local spa free!). Not quite as much sleep as I might have liked (thanks to wild ponies trying to enter tent in the middle of night) but still just lovely to have some time away and hang out with my mates. T was at my mum's and had a whale of a time. B didn't appear to miss me at all. Apparently the one time DP thought he said "mummy", he actually said, "dummy". .

Beans, you've broken the back of the holidays, keep it up! Why not come to sunny Brighton (or near enough) one day if you're short of things to do? Seriously.

Poor DS, Rubes, hope it's just an overnight thing. . am well of your FBook pix.

Soooo

Spot I am going to read and feedback I promise, just failing to find quiet time to concentrate! I feel you rpelvic floor pain too. Still hoping lots aond lots of exercises will help. I've been working on my posture too to generlaly counter the effects of pregnancy on posture which helps to draw the muscles in. In theory anyway! Not braved another run since hte one that made me feel like I was turning inside out.

MoM hello!

Kiwi your sister is odd. How is the boob? Hope that you survive the remainder of the olympics. Friend of mines fiance is working the olympics but she doesn't have kids to put up with while he is away!

Vag glad Saudi went well, all the best. Glad you've had a good holiday back here. Do let us know if you will be venturing to Hull, plenty of good easy to get to places for meeting up with small ones in tow.

Kayz glad Christening went well.

Beans thinking of ou and your dad, I hope things go ok with the new tumours and you all enjoy every moemnt you have together. Enjoy the non grwoing feet while the last. I shelled out £68 yesterday for school shoes and casual shoes for ds with his stupid wide feet that make buying supermarket cheapies impossible and she is coming back next week for me to hand over another £35 ish for dd as she has stupid shallow feet and she only had one pair the fitted her wll but they were pink so she's ordering more styles and coming back. Bloody love the shoe woman though, I;d be tearing my hair out if I had to go to and from shops trying to get the right fittings for them.

Beans I confess I took my dcs round to play with an infected child, mainly because I've never had it and we were going to ttc and I didn't want the risk of them getting it while I was pg. I think I was probably a bit irrational. I'm still not sure about it . There will always be the odd child who does get complications, but then how do you know they wouldn't have the same if they got it "naturally"? I don't know. Have you had it though? Would you run the risk of passing it on to your dad?

Indith - that's my worry re pox and Dad, but am not due to see him til 20th August. But if one has delayed appearance, that would be a problem. I think I'll give it a miss! Thank you!
Sorry to only reply to that one post! Sausages, mash and peas calling...

X

Up to 3 weeks incubation so ....

Hello all. Thanks for inquiries after my boob - much better though DD2 behaving very oddly on that side so proving a little difficult to keep her feeding on it lots (my winces of agony when she does probably don't help). But now I have a horrible tight cough, one of those ones that hurts when you cough, and am losing my voice. And still have intermittent temperature. It's never bloody endless. So I haven't run since last Thursday and can't think when I will again SOB

Anyway yes I am indeed addicted to twitter Rubs! Given that I don't have much adult conversation at the moment it's about as close as I get... I do love it though. You need to follow more people so my tweets disappear ;)

Beans If your dad has had it, he should be fine shouldn't he, or does a very weakend immune system mean he could get it again? He certainly can't get shingles from it, as some people worry about.

Done my tenth solo bedtime in a row, but a rare treat - DH was doing cycling which finishes earlyish so is now home! At least I assume it's him. There's a man with keys to my house sitting on the sofa eating pasta and he looks like he feels at home, so I can only assume it's DH. I'll check his byline photo just to be sure

(Oh and haven't done anything about sister's letter yet. Except refuse to think about it until I feel better)

Do you think we love the Olympics so much because we get to sit on the couch watching Tele all day, with the excuse that we are being supportive of our girls & boy sports stars? Oh I did bawl when that man from the Dominican republic got his gold medal.

Sybs I mainly get out, cos if I stay in I will end up letting the kids watch Tele all day.

Sorry Rubs, I changed it because I thought it was easier for Lady, and hasn't had much feedback on the Tuesday, but actually it was quite difficult to find time this trip, esp with DH having to trip off to Saudi. Also, I should have maybe organised VIA FB as I had trouble getting into here often enough.

Indith we are thinking of coming over during DS1's half term break so will keep you posted. We may or may not have a car, but can do trains so will find a nice spot to meet up. When is Trace's GNR?

DH starts a new contract in Amsterdam tomorrow, my charmed life with DH working from home is over, but will be nice knowing what time he leaves & arrives home everyday, the boys will know when he is home, it's play time.

Kayz I agree with Indith look on youtube. I actually got good ideas for making slings from YouTube.

Sorry your feeling so crap kiwi, will you be getting a little treat in the form of a weekend away when he is finished? Can you get a sitter in or a friend to come over to watch the girls so you can have a long lie down. I should have stayed for 2 weeks, I could have come over to watch the girls & I could have visited Spot. It is amazing how fast a week gets used up. Was lovely seeing friends, though the LOs are a bit forlorn today as they miss the friends we were staying with already. I went past Customs house & remembered that brilliant evening last time I was over.

We had a nice trip home, we were a little late getting the train from Liverpool street so had to catch the 9pm train to Harwich. DS1 fell asleep in the taxi last night to LPS & didn't wake until we woke him as we pulled into Hoek Van Holland this morning at 7.45!

Right I'm rambling now, and can't remember what else I wanted to say. Tired.

Oh dear did I break the thread with my ramblings?

Hello! Am still here. Just gone into hiding. Hope everyone ok?

I'm OK thank you darling . Hope you are doing ok too. Thinking of you angel.

We are on a swimming marathon this week. It's every day for half an hour but the whole palaver takes nearly 2. I am channelling Paul McCartney with all the thumbs up and gurning at my nervous daughters as they reluctantly jump in or make a starfish. Ah me. Takes me back to the swimming pool at Stratford with a horrible instructor pushing my head under the water as my horrified mother looked on. That was 35 years ago and still a really clear memory. Argh.

Hope your back is better, my lovely Spot.

Have fun y'all.

Sybil, my two are doing swimming too this week. At least I don't have a third to get changed! Two is hard enough. Think I've lost weight in the form of sweat too! At our leisure centre the "best" swimming teacher is very scary and likes to throw pupils in and dunk them. The reception lady could not believe that I didn't want scary teacher for DD. "But everyone wants X", she said. "Well I don't thank, you" was my reply. I don't want DD to have to go through that kind of experience. As you point out, you still remember it vividly 35 years on!

Hope the rain clears up so we can get out to the park. Or we might have to do some baking. Mmm cake ....

I'm about sort of. I'm at PILs near Bristol. Having a holiday. Going to see the hot air balloons on Friday. The boys are very excited.

As if my hair wasn't falling out enough already I was tearing it out this afternoon.

Ds2 has developed a bit of mild excema, easy enough to keep under control at the moemnt but I thought I'd pop into baby clinic and pick up a prescription rather than pay for more cream. An hour and a fucking half later we emerged. An hour and a half of boiling hot waiting room and ds1 and dd going mental. ThenI still needed to post a parcel of some experimental ebaying (Frugi dungarees that went for 99 bloody pence) except I forgot the parcel at home so that will have to be done tomorrow then over to another village to drop bags of clothes at the charity shop (because I can't be arsed to ebay for 99 bloody pence) but the bloody charity shop was closed even though the opening hours inthe window clearly stated it should be open then over the Lidl for the shopping then home again to a slightly panicked dh because he didn't know where I was and needed the car to go rowing which I knew perfectly well and was in time for but still got an "I didn't know where you were!". Humph. I never tell him when I'm going out because when he is working he is at work and I treat it as though he isn't there.

Gosh Indith I'm exhausted a slightly frustrated just reading that. Blimey your DH is going to get a shock when you start Uni and he has to make some allowances for your time.

Beans my lovely how are you?

Kayz balloons sound fun.

Sybs how was the pool today? What is it about swimming teachers that they must be so mean. I remember being made to swim across the deep end for the first time. All the kids made it across easily except an intellectually disabled kid & me. I remember crying the whole way across. It did me know harm, but it was completely unnecessary, & to make matters worse she joined in with the kids who had gotten across in taunting me & the special needs kid. DS1's current teacher is a little scary, she gets the kids to float around the pool on their backs & splashes them in the face. I have no idea why. Though to be fair she gets results. DS1 improves noticeably by the week.

When I was at Liverpool street station on Sundays waiting for our train to Harwich I found a Bootcamp magazine special, it is an one of special of a magazine called Women's fitness. It is brilliant and gives several different options for a bootcamp program, from a weekend option right up to a one month plan. It includes a very strict diet that works with the exercise program. It has recipes & menus for each day. I've started on the one month program but I'm being a little less strict as I'm having coffee and some dairy. But so far I've not had any carbs as per the diet & I'm quite enjoying the food. I think it helps that the kids are on holidays so have time to make the food rather than rushing off for school drop off. Will see if it gets results.

Hi all. Wow, swimming sounds fairly full on!
I'm just cooking supper for DH. And finding holidays fairly full on. Girls gorgeous as ever, but demanding and I find I'm desperate for alcohol by about 5pm!!dh clearly thinks I'm having a whale of a time as am seeing lots of people. And it is lovely, but it's also to stop me from murdering the beautiful whinge-bags! And it's tiring trying to fill a day innit??
Never mind!

Sybs, glad you're managing to keep smiling. You are a wonder.

Dad's doing ok. He is in a lot of pain, but being upbeat throughout. I hope i can be as positive as him when I'm dying. I love him so.

Sorry, dreary!

Must go and finish my marinated pork fillet!! Impressive eh? X

Beans You are doing so well. I would struggle to hold it together with all you are going through with your dad and having girls full time at the mo and all the rest. I'm not surprised you feel like a glass of wine at 5 - have one!!

Indith I can match your disastrous day with a disastrous night. Just about to go to bed, when DD1 wakes up howling having POOED all over herself, the bed, somehow rubbed it into her hair etc etc. Throw her in bath, howling away, clean up, change bed blah blah. takes forever to get back to sleep.

Go to bed. Car alarm opposite starts going off. REALLY LOUDLY. does not stop for 2 hours. Stops, finally start drifting off. DD2 wakes up.

AGHHHHHH

Oh and as my mastitis cleared up, I got a chest infection. I am a big, human shaped bag of germs. Need to put up one of those MISSING: HAVE YOU SEEN..? Posters for my immune system.

Urgh Kiwi hope you feel better soon. I was off and on sick for a month and it felt like forever with kids to look after. You are right. I need some more twitterees to follow!
Have had ds with high temp then better then dd throwing up tues night then dd better and da throwing up last night. Both ok today - really odd short duration vomity thing!
Have hardly seen dh's rellies at all except for 2 days in Dorset and they go home Sunday. Gutted. Dorset was lovely bur short snd many a story including ds streaking through the pub full of diners carrying his pjs announcing hed done a poo but cant put his pants back on - all whilw we thought he was sleeping soundly in the room above! Managed to piss off sil again yoo i think - God im a bees dick away from saying how i really feel!
Think mil is pissed as she asked dh if he wanted help with kids at weekend when I was away but he didn't reply.
Lady hope you had a nice time at ur mums. Think I'm around Monday but dh needs me to do some admin stuff for him as he's behind and wants to catch up a bit before we go away (which we still haven't decided on where yet!)
Vag Nevermind I'm sure there will be other times when not so busy. Glad you had a nice time.
Beans. Good job for staying strong. You are clearly your fathers daughter. Must be so tough.

Had to post before losing it but now can't remember other stuff.
Oh yes JJ hope you worked out that dilemma. I must admit I'm not against abortion. Not had one myself but friends have at young ages and I think it's better to not make a human if your not equipped to raise it. Sometimes genuine accidents happen and all that, but I respect everyone's individual beliefs. Thought a GP was not able to not refer though?
Indith hope your days have improved and Hi to all including Sybs! When are we ever going to catch up!?
Better post again as on phone and dodgy!

Just been to see doctor. Never mind illness, he was HOT!! Honestly was rather disconcerting. There was me, DD2 crawling up my arm, sweaty, dishevelled etc.. Bah

Kiwi the hotest doctor I have ever seen was doing my pap smear. Disconcerting indeed.

Rubes, tell us more about your SIL, pwease. Is MiL cross with you or DH? That story about DS made me spit my tea. So so funny. Rubes I think you would like the diet & exercise thing I'm doing.

Hee hee. Smears are so rank. A friend of mine's sister sprayed anti-smell fanny spray on before her smear and when the doctor told her it was kind of her to make an effort, turned out it was glitter spray. Genius. I think I've told you guys that before, hence the shortness of story!

Are you feeling better, Kiwi? Poor lamb. Night from hell.

Right, get ready for a furious rant from me and feel free to skip it!!! FAmily politics!

I have written but not sent a vile email to my sister. Until I've calmed down. She of alcoholic husband and selfishness. Xmas in 4 months or so, they have spent it in France for last 20 years, apart from when she was about to give birth, so they had to stay over here. Never make the effort to come over here to spend it with M&D. In fact, mum and dad have been over there 3 times, despite mum's arthritis being really bad in the cold. Anyway, as this is possibly/probably Dad's last Xmas (sorry if seems cold, have to be a bit clinical to keep together!), she is deigning to make an appearance. She rang tonight to say that she is "assuming" me and my other sister, who lives in Peterborough, will be doing a day trip for Xmas day, so she thought she would fly into Gatwick on Xmas Eve, spend the night with my parents and fly out on Xmas day. WHY would she get to stay with them? Mum is so very tired and will only be tireder. My sister's children are vile and hard work. She seems to think she has some kind of RIGHT to stay with my parents because of her "schlep" from France. I want to kill her. Sort of. I have composed this email, but I know I won't send it because I'm not brave enough like that:

Since our phone call, I have been wondering why it has left me with such a sour taste in my mouth and feeling so utterly furious with you and I think I know why.

Since you have been holidaying in France, the only times you have bothered to make the effort to come to Offham is when it has suited you - ie. pregnant with DD and I think you may have come just after you had DS, but I can't remember, I suspect not.

This year may be Dad's last and you seem to expect to have special treatment because of your "schlep" from France. DSis, I am so angry, I can hardly write this without screaming. You "assume" that Dsis2 and I will do the trip in a day. Why? Because it suits you that we should? If you're in the UK anyway the night before, then your flat in London is closer to Mum and Dad than either Beans's house or Dsis2's house. Why on earth should the one of us who has made the least effort to spend Christmas with our parents for the last 20 years suddenly gain some kind of right to spend more time in Mum and Dad's house, simply because you're travelling further. Hire a fucking car for a few days.

If you "assume" that we are selfless enough to do the travelling in one day, then you can bloody well do the same. You may think you can do it without leaving a footprint, but you can't. It will be tiring for our parents. I think I can speak on behalf of DSis2 on this too, although I haven't spoken to her about it, but we would also love to spend a night in with M&D around Christmas, but we probably won't as we are aware of Mum and Dad's needs.

This is NOT about you booking your flights and how much it will cost you to do it or change them. This is NOT about whether it's easy for you to make the journey or not. If it's that important to you, don't go to France at all, stay in the UK! Make that effort to see Dad and go on day trips to see him regularly, for a few hours at a time, even if it is a bit inconvenient for you and Andrew. This is about DAD and Mum.

My advice to you would be to look into flights from Geneva to Heathrow, stay in your flat for however long you need and, like DSis2 and me, do a daytrip to M&D on Christmas Day. Then you can fly back from Gatwick direct from M&D if you want to, or alternatively, return to London and fly back to France from Heathrow. That way, you aren't imposing on Mum and Dad at all. Seriously. Do think about it.

Wow, it's quite long. And quite fun to have written, but I'll never send it!!!!

Right, rant over! This should be "Beans's personal vitriol page!" Angry me or what? Obviously a few name and place changes to make it scan a little less well, but you get the jist! Sorry chaps!

xx