October 2011, the three C's crawling cruising and chatting

[LittlePebble]

Thanks Mama for the title. A new thread hopefully everyone will find us again.

Sassy, I've lowered it so she can't fall out and can sit herself back down but she needs to sleep now or will end up napping later then not going to bed till late tonight. She will stand there all day if Ieft to it.
Think it's just been a bad day. With my parents away, I've had to tend to my (almost blind) gran. Half way round Sainsburys with me pushing trolly and her pushing S in buggy, S starts to have a melt down as she is tired/hungry/needs nappy changed. I felt like I needed to split myself into 10 pieces just to get everything done . Just could've done without it all. Shopping is all still in the car, frozen stuff will be defrosted now, the huge washing I put out to dry earlier is now soaked as it decided to rain . But I'm not gonna moan about it
ips sorry can't offer much. You must have the weight of the world on your shoulders right now. Glad you have time off work. Feel free to vent here whenever you need to

fuzzzy just wanted to say I think your amazing you do so much and I know I'd struggle without DH around and yet you take it all in your stride. (sorry if that's come out wrong its meant in a good way)
As far as S and her nap goes will she nap on your lap or somewhere other than her cot?

Thanks strawberry. I can't have her on me just now cos she just keeps scratching/grabbing my neck/arms/anything then pulling my hair and it's just making me more angry with her. I've already shouted and I don't want to again. My back is to sore right now to carry buggy up from the car. I'm layin in bed with her now. She is so tired but just won't give in. I look forwards to these naps as I get just a little bit of time to myself. Haven't even ate since 9am this morning!!!

Sleeping finally!!!!!! Now I need to run about like a mad woman to get the shopping and washing in before she wakes! Did E fall asleep lp?

fuzzy sounds like a vodka day to me!

its so hard, cos i can tell you what i would do, ie, put eva in the cot, unload at least the frozen stuff, stamp my feet at the wet washing and leave eva to sleep. if she was showing no signs, i would bring her down and basically amuse her till bed-7pm, without a nap. but s, isnt eva and has her own personality.
hope you have found a way to de-stress.

chloe was on her school trip today- blackpool pleasure beach. iterinary was leave blackpool at 3pm, arrive back at school for 4pm. 1 hour seemed very optomistic, but im here- against my better judgement- waiting.

i blame the daily mail- read a really sad article about how many kids are being neglected by their parents- teachers saying their having to bring in snacks, find socks, jumpers etc in lost property, and the worst one was a girl of nine, whose mother regularly keeps her waiting after school for an hour!

Thanks everyone
I know what you mean climbing, felt worse this morning somehow :(
sassy how awful for your mum. We had some comments a bit like that, and of course it's wonderful we have N but I wish some people would stop treating him like a consolation prize and that we shouldn't be grieving for A as "at least we have a baby"
mama I think your idea of writing letters is lovely. We have a memory box for him and it would be nice to add to it.
I realise I do need some help and am planning to talk to my friend and DM soon. SIL apparently blasted MIL for interfering. I don't know why she did it apart from over keenness to help but that's the sort of help I could do without.

Seems its Ns turn to not sleep now. Left him babbling away in his cot as he's just fighting it. Must be another wonder week!

MrsH I expect photos of FABULOUS cupcakes then in October

Pebble are you not going back to your current job then at all?

Yes same job role as before Fuzzzy but new (hopefully much nicer) company, more £ and another week hols. Plus I know I am really lucky to get something decent in the current market. I think we will know by the end of this year if the business is going to work or not, they change over of pet food in the stores we want to be in is around October-ish so hopefully we will be able to offer them what they want and in time then we just need customers. LOADS of customers . I hope then if things are going okay DH can drop to 4 days a week in the New Year so he and P can spend a day together on their own.

I need to contact nursery to arrange her taster sessions soon I suppose. Another bit of luck is that my Mum starts another degree in September and will have 2 days free so I am going to spend P to nursery for 3 days (instead of 5) so she will spend the other 2 with my Mum here and my Mum will do our cleaning. I will pay her but I reckon it will still be cheaper than full time nursery and I get the bathrooms cleaned and we don't have to drive P to nursery for 2 days. We shall see though, might all be more difficult in RL!

Pene which nursery did you choose in the end? The near or far away one?

Engels P has started falling asleep around 10am (this didn't use to happen), then she usually naps around 12.30pm and 4.30pm but it's all a bit vague and only for about 30 mins to 1 hour max.

Ipswich I cannot imagine the feelings you and DP have gone through after losing N's twin, I truly cannot imagine the heartbreak that you must feel. This time has flown by and you have probably been focusing all your energies in to N and it is a very short amount of time to have been able to deal with your bereavement. I am not going to say anything else because everything I was thinking the other ladies have already said. I will just say though that surely 2 weeks will not be enough and I too question the patient confidentially (although I am not really sure how this works with a baby/HV etc). If you haven't told your MIL to f**k off you're a better woman than me!

Fuzzzy The hair pulling, scratching really annoys me too . Although I can probably count on one hand the times P has slept in her cot in the daytime since January.

Ipswich, I can only echo what the others have said. We're here for you to be sad, happy about N, vent, share things that are too hard to talk about with others who are too close. I'm sure that having N has been a huge solace in this dark time but it doesn't lessen the loss of A. I'm glad you're going to get someone to talk to. We all know how overwhelming having our wee babies is, I wonder if things are feeling harder now because we're getting the hang of parenting our bundles and now have a bit of headspace.

Ladies! I have a bone to pick with you all, yes, all of you . As mummy to the second youngest baby here (10th Nov, overdue!) I look to all your posts as a warning of what's to come, safe in the knowledge that I'm a couple of week behind most of you. However, today there was an incident that none of you had warned me about! I gave L raisins today for the first time. Good grief! The nappy! Rank and full of whole raisins! You might have warned me!

mrsh spookily I found something very strange in E's nappy this morning. It looked like a cigarette butt (no one smokes here) so had to (sorry TMI) "investigate" it and it was a mushroom stalk, a whole one! Bleurgh! < < sick not envy

Cheshire no I'm not going back to my old job it's only possible to do it full time and I don't want to go back more than three days a week.

fuzzzy no E did not go to sleep so I had to keep him awake until after dinner and bath. DP had volunteered to take him this evening as I'm exhausted after trying to sleep train all week (1hr minimum each night to get him to sleep) so typically tonight he falls fast asleep in 10 minutes! DP came downstairs and said "I don't know what all the fuss is about, that was easy". He nearly got a saucepan on his head

LP, it's weird when something comes out the other end whole isn't?! It's like they're one of those Tiny Tears dolls who dirties their nappies, just a straight tube inside .

Glad I'm not the only one investigating nappy contents today!

also, LP, DH has clearly got himself the job of putting to bed duty for life now!

ips My blood pressure's rising thinking of someone else, anyone else other than mum, taking a baby to the HV. What atrocious behaviour!!!

421 thanks for kulfikids, those booties are really cute

mama 8 teeth and you are managing to bf - you are a star!

cheshire i had moved from business development in tech firms to financial services (not the bob diamond type, I swear! ). may have to switch back. the problem is i won't have a part-time option . all the talk of going back to work has me depressed. i know i have to...no, change that to...i know i want to....but it feels like from now on it's going to be a permanently unhappy state...when at work i'll want to be with him and when with him i'll feel like i'm neglecting work. the problem in our home is that DH travels a lot...he has to.....not sure what support I'll have....

fuzzzy all the best for the interview...rooting for you!!

pebble hope the infection's cleared...

pebble at saucepan. Maybe if it's so easy he can do it every night?

If jacob wasnt the sensitive soul that he is, i'd have booked myself in somewhere for a week by now and left dp to flounder.

congrats on the job front cheshire em and pebble i think?

Good luck fuzzy

mrsh I dont really give mine raisins, so you cant be mad at me! and i have shown you the potential pitfalls of having a 2 year old with a poo fascination.

They've been nicknamed the poo detectives on their own thread

Yes I got a fright first nappy after S had raisins. I guess with no teeth she would have a tough time chewing them up!!

S went to bed at 8.30pm after napping till 5.20pm!! Can't even be happy that she might sleep in longer in the morning as I'm taking my gran shoe shopping tomorrow and she insisted I pick her up by 10am

M hasn't had raisins mrsH honest!

poo detectives indeed sassy

saucepan indeed pebble

You've reminded me that when we were on holiday we were out lateish one night at my mum and dad's so M slept there during the evening, then we had to wake him and put him in the car, drive back to the hotel, wake him up again getting hi out the car and then get him ready for bed/change/bottle etc. I feel like I pick up a fair bit of slack from DH - am trying to give him space and not rpessure him too miuch with taking care of M because some of the time he really can't deal with it (it's enough for him to get out of bed in the morning sometimes) but that's nto always possible or practical (especially once I'm back at work) and it can get really annoying.

We got back to the hotel room, I straight away started changing M's nappy, putting his pyjamas on, turn round and DH is ready for bed, lying down with a book.

"Oh. Going to bed are you?" said with lots of just the right amount of sarcasm.
"What?" he says looking flummoxed. I pointed out that he could be helpful and make Ms bottle while I was getting him ready. Then he had the cheek to make some comment about not being a mind reader! Men! Honestly, does he need an instruction manual? Does he think that we have fairies who magically change Ms nappy, make his bottles (and clean and hoover for that matter as he certainly never does any housework on his day at home!)?

(to be fair to DH he did then shamefaced make Ms bottle and give it to him).

Ooh Engels that kind of thing does make me chuckle when I think of DH dropping a day in the New Year to spend time with P. I love babies but am not sure I am crazy about toddlers so he can deal with her then! I came down to the kitchen the other day and they had only had breakfast and it was a bloody disaster area.

Does this sound like P is weaning herself?.... She last had a feed at 12.30am and has only just asked for one at 9am (had some breakfast in between) and yesterday she didn't ask for a feed between 9am-3pm.

I thought it was night time feeds that got dropped first? Still feel knackered though even if she did seem to sleep for 6 hours last night - can't believe it personally and am wondering if I forgot to re-set the timer.

Also does everybody else have to fight when nappy changing?

Yup cheahire tho usually I can give her a toy to hold and be quick, but often she will flip over and escape. I have resorted at times (when very messy one) of having her arms under my legs (not hard) to keep her still.

Night time nursing always last to go here.

Night nursing still going strong here too. Was every 2 hr last night, and has been since tues when MIL decided he didn't need milk . Not sure if it's because he thinks he had to get as much milk as poss when he's home or he's picking up on my stress. I hope not. She has said he doesn't take bottles for her, nursery has no issue with this, and she said are you sure? Like the nursery is gonna lie about it fgs.

No raisins in nappy yet- although he has eaten some so I dont know where they end up!! Did get some carrots chunks yesterday though. Lovely! It's not so much nappy changing in our house, more nappy wrestling!!

ipswich in our house, R takes his bottle from me and the nanny (have one for two days a week) but he hollers the roof down when DH tries to give him a bottle. Guess he's decided that women are his primary care givers. Maybe in your case, he's even fussy about which women (guess he doesn't like your MIL either )

Yep cheshire nappy wrestling here too. Maybe we should petition to have it made an Olympic sport :o

Interesting about the night weaning I wonder if theres a difference between ff and bf babies. W is ff and hasn't wanted a night feed for months but still has 3 -4 six oz bottles a day.

nappy wrestling here too (thanks for the new term strawberry ) I'm holding M down with a firm hand on his big fat tum.

M is only on 2 6oz bottles now - one made as porridge for breakfast and one before bed. The rest of the day he's on solids and water/weak juice. Have only just dropped the afternoon bottle and have replaced with fruit or biscuit/rice cracker with juice.

it is very rare for a baby to self wean before a year, even two. Although there are natural ebbs and flow's and also nursing strikes.

about 500ml is about right for milk i believe (both bf and ff although you can't tell with bf naturally)

both DS and DD have fevers here, trying to decide whether to brave the supermarket or not