December 2011: Of Mice, Men and Tables

[NorthernChinchilla]

Here we go...I hope!

Aaargh, I have a clingy and feeding DS.
Bugger.

seven congratulations on the flat sale!! Fantastic news! Fingers crossed other good news follows. :)
xiao welcome back. I am considering a change of career, ...not because I need a change of hours, but because I may want to become a Smiley Pirate and pinch your boat!
The blog could be a good idea, although it could mean more hours, it may lead to other business opportunities.
lmf my granddad drove a Humber Stipe (! A Humber something) during the war when he had to drive the officers about.
northern the only punishment option for someone singing about my thighs would be divorce, but that sounds v v OTT and mumsnet-like!
kate it sounds like you have some good advice, but maybe try a smaller teat so it takes him longer to drink and he'll feel fuller before he finishes the bottle. Tbh I don't know how much BOi is drinking, I've not added it up.

Humber snipe, not stipe.

I am getting a bit desperate here. Had 2 hours sleep so far. DD is waking every 10-20 mins, I settle her and put her back down and she wakes again. Its worse than a newborn. If I leave her for a few minutes she screams her head off. I brought her into bed with me at 2am and she has been grizzling and writhing around since then, wide awake. Have given her ibuprofen, teething powder and gel. Just don't know what to do any more, nothing is working and I can't spend all night jiggling her on my shoulder whch is the only thing that stops her grizzling. I have totally run out of ideas and don't think I can survive on 2-3hrs sleep a night.

Thing is, she's fine in the day so I don't think it can be that she's in that much pain from teething, no other signs of infection or illness.

I'm going to cut out dairy for a few days to see if that helps but I would have thoughjt if that was the problem she wuld be upset in the day too?

Help help help. I can't go on like this.

gee massive sympathies no suggestions unfortunately but did it get any better?

Poor you Gee, I don't know what to suggest. I take it that this is not the first night this has happened?
During the day, she's possibly fine because there's noise and events around her, but at night everything is magnified by silence and the darkness, so I'd guess that something is making her uncomfortable - rather than it just be that she's feeling clingy. Maybe a trip to the GP, it may be something like an ear infection...? I have no idea. I'm just guessing. BOi is my first - what do I know? Poor little thing. Poor you. :( (I bow to others' knowledge, would an ear infection give an increase in temperature, or other signs?)
BOi is 7 months old today. It is going too fast.
But he's nowhere nearer to sleeping through. Getting out of bed was v tough this morning. He woke up three times last night and wouldn't settle without a feed - and a long feed at that. In fact he woke up a few more times but I shushed him back to sleep. I think that's teething though - hence the will to feed. Also, developmentally he's hitting a few milestones too and that gets 'em restless. But the sooner I get a monitor and get him in his own room, the better. probably. So, in my boob reclamation project, I'm doing OK up until the nighttime.
There was a very sweet moment on Sunday when my friend imitated BOi's "ayah", so he "ayah-ed" back, and they carried on for quite a while, taking it in turns and giggling about it. He hasn't done that for me yet. To entertain him in the car, I make Ah- Ah - Ah - Alistair sounds, and Da- da- da- daddy sounds for him to imitate, but he hasn't picked it up yet, And when I imitate his noises, he shuts up to listen to me.
have a great day y'all!

Seven Congrats on the Flat sale. Hope your BFP sticks too.

AWCH Sorry, hopefully next month will be your month.

Xiao Welcome back. Houseboat sounds cool.

Gee The only advice I have is to take LO to docs to check ears out. Maybe get a music box for night-time play too as could very well be the silence that she doesn't like.

Sky slept all night found her awake in her cot at 7:45 happily playing away lol.

Darcie has gone to school nicely. Although I did get angry with her over nothing probably. I'm just fed up of constantly tidying the house and it looking like a tip. Her room is a state and she's lost her school reading books too :( aaarrgghh

Banbury.

We were supposed to be going back to bed this morning. My pumping trumping fart generating son is not on board with this idea. I may have to bop him over the head with the sleepy mallet!

Sorry Gee, nightmare :( no idea what you can do.

Thought my night was bad, ten times she woke up. I am exhausted. That's three terrible nights in a row. But I feel like it's actually not bad compared to your nightmarish scenario Gee :(

Update lol

nits gone husband back in house with a two week proation to go to relate for leave for good, air has settled down and Hope can crawl sit and is trying to pull her self up. She is teething and eating toast and veg and fruit ok and she can have soya yoiguts so going to try the milk so i can give her oats.

She had her 6 month check up by hv. The hv found she could pass objects from one hand to the other can use a pinsher grip and is very alert. Hope is on the 25tg centile for hight weight and head circumfance, so she is perfect. Hv not very happy he only negative thing she could say was that Hope had not talked when she was here. That Hope should be saying Ma ga da go etc by now :-(

She is refering air to CEMH? because he is 3 and she has not heard him say a full sentance! Air is going to speech threapy play groups and im dyslexic which could cause speech delay. I didnt talk till i was five and started school. I think she is just trying to find something wrong. Its so annoying.

Aaron has said "more pop please daddy" and "I want to go to Grandads House" so he does say sentances but only when he wants to.

Air Hope your well? Your HV needs to sod off. A 3yr will not say a sentence on demand..If he's does it at home then he's fine. Silly woman....

Oh your HV really is nit picking! (You should've called her in sooner!!) BOi is 7 months, he chatters to himself when he feels like it. It's very sporadic and not on demand. The sounds he makes are indecipherable, mostly. Look up online "What your child should be able to do at 6 months", and speech doesn't even come into it until 7 months or later - as in your child might be able to start saying... Ridiculous! Silly woman, We haven't thrown any haddock for a while, allow me to lob the first one!
Good luck with "H" and Relate.
And I'm absolutely sure that Air is fine with when he chooses to speak to.
Stupid woman. Grrrrr!
(ps - are 6 month checks the norm? I haven't heard anything, but we've moved house a couple of times now and I'm not sure the HVs know where we are. Not heard anything from a GP though...)

I have a very vocal baby and at nearly seven months she has made no dada mama sounds at all, just random noise. Your hv is fullof shit. I'd report her for hassling you.

oi we get 8 month checks where I am.

gee I'd agree trip to the GP or phone your HV if you have a good one. The nights sound exactly like Eva was when she was having lactose, though she was just as bad during the day if I wasn't holding her.

air he sounds like he's doing fine, as long as he can talk at home it really doesn't matter that he won't do it on demand for her, stupid woman should believe you! And Eva is mostly just making ooh and aah and whingey sounds still.

I know I probably shouldn't still be testing obsessively but the BFP is definitely not fading yet, it may even be slightly darker than yesterday.

Hoping poorly babies are on the mend soon.

Air it's good to hear from you, take it easy and slap the health visitor with any fish product you like.

My eldest got her music report, and it's all good. She'll be joining the training brass band in September, which is superb considering she has only had twenty two 20 minute lessons, which she shares with another pupil who plays trumpet. I suspect that when her normal school report is in too I'll be buying a treat for her:)

Octoboy is beating his crib toys up.

I'm trying to decide whether I can organise a party for a five year old in two and a half weeks. So, lots of Banbury still going on:o

Air your HV is, as mopsy so eloquently put it, full of shit. My mother didn't talk (at all!!!) until she was 7. Then she came out with fully formed sentences in English and Dutch. Good luck with H and relate, I really hope it works out for the best.

If anyone is in London and wants to come round to the boat for a playdate and a look-see, say the word!

And thanks for all the sympathy re: job and I'm sorry to hear you're in the same boat Ree - only time will tell how flexible I'll be able to be, but you're right aethel, getting pregnant again so soon is not necessarily the smartest thing. I'm just thinking with rose-tinted specs and getting all excited for seven. Sigh, it's just so frustrating, it's not like I'm packing biscuits in a factory where there's no option but to be present - in a knowledge economy I should be able/allowed to work wherever I have privacy and a secure internet connection! I have to account for every hour in the day already - what better way to prove I'm actually doing real work?

Gee massive sympathy - could it be constipation or trapped wind maybe? We had a similar night a few nights ago, no poo for 48 hours, very hard tummy and then the next morning some teeny weeny rabbit droppings in his nappy. I think it was because we had tried something new food-wise, and he hasn't been taking as much fluid in as I think he's starting to reverse cycle.

LMF yay for your eldest! Music is such a wonderful thing to have in your life. Brass instruments are hard, she must have real talent!!

hi guys. gee you totally get my sympathy and I agree with the others that a GP check might be in order (oi's idea of ropy ears might be a good un as they often hurt more at nights). Good luck and really hope baby improves soon.

And at this end... I ended up feeding DS four times in the night but used a trick from someone on the BFing threads from the No-cry-sleep-solution: when he woke I fed him for 2-5 minutes and them when his breathing and sucking slowed took him off the boob and cuddled him
Back to sleep. So the first night feed at 11 was a big one and the rest were short. Today he's had 2 oz in three bottles ( new avent natural teats seem to be better than old style ones) and lots of offers of water in sippy cups in between. I will declare open milk bar at 6.30 and hope I don't explode before then. He did proper bottle sucking today for the first time ever too! Still feel so guilty when he cries for boob though :(

Glad you're OK air and hope H behaves himself. HV is a loon, my baby says aa! And the occasional mmmmm!. Which is totally age appropriate.

wow xiao, visit options? Coool!!

Ps lmf, how old was dD when she started lessons? I really want my guys to learn music lessons (pushy mummy). I love brass instruments as they're so versatile...

Hi everyone,

Missed so much of the thread and only been away one weekend!

Had a lovely visit to the Isle of Wight to visit friends and family :) Poor DS slept a total of 5 and a half hours naps on Monday plus sleeping the usual 7pm-7am, he was shattered!

FIL is visiting today and getting on my wick again re. feeding! Bloody mashing up banana and spoon feeding it to DS - really doesn't need to bother, DS is off purées! Also saying DS isn't gaining enough weight because I'm not spoon feeding him and I'm not feeding him enough. I suspect if DS was chubby I'd be getting told I'm feeding him too much. Wish he'd just shut up and let me get on with it!

My mum is quite happy giving DS a whole carrot to play with and whole roast parsnips to eat, and she's the same age so I don't think it's an age thing.

Anyway whinge over!

Will catch up on thread properly soon!

aethel, I started age 4! Violin is also extremely versatile and also portable! Very important IMO.

And I don't thimbles pushy. It's such a wonderful gift to give your child, as xiao says. It's given me so much pleasure, I've met so many people and had so many wonderful opportunities to travel. And everytime I move town (which is a lot) I join the local symphony orchestra and it makes it much easier to meet people. Not to mention the fabulous pocket money made busking and doing wedding gigs as a teenager/student. You can rake in a lot playing in a classical quartet on a busy pedestrian street...

Thimbles!? I don't even know what that autocorrected from!

aethel She started with school at the beginning of year 4, so was eight. It costs me £100 a year, an absolute bargain as it includes the loan of the instrument as well as a weekly 20 minute lesson every week during term time. As far as I am aware there's no extra cost for training band, and they get to faff about in a proper band setting, learn how to play as an ensemble and have concerts in the auditorium:o There's a picture of her hugging her brass on the farcebook group if you can contain your brass envy

It made me laugh too MissRee, and thanks for the compliment! Really sorry that you've got that commute to deal with, I remember you saying about it- no wonder you're not looking forward to going back... And with your role I guess there's no chance of home working; could you do reduced hours?

Have you thought about a white noise box Gee? We were bought this
www.amazon.co.uk/Prince-Lionheart-Slumber-Bear-Premium/dp/B001QIN6N8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1341945837&sr=8-3 and although the bear is awful (we just took the box out) it did work for DS and made him drop off. The clever thing is that it's noise and movement sensitive, so as soon as LO starts to wriggle or squawk the white noise comes back on for another 15 minutes.
Hope tonight's better for you.

And I know what you mean Oi, DS is 7 months on Thursday, I'm torn between being fascinated by how he develops and wishing I could almost go back to the beginning to do it all over again....

Really hope things work out for you and DH air- if the counselling works, that's great for you and the kids, but if not, you've done all you can and you're best off on your own.

Good on your little musician LMF, that's brilliant! And again mopsy, I'm sure you can feel the coming from me- that sounds soooo cool and I've always loved those quartets in the streets, seen/heard some cracking ones in Brighton and Manchester.

You're being impressively determined on all of this aethel, and I feel for you as it can't be fun.

How's about this for a horror story then? My poor friend- had her first DC on Sunday, home Monday/Tuesday...and on Friday night one of their appliances burst into flame in the middle of the night. All OK, but house is ruined through smoke damage and they're lucky to be alive. They're staying at her parents and trying to get over the shock.