October 2011 chattering, eating and on the move!

[strawberrypenguin]

New thread!

ips I just remembered....since the throwing up has stopped, in case there is any diarrhoea today as well, you could try some apple sauce. My mum swears it always worked for me :)

She's singing away now... Does she not feel as tired??

I don't know how you ladies do it, I slept 12-6.30 and still feel tired!

C now rapid at commando crawling, had to try baby proof as best I can. Dogs bowls on the stairs! No idea what to do about our tv & all the wires. We have a step in the living room and he can crawl up it!

I really feel for all of you suffering with wide awake babies...I am awful when I don't get enough sleep.

I have to confess that I've finally resorted to letting H cry it out. I only do it when I know it's a temper tantrum - his screaming is quite impressive when he doesn't get his way! But miraculously stops as soon as he hears me on the stairs, little monkey!

I do feel very guilty about it but it's working and my parents did it to me and I'm fine (I think )

Thanks for the advice on sneaking milk into food. I put a whole bottle into his porridge this morning. I had to give it to him on two separate sittings as this obviously made masses! I've now mixed in another couple of ounces into his curry for lunch. He's struggling to poo at the mo and I think it's down to a lack of fluids so am hoping this will help.

Interesting that people have found pupd effective. When we've tried it, A has just worked himself into a tissy. I put him down awake at 7 last night and ended up feeding him until he was nearly asleep after half an hour of screaming and then he woke at 10 and screamed until 2 because I wouldn't let him suckle to sleep. I even took him for an hours walk round the village at 11 to try and break the cycle. He loved it, calmed down and then started screaming as soon as we got home. He's screaming again now because he needs a nap.

He's snotty at the moment so may be feeling rotten and I'm too knackered to deal with the sleep thing. I just hope he's fit and well at the point I get so cross about the situation that I find the energy to fix it.

I am lost as to what I'm doing. 1.30am here. He woke at 12.30, just 2 hrs from last, I spent 30 mins getting him back to sleep without a feed and he woke after 20. so now I am feeding him and I have been awake an hour - what was the point?!!?!

...he barely fed and has gone back to sleep

I can't keep this up anymore. I have to be up to drop ds1 and ds2 at soccer camp.

I think it's time to get tough mummy out - they're not tiny babies that need round the clock feeding. As long as he's getting enough solids in the daytime he should be able to sleep through the night (or at least 6/7 hours) without bf - does he have anything else as a comfort for if/when he wakes? C has the music and a fleecy bunny blanket.

Is he in a separate room? I found C suddenly slept through the very night we moved him.

Do you get up at the earliest peep, or wait till full on wails? What do you try to get him back off before you offer bf - it should be last resort. What did you do with DS1 and 2? If music doesn't work with C - like last week he was teething and woke up through the night without going back to sleep with music, I'd go in and gently shush him, stroking his face, singing the lullaby, then I'd leave the room and leave him 15 minutes.

He barely fed because it's not nutrition or milk he wants - just boob 24/7, it's the same as babies who need to have their dummy in all the time. Bad habit!

Lots of sympathy for you though, you're just trying to be the best mummy you can be, and that's admirable!

I guess in a way it's easier for me - making a bottle is such a massive faff (I usually only have one washed and sterilised, so if I made one I'd have to wash up another and sterilise it in the middle of the night) that it's just not an option for me. Since he was 6mo he's had 2 in the night .

scheh Sorry but I disagree with offering bf as last resort as by then they are beyond it often. Can I recommend Penelope Leachs book, " your baby and child@. Full of lots of information and gives a good variety of ways to manage. She isn't fully attachment parenting like Dr Sears but offers common sense advice. Breasts are there as food and comfort. They are the original pacifier, so if still bfing it seems mad not to offer. It's always the first thing I do and on number 3 now. Yup I'm tired and last night was hard, she's got eat infection, 3 top teeth pushing thro, has tummy ache (done a little poi this morning) and she is still a baby. Not newborn, but still dependent on me to meet her needs. Tiredness is the pits and hard when you've got older children to look after too. That's why I cosleep or have her in. It next to me. No trudging the corridors, simply lifting her out of cot (side down and agsinst my bed so easier) or just swapping side for open access to boob. I think I'd feel so much worse getting up. It's great some babies here sleep through, but each baby is different and sleeping through is not the holy grail of parenthood and neither does a baby waking equate to bad baby or bad parenting. Babies (actually humans) are meant to sleep deeply for such long stretches and it's a very modern ideology of babies and children sleeping away from parents (1800's). I trust my instincts over the new social fad.

Ps this is from a sleep deprived mummy herself today

Ear not eat

Poo not poi

Ffs Cot not It. I really hate this iPhone keypad

Are NOT meant to sleep deeply.

I need to re check posts carefully before pressing send. Stupid me

I think as sch says, they are not newborns who need to be fed every few hrs through the night. I'm guessing it's more comfort he is waking for rather than food. If eating/drinking well through day then I don't believe it is waking through hunger. I think you maybe do need to try be stronger and look at other ways to deal with the sleep. Great that L is now settling better by himself, that's the first step. I think it will be hard but worth it.
Did you have same sort of problems with older ds's?

Mama you've made me chuckle with your corrections!

outnumbered hope you get some rest x

littlepebble

fuzzy but comfort is as much of a need.

I don't jump at every groan and moan J makes and she will rouse and the settle back. I do wake everytime she rouses as I sleep quite lightly. I can tell at the moment she's needing extra help as teeth painful, ear infection and tummy ache. If she was waking and there appeared no obvious need, I'd see if she's getting cold at that time as temp drops in early hours, or if there is something external waking her. Im
Not saying that other parents who leave their children are doing it all wrong, but I do think there are different ways of looking at it and I am seeing it differently, that's all

And clearly outnumbeted is tired and finding it hard and my advice/POV may be unhelpful to her. Just when I'm
Struggling I am glad to be reminded that this is actually very normal and common and sleeping through isn't the aim of childrearing.

I understand right now that maybe J is needing more comfort but outnumbered has been struggling with the sleeping for a while now. She hasn't said that L is teething/ill etc so just suggesting that perhaps he is waking through habit rather than hunger.

Im not suggesting either that sleeping through is the main aim of childrearing, but by sounds of it she is lucky to be getting a few hours stretches a night and so must be exhausted. Tryin to help him sleep longer at night has to be a good thing for outnumbered too

Ok, I'll keep my mouth shut

Sorry for any offence. I just get frustrated with the fixation in general (not aimed at anyone here) that good baby = Sleeping thro and how society current fashion on childrearing is they be independent and self soothing. IMO till they are older, it's my role to give comfort and meet their whole needs. I know I'm off on a tangent and I promise I'll try and keep quiet more

And yes, I agree outnumbered does need a break and rest.

mama don't keep quiet everyone has their opinion and I like hearing both sides!

I think it's up to each individual to decide how they want to rear their child and having more than one opinion can help people to decide which way is best for them. That's the beauty of this thread we get so many different views that surely one will fit