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Eskarina · 14/05/2012 20:10

Tried to post on the original thread and my post got rejected as its full! Have copied and pasted below....

Congrats on the job offer ttl...hope the other one comes up trumps for you too.

Dd isn't quite crawling yet, but would very much like to. She is the queen of the Klingons at the moment, and has a meltdown the second I put her down, look in the opposite direction, or if someone else so much as looks at her. Not all the time thankfully, but definitely for part of every day.

On the bf thing, it's so personal.....I've just dropped doing the afternoon feed myself be cause dd is so distractible that she bobs on and off, which I don't like around other people, and now she finally has teeth the constant latch on/off was really hurting. I just bf once a day, our morning snuggle when she's nice and calm. I would be sad to give that one up just yet.

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FeijoaVodkaPlease · 13/07/2012 11:20

Nelsons Teething sachets are good CC. It sounds like he's just had a growth spurt. Feed him as normal (teething allowing) and he should catch up in a week or two. Be warned though, when he's feeling better he may turn into a ravenous beast for a couple of days!

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CuriosityCola · 13/07/2012 19:36

He is ten 1/2 months. Poor wee lamb. He just isn't himself. His preferred food at the moment is broccoli?! Ate his own and mine tonight. Not many extra calories in that though Grin

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vallinnapod · 13/07/2012 20:24

I second teething powder (I use the Boots own brand). Also does your DS like strawberries? I froze them and gave them to mine which he thought was awesome!

DS has been pretty good with teething but these current two are really bothering him. For the first time we have horribly nappies (think a used tissue after a cold Sad). He is off his food but thankfully still sleeping. Has been like this for over 10 days now poor poppet!

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CuriosityCola · 13/07/2012 20:24

Nickel, he eats quite a varied diet..mostly blw. If it's something I would use a spoon for (yoghurt) then he is spoon fed. I'm not sure I do enough puddings. The hv was talking about putting cream in his mash and giving him custard etc. I normally just give him fruit if he is still munchy.

While I remember. I seen a photo on Facebook today. One of my cousin's, daughter's, daughter. Slightly younger than my ds. She was in a forward facing (ill-fitting) car seat, with her ears pearced and her face covered in chocolate. Shock Everyone was commenting on how cute she was. I took one look and thought Aibu would have a field day with this! Grin

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CuriosityCola · 13/07/2012 20:26

Please excuse grammar on family explanation. I could see something was wrong, but too tired to work out what and fix it Blush

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vallinnapod · 13/07/2012 21:26

PMSL CC - I get tres judgy! Especially as I want DS in a rear facing seat when he out grows his bubba one.

On that front - he is still in his Maxi Cosi Pebble. Way under the 13kg weight guidance (and will be beyond 12/13 months - he was just under 9kg at 9 months) Can he stay in it until 13kgs? He is a looooooong bebe! His legs have hung over the end since about 5 months! His head is still below the top though. Any advice?

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nickelbarapasaurus · 14/07/2012 13:17

at 10½ months, he should still be having milk as his main source of nutrition anyway.
I think you'd be better to up milk feeds if he's not gaining weight.

maybe you could give him cheese if he's still munchy?
or more of the food he's just been eating? second helpings.

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nickelbarapasaurus · 14/07/2012 13:20

as long as the straps still fit properly, then yes, that should be fine.

I was judging in mothercare that all of their next stage car seats are forward-facing.

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FeijoaVodkaPlease · 14/07/2012 16:19

FFS HVs and their advice. Babies do NOT need pudding. Feeding them pudding after every meal just teaches them bad habits.

Also around the 9 months mark babies start to make the transition from milk as their main source of nutrition to food being the main source. Not that you'd know it by looking at DD! (it does take a while for some babies. Or not if you're my DS)

I just came on the computer to print a recipe out (Grilled Salmon with butterbean mash, yum), and DD has passed out in my arms, so I have to stay here. Darn! Grin

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FeijoaVodkaPlease · 14/07/2012 16:23

We have a stage 0&1 carseat which is rear facing til 13kg. It's a bit better than a capsule as the head rest and straps are adjustable. A right faff, but I feel better having her rf for as long as possible.

I do know there is a Scandinavian car seat that is rf til a lot older.

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CuriosityCola · 14/07/2012 18:06

Thanks for the advice. Considering I'm so gobby assertive most of the time, I always come away from the health visitor doubting myself.

I'm currently trying to plant the seed for another rear facing car seat. Ds hates being in the car, but safety first as far as I'm concerned. Not usually so manipulative, but I would like it to be dh's idea. His parents already think I'm a lentil weaving loon Grin

As long as there is an inch above their head (and below max weight) they are fine in first car seat. Leg length doesn't matter. P.s. If you go on the mumsnet product section, avoid any crash test videos. Ds may be rear facing until he is 18 Wink

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CuriosityCola · 14/07/2012 18:09

P.s. FVP, can you come tell my mil that. He was offered a bit of chocolate sponge today. Wasn't interested as he had just had loads of soup and bread. Shook his head. She still pushed it into his mouth. Despite being on board with blw, she can't help herself.

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CuriosityCola · 14/07/2012 21:53

Would everyone mind sharing their routines/typical days with me? I keep trying to follow ds's lead, but we can have a couple of good day/nights and then it's all crazy again. Tonight he has used his bedtime as a nap and is still being life and soul for dh. Not grumpy, just wanting to play.

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vallinnapod · 15/07/2012 18:23

I give DS 2 'courses'. Annoyingly he often says he is 'full' of savoury stuff but then gobbles down a yoghurt or fruit pot. He would also eat blueberries and raspberries until he exploded if I let him.

Routine-wise DS is now consistent-ish. I tried desperately to impose a routine on him which failed. The below has only evolved over the past, errr, 10.5 months Wink (BTW - the timings are obviously not exact or the same every day!)

7 - wake, 210ml milk
7:30 - Mama goes on cross trainer for 30 mins/DS goes in jumperoo!
8:15 - Breakfast
9:30 - nap in bed- this is a good one normally, 1-2 hours
12:15 - Lunch
15:00 - 180ml milk
17:15 - Tea
19:00 - Bath/180ml milk/teeth clean/bed (normally takes 30 mins ish)

At some point in the afternoon he may have 45 min-ish nap, nearly always in his pushchair when we are out as I tend to be 'trapped' in my the morning nap.

The bits in between everything we are either running errands (so in pushchair), lunch out, play in the play pen or on the floor with me, swimming, monkey music, rhyme time and now the swings at the park!

Not sure when to drop the afternoon milk. He is not fussed by it but then he has never taken to having a snack (which I was told to give him when I dropped the morning milk feed.

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nickelbarapasaurus · 17/07/2012 10:28
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nickelbarapasaurus · 17/07/2012 11:00

routine, CC ? Shock

5am DH gets up for work.
DD starts scratching and writhing and wanting food
5:50am DH leaves the house
DD is still scratching and writhing and wanting food.
continues like this (swapping over and going in and out of sleep) until about 7 ish when I give up and put the telly on.
DD continues to eat on and off until the alarm goes off.
I fall asleep (the alarm goes off in 9 min intervals from 8am until 8:45)
8:45 I struggle to get out of bed.
from 8:45 to 9:35, I get washed, dress DD, get ready for work.
In this time, DD writhes and scratches and whinges a lot (and cries when I dress her)
9:40-9:45 we leave the house.
On the way to work, we see lots of people and end up chatting, so get to the shop at about 10:10.
Open shop.
If I'm (very) lucky, DD will sleep after pram ride for about ½ hour to 1 hour.
then she'll be hungry, so she'll scratch and cry a bit. (as she wakes)
Today, DD has not slept, so she's crawling around on her mat, trying to eat important bits of paper.
and a bit of a play with me maybe
11:00ish DD has a milk feed.
11:40ish Fake sleep for about 3 seconds then crying and rubbing and scratching. (soothing from me and trying to rub more cream on which just results in cream being all over my clothes)
12ish nappy change
play time for DD
1sh more milk
trying to get actual work done
3ish more milk.
normally DH comes in from work between ½2 and 3 o'clock, so I feed DD while he makes sandwiches. DD eats a bit of bread and a few bits of veg (i mean "eats", not eats)
and then i hand DD over.
and then DH does nappy change and i try to work (esp away from the till).
4ish cup of tea
4:30 ish DH tries to escape to practise the organ.
if he manages, i play with DD and take her around the shop with me to work.
5:30ish close shop.
6ish get home (collect DH on the way)
feed DD milk
DH makes dinner.
7- 7:30 we sit down to eat (dd now has a little chair for food at home)
2 more nappy changes in the evening including a change of clothes because they're covered in spit and blood.
we try to get DD to sleep at about 8o'clock (usually by a mixture of milk, cuddles and walking around the house - staying absolutely still and silent in darkness doesn't work because she scratches)
we go to bed at 10-10:30.
DD still wide awake at this point, so she scratches and cries until i'm changed then she pounces on my boob like she hasn't eaten all day Hmm
DD feeds/sleeps through the night.

last night she didn't wake till 4:30, but then she didn't sleep till gone midnight.
i know, because i was the only one still awake.
on Fridays, we try to squeeze in This Week Eleanor Loves....

PS - I haven't missed out the naps. there very rarely are naps.

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CuriosityCola · 17/07/2012 12:21

Thank you both. That is actually really helpful. I know I shouldn't laugh, but the 'fake sleep' is well known in my house Grin.

Nickel does your dd go back to sleep between 7-9am with you?

Val the problem we are having is ds can't go that long between naps. He gets all grumpy after about two hours. Sometimes after an hour in the morning.

Will share my routine soon. Have acute tonsillitis and I'm not a good patient. Sad

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nickelbarapasaurus · 17/07/2012 12:40

she sort of goes back to sleep - we both kind of doze in and out.

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CuriosityCola · 17/07/2012 13:14

Your routine looks very like ours used too. We would be trying everything to get ds to sleep and he would be having none of it until I went to bed. Then he would need a big sleep in the morning to make up for it. I eventually starting going to bed earlier and early and then sneaking back up without him. Was very hit and miss though depending on if he wanted to cluster feed and if the 'pantley pull off' worked. I have silently commando crawled out of the room too many times to count Grin Btw, this isn't advice, more observation as ds was up again until 10pm last night too.

Val I'm very impressed by your cross trainer effort!

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nickelbarapasaurus · 17/07/2012 13:20

Grin

we, as a family, went to bed at 9:15 on sunday night.
dd didn't sleep until after 11.

she's asleep now.
she's had 3 feeds (since 10:50 with playtime in between), and has fallen asleep on this one.
she's been asleep about 20 minutes Shock

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CuriosityCola · 17/07/2012 13:48

Ah, I love an unexpected nap. Quick have a cuppaSmile

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nickelbarapasaurus · 17/07/2012 13:58

it's been an hour. Grin

can't move, she's on me .
i have made the mistake of moving her in the past. i'm not falling for that again!

DH is here, so is packing up my school order (i need 6 of that - HmmGrin)

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CuriosityCola · 17/07/2012 14:25
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FeijoaVodkaPlease · 21/07/2012 20:45

Fecking jabs/teeth/dodgey tummy. Poor DD is pooing like a little poo machine. I think it's a combination of post jab reaction and teething, but then it could just be standard tummy upset. Thank goodness for calpol and boob milk on tap boob!

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Eskarina · 21/07/2012 21:39

Aw sorry to hear of unsettled babies. Poor little things.

We've just come back from a weeks holiday in a cottage in,the countryside. It was lovely but quite a learning curve with discovering which parts of dd's routine are negotiable and which are definitely not! Plus it seems that she doesn't nap in the buggy any more, at least not reliably, so fitting in the requisite numbers of sleeps in a day was tricky.

Someone asked about routine. We have fallen into one, have been since 6/7 months, though it shifts about a bit. I like it, I must admit. I was prepared to follow dd's lead etc but actually we are both so much happier when we stick to a schedule. I'm a firm believer in going with things so long as they are working for us both (and DH too of course!) but I have had to revise certain ideas of mine because they don't suit dd and similarly I have had to alter things because they were no good for me! I don't think there's anything wrong with making your routine/habits/whatever work for you both!

So usually it is
Dd wakes 6-6.30ish and plays in cot. We get her up if she starts sounding distressed.
6.30 milk - still bf that one so don't know how much
7.00 get up (probably!)
7.30 breakfast. Dd can easily put away 2 weetabix or an adult sized portion of readybrek!
9ish nap. Might have up to 2 hours, usually nearer 60-90 mins
10.30 or whenever wakes - water &banana (she loved them!)
12ish lunch
1ish - nap. Prob the most flexible element of routine. Always has one but depends on how long morning nap was as to what time and how long.
3.30 milk. Always make 7oz but she usually drinks more like 5
5.30 dinner
6.30 DH comes home. Bath soon after
7:15 milk again make 7oz but sometimes drinks as little as 3; stories then bed. Self settles after a couple of minutes of shouting. We've learned not to cuddle her then or try to calm her, she just needs to say her piece about not wanting to go to bed then she settles down and sleeps.

I'm going to commit heresy and say that we have moved dd into a forward facing car seat. She was really cramped in her maxi cosi, having a long body, so there was probably less than an inch above her head. She also weighs 10.5 kilos so plenty past the 9kg minimum. Mostly though she was frustrated with being rear facing. We did a lot of driving this holiday and she was so much happier as I could talk to her as we drove along (DH driving obv). I know rf is safer in a crash, but with the fuss she made I think we have significantly reduced the chances of us causing a crash by turning her round!

And can I say I am overawed that val does 45 min in a cross trainer each day. Well done you!!!

Sorry for the mammoth post!

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