Just Mumming Along (viroids 2)

[Eskarina]

Tried to post on the original thread and my post got rejected as its full! Have copied and pasted below....

Congrats on the job offer ttl...hope the other one comes up trumps for you too.

Dd isn't quite crawling yet, but would very much like to. She is the queen of the Klingons at the moment, and has a meltdown the second I put her down, look in the opposite direction, or if someone else so much as looks at her. Not all the time thankfully, but definitely for part of every day.

On the bf thing, it's so personal.....I've just dropped doing the afternoon feed myself be cause dd is so distractible that she bobs on and off, which I don't like around other people, and now she finally has teeth the constant latch on/off was really hurting. I just bf once a day, our morning snuggle when she's nice and calm. I would be sad to give that one up just yet.

Morning ladies. Urgh to the broken nights. Nickel, your dd must be made of strong stuff if she can go that long without sleep! I though mine did well when she does her no-nap days of being awake 6am-7pm, but at least she then sleeps the othe 11 hours straight. Must be completely bloomin knackering for you and sympathy!

Actually dd has had a couple of disturbed nights but it's because she's not well. Poor baby had her mmr+boosters on Tuesday, nurse asked if she was well, which she was on tues am, by the time the afternoon rolled round it was obvious she had the cold that DH and I have been sharing this week, and yesterday she was a snotty coughing tearful mess. So much so that she got up at 9pm (having been asleep for 2hours) to tell us again how miserable she is. Poor baby. She's cheerful enough this morning, if a bit hoarse.

Which is just as well because today is her first morning at her childminder. Just a settling in session, though I'm not sure how long for. Tbh I could do with as long as I can get in school sorting my classroom out so I would have happily left her for as long as I could so I can get on but I doubt a cm wants an ill, grumpy, unfamiliar baby for very long. I tried taking her into work yesterday but had to give up v quickly when it became obvious that she was not going to nap in the buggy as planned, then either wailed and clung to my ankles or raced around the room finding wildly unsuitable things to chew. I start work properly on Monday

to the ttc. I have been skulking on a couple of threads about elcs to see if that would be an option for me next time (doesn't look like it tbh). DH and I would quite like to start ttc for a summer baby next year but the birth is putting me off so much. Can't face that again at the moment. Still, with all these capes flying around we'll look like a little brace of superheroes (anyone have the misfortune to remember the powerpuff girls?!)

Val, hope DS has a fab day tomorrow! Well done on surviving the year! X

well, we had a night of sleep!
she's obviously exhausted herself.
we both slept (well, i slept, so am assuming she did too...) from about 11:30 till about 3, then woke and latched on and slept again till 5ish - we were awake just before DH but didn't go back to sleep ntil afte r6.
then we slept on and off until we were forced to get up.

i feel soooo rested!

I've been on the grad thread trying to recruit new babies for us to steal and cuddle viroid post grads . It made me realise that 2 years ago I was still JSing (actually 2 years ago I was having chem pg 2 :S )! Now I'm sitting here wishing DD would Go To SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (or even just stop pulling all the books off of the bookcase )

Ooh yes fvp, new suggly newborn cuddles! I could almost feel broody! if I forget that dd screamed nonstop for the first 6 months
Dd loved her morning at the childminders, which is a huge relief. She was miserable as anything this morning before we set off so i was amazed when I didn't get a phone call within the first hour of me being away. She even had a nap there!

Esk why isn't elcs an option? I had a friend who cried in her doctors appointment (it was her first baby) until he promised her one. He even gave her a card that said if she went into labour early she should be given a section ASAP. She didn't like the idea of giving birth

Well, I think you need a good reason (might be different in Scotland, assuming that's where your friend is too?) ie breech baby etc. I've read the nice guidelines about it and it does say that if mother requests elcs she should be referred to psychiatry or other MH dept for counselling first, then if she still insists then a cs can be offered. I suppose crying at the dr could work, but I think I would go mad with the uncertainty of it all, so I'd rather get into a place where I can face giving birth naturally again before ttc, and hope that that's some time before the menopause within the window that we'd said we wanted to go for dc2

It was a friend in London. I don't think she got referred, just sobbed and sobbed and sobbed. Then when he sorted out the consultant for her she sobbed some more for the 'she must be given elcs' card to carry. I will ask next time I see her for more details. She can't even talk about natural birth without going white, but is more than comfortable talking about her very positive experience.

As an outsider, one negative appeared to be that she was very cut off from everyone while she healed. She lived in a first floor flat and couldn't leave the house unless her hubby was home or someone travelled over to get help her

You are obviously missing the hormone that makes you forget. Seriously though, I think there is a link on here somewhere for post birth counselling and it is really meant to help.

aw, what did it say?
i wanna know!!

Just selling baby items, I reported it

How are you Nickel?

I'm on holiday for a few days. Ds is with dh's parents. Missing him so much I'm still waking up at his usual times during the night

ooh.
i'm alright thanks - trying to have a lazy day after my Gruffalo visit on saturday.
DD is being a pita - won't put me down and won't stop scratching - literally as soon as i give he her hands back, up they go to the neck!

Well, I survived my first proper day at work - a whole day too (usually will be doing 1/2 days). Though I'm not sure it really really counts as dd was at home with DH. Tomorrow she goes to the childminder so is more of a real start. But she loved it there last week so I'm not worried about her. I am worried about whether my classroom will ever be ready for the kids starting on Wednesday!

Wow to the holiday cc. Of course you miss DS, but could you have imagined being able to leave him just a few weeks ago when he coslept and bf all through the night? (not that there's anything wrong with either of those things of course!) you've both done really well to get to a point where you can enjoy a little time apart knowing there'll be lots of cuddles on your return.have a wonderulf time!

nah, it only counts when she's with someone else!

Esk, we have come a really long way! he has transitioned to the bottle and settling for dh with no problems. He likes to be rocked to sleep and then his back patted when put down. We have a couple of night awakenings where I do this or feed him if he needs it. Otherwise he is sleeping fine in cot. Think he was ready for it as there has been no tears or difficulties.

How have things gone for you? I have to say I was really nervous the first time I left ds with dh for a length of time. It's horrible knowing that you might come back to a shattered baby.

I need to post in the feeding section. Not sure how and when to transition to whole milk and a cup instead of formula? Or should I continue with formula/ start toddler milk. I know some people think cows milk is bad for you and it should be avoided.

Also had an appointment through for his mmr. I know it's hotly debated on here, but I haven't done any research. I don't believe in herd immunity. However, not sure what the risks are if any. Is there any benefit to paying to have them done separate? Do you think I will get flamed for asking?

How is everyone doing? My days are being spent letting ds walk 6 steps to me from the couch or walking around with him holding my finger.

DD will be with DH for the evening on Thursday. I know that doesn't count as someone else, but she likes to cluster-feed in the evenings.

And I can guarantee she won't moan or whinge or bag for milk all evening because I'm not there. (bloody annoying sometimes, being the milk machine )

No reason why you should go onto cow's milk if he still gets something from the formula. You can give it to him in a sippy cup or normal cup.
cow's milk isn't bad for him, it's just that it's just a drink not a foodstuff like formula is, and you'd have to add different nutrients to the solid food if you were to give up formula.

anyway,
DD has another 2 teeth

the two bottom ones next to the middle bottom ones.
I thought teeth were supposed to grow one-by-one, but she doesn't care about that - two at a time (apart form the top 4 which were 4-at-a-time)

there aren't any worry-able risks with MMR.

It's something that was blown out of proportion by people believing and following "advice" based on erroneous and false research.

With the MMR, you get one jab instead of 3 - that means you only have to worry your baby once.
You can't get them separately on the NHS unless your baby has other health problems (which I don't know what they are, but they would tell you if you ask)
also, they have to space them out if you only have one at a time, which means that you're placing your baby at risk for longer.

the nhs's official info

Thank you Nickel. I didn't know any little ones around the time of the mmr scare, just knew there had been one and wasn't sure of the outcome. Dh has been doing some reading this morning and it looks more risky to do them separately.

Ds does teeth two by two as well. Working on top two front teeth at the moment.

It's really hard to get info on formula and cows milk. Especially as on mumsnet they are classed as the same.

formula is based on cow's milk, i suppose, but with added extras.

if he stills enjoys it, then it's fine to carry on. (like taking vitamin supplements)

Some people are sensitive to cows milk. I drink goats milk as I am. But then I'm also lactose intolerant (meaning I'm normal) so I have a very limited amount of dairy in my diet anyway. Follow on formula is a con to make parents feel bad and spend more money. Children should not be getting their main source of iron from milk, it should be coming from the rest of their diet. However if you keep using standard formula at this point it's not really an issue. The main thing is to drop the bottle and encourage all drinks out of a cup.

Of course at the end of the day you have to do what work best for you and you child.

Things are ticking along here. I was hoping to have a snooze at the same time as DD as she has kindly waited until DS was at nursery before passing out, but of course I forgot I had booked in the grocery delivery, didn't I.

Oh and look at that the Sainsburys van has just pulled up!

Sorry my point about the cows milk is that it is bad for some people, but not most people.

Thanks for the advice fvp. Ds had his immunisations. Think they were pretty sore, but he was fine afterwards.

Anyone doing anything exciting today? I'm bored in the house and need some inspiration (something cheap to do). My little cherub has been awake since 4am (teething) and my dh is away for a few days. Need to get out of the house and have as much caffeine as possible [smilel

P.s. my online deliveries always arrive just as ds has fallen asleep, no matter what time I book them for. They are sleep deprivers!

thank god she's a noisy eater!

she's just managed to give me the fright of her life.
she's on my lap eating an apple, must have taken a hard bit, and suddenly she's not making an eating noise, but a half-strangled trying to cough noise.

I immediately grabbed her, threw her upside down and whacked her back three times. then she started coughing!

It amazes me how calm I was actually - i can feel my pulse racing!
I'm a firm believer that everybody should have basic first aid training :)