September 2011 babies, making more noise, more mess, but growing more amazing by the day.

[100years]

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Hey, here we are again, moving on to the next round of exciting things our little babies are getting up to. :) I hope no-one minded my title, but there hadn't been a big decision and given we were so close to the end I thought I'd just go for it.

I shall update stuff from me tomorrow.

[ssmile]

I found out by accident that she wasn't waking when really hungry when I had horrid tum bug. She woke me up, I got up on auto pilot to feed her but had to drop her on bed run to throw up, came back to get her and she was fast asleep 2mins later. That was about a month ago and made me think ooh is she Really hungry? so I gave it a try and was really surprised she easily dropped a feed. But she is a mostly chilled out baby, SO unlike her big sis!

However tonight poor mite is very unsettled, very restless but keeps coughing poor mite :(

[sebs71]

Ssmile - hope LO is better and you get something from the GP. Poor little babyssmile...

And TP - well done on house move front! Sounds really exciting, hope the whole selling/buying process goes well! And, BabyTP sounds JUST like BabySebs!! She's not crawling - but does move round in circles a lot! And, just about moves backwards a bit (so when I leave her on the playmat, and turn back a few mins later, she is always in a different position now!). She's also physically advanced - in that she's about 19.5lb too!! But, WOW to Baby100 - I can get LO to High 5 and then put her hands together (mirroring me) but I'm going to work on the clapping now!!!

Jeans - well done on the job front!!

Went swimming in a baby group for the first time yesterday (have been before, but only on holiday!) and LO LOVED it!! Seems to have natural buoyancy and she just floated really well, and kicked legs lots! Going to try and go every Wednesday mornings. And, went to "Sing and Sign" today too - where you and baby learn "signing" - I've seen this with another friend and her daughter, and it's great - they can learn to communicate much quicker than having to wait to learn to talk! Just basic words, like Mum, Dad, food, milk, no etc etc but hoping LO picks it up.

Getting excited now - Hen weekend starts Saturday morning...!! Well, excited and apprehensive...!! YIKES!!!

[sarahseager]

Hi all,

Just popping on to say I am still reading but finding it hard to post now that I'm back at work.

So exciting to hear about all the clever babies standing and crawling and clapping! Babyseager is very much trying to crawl she's pushing up on her feet and knees and rocking back and forth a lot, it's very exciting! At the moment she can only go round in a circle and a little bit backwards so mainly uses rolling around to get where she wants to be!

Hope all the poorly babies and mummies feel better very soon, lo had a terrible teething week and was totally congested with it too, they seem to have calmed a bit now they're through but not totally convinced this is it for the time being. I'm expecting chicken pox to arrive some time soon as it seems to be everywhere at the moment and loads of children at lo's nursery have been off with it.

Our most exciting thing at the moment is that we are hopefully almost off the reflux medicine, we have gradually withdrawn two doses over the last week with just the bedtime one to drop on Saturday, she seems ok so far so fingers crossed that will be it for the medicine!!

[sarahseager]

Ah didn't mean to post yet!

TP great news on the house front, sounds very idyllic and super exciting! Hope it's not too stressful getting it all sorted.

Yay for hen do sebs! You sound very excited and very organised for the big day! I hope you have a fabulous weekend, can't wait to hear all about it.

With regard to the dropping bf, I agree that babe seems to let you know when they're ready. My lo was just going on for comfort and feeding for a bit then going right off to sleep, when I tried a cuddle without the bf she was still perfectly happy so I guessed she was ready and she has gradually got better with her sleeping since - apart from when illness and teeth came along

Its so funny how all of these little babies are wired so differently, I think I have a very active little adrenaline junkie! Am trying to think of days out and lots of ways to spend her energy when she is toddling around, will be good exercise for me too!

Have good nights all xx

[valkilly]

Hi all. Hope you dont mind me posting but my DSis isn't on MN (shame on her, I know) but I wanted to get some help for her.

Her LO is still up regularly at night to feed, despite taking 3 meals and some snacks during the day. She's BF during the day too. My LO is a few months older but slept from 11pm-7am at 7 wks and from 7-7 at 6 months. My DS before was similar (although only started sleeping through at 12 wks). The only difference being my two were mostly FF.

I can see how tired she is and have tried to say she should try cutting down on night feeds as by 7 months, her DS should be well able to sleep through and if he does wake, she shouldn't assume he's hungry. However having l

[valkilly]

*looked on here for more guidance, I see maybe I am wrong!

So just wondering if I am misleading her because BF babies should continue to feed during night and in fact it's me who's wrong?

By the way, I am not looking to debate the merits of FF vs BF, I am genuinely trying to understand if there's a fundamental difference in how sleep patterns develop!

[valkilly]

Sorry should have said my nephew was born Sept 11 which is why I am posting here for advice. In your experiences is what she's going through normal for his age and the fact he's being breast-fed?

Sorry for the multiple posts - stupid iPhone acting up again!

Thanks if you've read and understood my ramblings :)

[ssmile]

Hi valkilly all babies are wired differently and sleeping through is a skill like any other that they all get the hang off when they are ready whether BF or FF. My two DDs are chalk v cheese, the eldest was 4.5yrs before she slept through with any consistency, but my youngest 8.5mths has slept 6-7hrs stretches from a much much younger age. It sounds like you care about your sister, I'd just support her in her decision to feed how she needs to and feel lucky yours were such "easy" sleepers. :)

[valkilly]

Thanks for the reply ssmile. I guess you are right with regards to me being lucky . For the record, I am fully supportive of my DSis and how she is feeding her LO.

I have no intention of telling her to switch from BF to FF. She tends to ask for advice from me, as I had my 2DC first. I suppose I started off looking for "evidence" to back up my theory that at almost 8 months, her LO has no need to be fed at night if he is eating well during the day. Then when I started reading the thread here, I realised the difference may be because she is BF, in which case I would just tell her to keep doing as she is doing.

I guess that's one of the difficulties with BF, as you can't see how much the LO is taking, whereas I know when my LO has had her 3 bottles in the day and finished all of them, that she shouldn't be hungry. Tbh, from when both mine started sleeping through, if they woke at night, I never assumed they were hungry or offered them a bottle, I just went back to sleep waited to see if their cry got more insistent, and then I would check temp/give dummy back/assume they were teething and settle them back. Whereas my DSis will feed my nephew as soon as he stirs.

All I was trying to say to her was to try not doing that, as maybe he isn't really hungry (although he will prob feed if it's offered, IYSWIM).

Now having read this thread, I see others are obviously still doing as my DSis is doing, so I'll just accept that I am lucky and hope my nephew grows out of his night-time feeds soon.

[sarahseager]

Hi Valkilly,

I stopped feeding in the night a couple of months back as I was wondering if my DD needed it anymore and luckily she was quite happy to drop that feed. It's definitely worth a try to see if babe will settle with just a cuddle instead, it's all trial and error I guess like everything!

My lo's sleeping seems to gradually be improving and becoming more consistent but I think this is more to do with her age and learning to self settle than the feeding, like ssmile said its like she has learnt the skill now...at last! That said there is alway something to disrupt it, like teeth!

Hope things gets easier for your sister, does she have her lo in bed with her as I always found that helped us to all get some rest.

[100years]

Hi Valkilly. I really really think it depends on the baby, some just get it sooner than others. My LO is baby led weaning so I have no proper idea of exactly how much she's eating, but I don't think I'd class it as 3 proper meals, esp when there are days when she only gets offered food twice, but she sleeps through some meal times and other times just seems wholly disinterested in proper food, so I leave it. I have on occasions tried to settle without feeding, I do manage it if the last feed has only been an hour or maybe 2 ago, but any longer than that in the night and she just roots for food or shows she's hungry by whingeing etc. I think it's lovely you are wondering if you have given the right advice, I must admit I do get quite self defensive when I'm personally told "you should be doing this" I really really feel they are all so different and I'll try things, but I don't like to be told she should be sleeping through by now, she isn't, and I do hope believe she will do it in her own time.

Well that tooth is closer to the surface, but still not through fully, but she was more settled in the night last night :), in fact I had to rouse (sp?) her this morning to go to the hairdressers. She's currently trying to get everything she isn't allowed, and has physically dragged/pushed a crate full of toys out of the way of something to get at it! She's certainly in very high spirits. She was also very good at the hairdressers, I was there for 3.5 hours, she had about a 10 min whinge, a 30 min sleep and about 20 mins playing on the floor, the rest of the time she was in her pushchair watching the action and playing with her toys in her pushchair.

I now have what I would call copper blonde hair with highlights, not bad considering it was very very red when I went in. :) but I'm never to go near a red dye again, unless my hair is short, and given I want to grow it I don't see that happening.

Thanks for the wows about LO. I worked very hard teaching her that, and she seems pleased with herself about it too.

Sarah, lovely to see you in here, glad LO is nearly over her reflux, the valve gets stronger as they get a bit older, so it's a good sign :)

Sebs, have a fab hen weekend :) and swimming with LO is fabby.

[jimmijam]

arghhh so much to catch up on, so will just reply to a few, sorry

jeans how did u give it up?!?!?!??! im back at work so was hoping bf would end, but i've ended up feeding more often again instead!!!

tp a HUGE congrats on your new house!!! hope everything goes through smoothly :)

valkilly a good hv (though rare) should be able to help. my lo refuses formula unfortunately, so still bf here. but gave up at night from advice of our hv. lo has an evening feed at the same time every day (apart from when im at work, then he just goes without), goes down in a cot in his own room and generally sleeps through until morning. until i just stopped offering night feeds he was sleeping in our bed feeding so many times in the night i couldnt even count! our eldest 2 lo's had both breast and formula and slept through from not long after they went in their own rooms at 6-7months. until they slept thru they just woke around once a night, we'd give them a bottle to hold themselves (slapped wrist for us) and that was it.every babay is different though


work's ok thankyou. as long as I dont look at the clock it hasnt gone too slowly so far. the test will be my first 5.30am shifts sun and mon without any other managers about to help me for a few hours, stress!!

[100years]

Aw, jimmi. Maybe LO is just getting used to you being at work and doing that reverse feeding thing, where they don't have as much while you are out and then feast when you get back. Hopefully it will settle down soon for you both. I dread when I go back having to get up in the morning for the course I have to do. :(

[feralgirl]

Wow! Everyone came back! Hello all.

Congrats TP and jeans on the house and jobs, that's brilliant.

Hope all you other people who are back at work are OK? Jimmi does your DS just jump on you the minute you walk in through the door? DD howls if I do anything other than pick her up and feed her when I come home. She is like a limpet!

And loving the clapping babies, that's brilliant! I remember trying to get DS to clap for ages and he just didn't until he was about a year old. DD hasn't clapped yet but DH, DS and my parents got her involved in a Mexican wave at a meal time last week They have regaled me with this story a couple of times; of course I missed it because I was at work!

Valkilly I would second what everyone else has said; all babies are different ime. DS was a rubbish sleeper and nearly killed me, but I went cold turkey on the night BFing when he was 9mo and it wasn't too bad. DH had to do a bit of controlled grizzling with him but it never became full blown CC iyswim. DD was brilliant when she was teeny, then she got really rubbish at 3mo, now she's back to being pretty good again and only wakes once. She's not ready to pack in her one feed of the night (at 3am-ish) as she does actually fully wake up and have a proper 15 min feed. She eats like a horse (BLWing) during the day and is FF while I'm at work so I expect she'll be ready to sleep through fairly soon. Hope your DSis gets some rest soon; tell her to get herself on MN and come and join us over here!

Must go to bed now as we're all up early to go and watch the Olympic torch in the morning. It's going quite close to my house and is being carried by a student at my school! There are police cars everywhere and so much entourage traffic around - all the sponsorship vehicles etc. - so it's really exciting and I just feel like it's a real once in a lifetime experience for DS.

[valkilly]

Thanks for all the replies ladies . You've certainly given me food for thought and some more perspectives for my DSis.

Good luck with your LOs.

[100years]

Feral, did you manage to see the torch? A friend of mine went with his kids and the torch went passed on a bus I think, which obviously wasn't what was hoped for. :(

[feralgirl]

Yeah, we were just inches away from the torch! DH got some great photos. We were in entirely the wrong place to see the girl from my school and it went past very quickly but, hey, at least I can say I was there!

[ssmile]

Crap week :( fed up with poorly vvgrissley baby again fed up crap sleep :( :(

[sarahseager]

Hugs to you ssmile. We're all poorly here too with colds and snot bubbles aplenty! Can't seem to shake horrible head cold but think it's because of the broken sleep.

Hope you have a nice chilled sunday. Weather is supposed to warm up next week so hopefully that will give is all a lift

[candr]

Feral, glad you got to see torch if only briefly.
Ssmile and Sarah, hope babes sleep better tonight for you.
DS is teething (4 at once) so has ended up in our bed last 3 nights as I was dead on my feet. He has become such a wriggler in our bed but at least we both got 'some' sleep.
Valkilly, hi, my DS sounds a bit like your sis LO. Have also been trying to work out whether to drop night feed but he does guxxle it so feel he is not ready. Just wish he would only wake for feed not every hour for nothing.
Yeah to warm weather next week

[feralgirl]

Grrrr teeth! DD is v unsettled and keeps half waking and shouting then going back to sleep. Her top teeth are bulging through and look horrible but are really taking their time.

Had 8month check today; HV was impressed with DD's mobility but she said that her weight's gone down 2 percentiles which isn't ideal. She also said that she really shouldn't need a feed at night and is probably just waking for comfort. I'm going to stick to my original plan and wait until half term before giving it a go with stopping but I'm really not looking forward to it

for poorly babyssmile and babyeager. Hope you're all better soon.

[ssmile]

sarah hope you all feel better soon and you surviving work ok.
candr hope the pesky teeth appear and sleep improves.
feralgirl glad the HV check up went ok, hope your sleep improves too.

Had really crappy few days with baby, she has had this virus for 8days now, but definitely feeling a lot better today, as has been up 3hrs last night. Still wide awake at 6am and crawling around at speed forwards now, I keep calling her our little rugrat :) she still has snot bubbles& cough. Now eldest is also got the high temperature, off food got called to collect her from school yesterday, she was up 12-3am so not a lot of sleep in our house last night :( I've already eaten a crunchie bar in my sleep zoombie state oh dear....but healthy eating has generally been going well I've lost 30lbs now :) another 10lbs to go to hit my target.

Hope the sunshine and warmer days brings sleep dust to all :)

[sebs71]

Wow, lots to catch up on... Ssmile - hope DC feel better soon, but WOW to your weight loss, that's brilliant. Well done.
Hope all poorly sick feel better soon, and pesky teeth start showing up and stop hurting our poor babes.
Feral - I'd say a drop of 2 percentiles in weight is very little and not worth worrying... I'm not expert of course, but 2 pc doesn't sound a lot. And YAY to seeing the torch!!!

100 - my DSD has also managed to teach LO to clap!!! Although I left LO with DH2B this weekend with instructions to teach her, so maybe his input also helped... so cute - she now claps, High 5s and plays peekaboo with a muslin (saves me having to do peekaboo!!)

Well, Hen Weekend was ACE!!! So weird to be away from LO for 2 nights (I left about 8ish, so after putting her to bed). But, really enjoyed it and lovely to be with friends and chilled for the weekend. although started drinking champagne and buck's fizz on the train journey down on Saturday morning, so after a gorgeous lunch (with wine) we had the Vinopolis tour - more wine tasting - and I started to hit a real slump, and felt rotten. But, after fresh air and a full fat coke, perked up! Had cocktails, chinese and a boogie in a clubby pub in Soho in the evening, and the funniest part was the ride back to the hotel - in a rickshaw!! Couldn't get a cab for love nor money, so rickshaw it was... scary!! My friend kept shouting "if that bus pulls out in front of us, that's 8 kids without mums..." but we made it back in one piece!!

Enjoying this gorgeous weather... long may it last (and definitely until and including 8th June PLEASE!!!!)

[feralgirl]

Oh Sebs your hen do sounds fab, am v as I had a joint hen/ stag with DH (it was our hag-do ) as we were skint and couldn't afford to go anywhere other than our teeny hometown with its limited range of pubs and clubs!

Good effort on the crawling babyssmile, and glad you're feeling better. More sleep for Mummyssmile tonight though please!

My friend in Oz had twin girls today. I got a real pang when I looked at her FB pics!

[100years]

Feral, glad you got to see the torch. I'm debating going whe it's in Birmingham, but it yet decided for definite. What is the hv on, saying she's gone down centiles and the saying stop feeding at night? I know my LO still needs the night feed(s) but who knows, cutting out the night ones might not make a difference to her weight.

Hugs Sarah :(

Hugs ssmile, great news about the crawling there, not so great about the unwell children.

Candr, hope those teeth come through soon. 4 cannot be nice at all.

Sebs, glad you had a good hen weekend :) and yay for more clapping babies :)

Well I'm at the (future) in laws and OH is not here! I've come up because it was my confirmation rehearsal this evening, but it would have meant OH finishing work too early to be able to come too. Rehearsal went well, I'm the only adult being confirmed! There are lots of 10-11 year olds though. I felt really tall stood against them all!

LO's teeth aren't through yet. Hoping it's not long though, although she's done that clamping down thing good and proper 4 times now since Friday.

And my shoulder hurts. I had an injury to it before - very very traumatic dislocation, out of joint for 4 hours, 2 ops on it, and still not right - anyway, occasionally it plays up, and feel like its going to dislocate, and it's been playing up the passed 2 days :( hurt when I lifted LO up.